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Remove Points from Terminology Index #1239

Closed shervine closed 6 years ago

shervine commented 6 years ago

@grumo Based on my Game Design Research, I learned that:

This last point really struck me! Instead of trying to become more like other games, I think we have to fully embrace the difficulty of execution and accomplishing ones goals, and building our "gamified" model around our tough Bootcamp positioning, not some silly game.

Really encourage you to checkout this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78rPt0RsosQ

I also realized points have no connection to anything else (they don't even account for your completion prize), so I am thinking its best to reposition the leaderboard as follow:

@grumo Would love to hear your thoughts

grumo commented 6 years ago

@shervine the beauty of having a made up unit to store rewards is that it gives you a lot of flexibility as to what value assign to it. Points work well for gamification because of that reason. The statement "You've Completed 15 Hours so far" won't be accurate in most cases as some students will accomplish tasks faster than others. However, "You've earned 600 points so far worth of work" would apply to everyone. The next thing for points to make sense is to assign them some kind of value. This could be done by the instructor or by Mench. The instructor could say; anyone that gets more than 75% of the total available points will be eligible for a 60 min free consultation.

grumo commented 6 years ago

@shervine I just watched the Youtube video your suggested. To me this stuck: "Trying to make things FUN by gamifiying them is like covering with sugar to avoid facing the real job" -> If you cover the truth then you're telling a lie.

I'm not sure if completing tasks has enough intrinsic reward except for those that are naturally self-driven and derive pleasure from accomplishing things.

Instead of points we could recognize their work so far with messages like:

shervine commented 6 years ago

@grumo Love your last message, and agree with the point that you made on your 1st message which is having direct hours would not be applicable equally as different people have different speeds. I think you second solution is even better than mine, and we can keep the percentage completion as the primary unit for everyone to see. We don't really need both points and the percentage! So I think it would work great if we keep percentage and add the messages that you suggested in the automated messages so we can get students through the finishing line 🙌​

grumo commented 6 years ago

Yeah!

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@grumo https://github.com/grumo Love your last message, and agree with the point that you made on your 1st message which is having direct hours would not be applicable equally as different people have different speeds. I think you second solution is even better than mine, and we can keep the percentage completion as the primary unit for everyone to see. We don't really need both points and the percentage! So I think it would work great if we keep percentage and add the messages that you suggested in the automated messages so we can get students through the finishing line 🙌​

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shervine commented 6 years ago

Remainder moved to #1295