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mendicant-original / puzzlenode

Quiz application inspired by Project Euler and the Internet Problem Solving Contest (IPSC)
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show puzzle name in title tag #21

Closed burningTyger closed 13 years ago

burningTyger commented 13 years ago

hm, postgres et al just to set a title tag seems a bit like okverkill, so I'm opening an issue instead. Maybe someone can fix this? Thank you

jordanbyron commented 13 years ago

@burningTyger I'm not sure I understand what you mean by:

hm, postgres et al just to set a title tag seems a bit like okverkill

Are you saying that getting the project setup locally to add the feature is overkill or that using postgres to set the title tag is overkill?

burningTyger commented 13 years ago

:) setting up the project locally.

jordanbyron commented 13 years ago

@burningTyger I thought that is what you meant ;)

Would you be interested in trying to setup the project with my help? I think the README does a good job of explaining what needs to be done. However it would be really helpful if you could point out anything that isn't clear or sounds hard to do (IE installing postgres) so that I clean up the language and add resources to help.

Don't get too discouraged about the Postgres install. There are plenty of easy ways to get it installed and working with the pg gem. Let me know what OS you are running and I will get you some more information about installing postgres.

burningTyger commented 13 years ago

@jordanbyron There is no problem in setting up the project. I can do that just fine. I'm just trying to avoid Rails. I'm probably the only person who loves Ruby but not Rails. Does that suffice for an excuse? I'd much rather solve another puzzlenode instead :)

jordanbyron commented 13 years ago

@burningTyger you are certainly not the only person who loves Ruby and not Rails. And there are plenty of developers out there who hack on Rails every day not because they want to, but because that is what they get paid to.

So does that suffice for an excuse? Not really. From my perspective, you are coming across like this:

I really want this feature, but I don't want to do it myself. So can someone else do the work so I can keep playing?

I'm not trying to be a mean, but it makes me sad when capable people want something and then expect others to do it for them. I understand installing and hacking on a rails project isn't the most exciting thing to do, but that isn't the point is it? The real payoff is seeing the work you've done impact people in a positive way. That's what really counts.

I've added this feature into our Pivotal Tracker. Hopefully in the future when I have more time, or someone else comes along and wants to help out, this feature will get done.

burningTyger commented 13 years ago

@jordanbyron I apologize if I came across like that. I certainly don't think like that. It's just that I have absolutely no clue where to look for the title tag in a rails app. I see myself as part of an eco system that is not always directly linked. I contribute to rbx, sinatra and other projects and other people to their projects and in the end we all create our oss system that we can all profit from. Call it functional differentiation.

Does that sound better?

practicingruby commented 13 years ago

@jordanbyron: We should accept feature requests. If a user can't (or won't) contribute a patch, but their request is reasonable and something that'd be nice to have, we can throw it on the list (as you have), and get to it when we have time. Someone else might come along and take a stab at at, so there's no harm recording it at least.

practicingruby commented 13 years ago

@burningTyger: I think the thing @jordanbyron was frustrated about was that your request seemed a bit whiny when you complained about the setup. If you said something like "I probably won't get around to implementing this myself, but it'd sure be nice to have it if anyone is interested in working on it", I think this whole conversation could have been avoided.

jordanbyron commented 13 years ago

@burningTyger I understand where you are coming from. I just wish you said that in your first message.

We've tried to make Puzzlenode and all of the Mendicant University core projects as easy to contribute to as possible. Along those lines, I'm willing to spend the extra time with you and anyone else looking to contribute to our projects. So if this is something you want to try learning just let me know and we'll setup a time to meet over irc or skype. If not I totally understand and with any luck your proposed feature will get done sooner than later.

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:38 AM, burningTyger reply@reply.github.com wrote:

@jordanbyron I apologize if I came across like that. I certainly don't think like that. It's just that I have absolutely no clue where to look for the title tag in a rails app. I see myself as part of an eco system that is not always directly linked. I contribute to rbx, sinatra and other projects and other people to their projects and in the end we all create our oss system that we can all profit from. Call it functional differentiation.

Does that sound better?

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rmu/puzzlenode/issues/21#issuecomment-1632547

jordanbyron commented 13 years ago

@sandal my thought process went through several stages:

  1. Is Puzzlenode hard to contribute to? If so how can I fix that?
  2. It's frustrating when capable users want a feature but decide not to work on them simply because they don't want to.

The tone didn't get to me as much as I might have let on. But hidden motivations did bother me and confused the issue.

Of course we accept and love feature requests. I'm going to update our README to do a better job of explaining how best to do that.

On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:05 PM, sandalreply@reply.github.com wrote:

@burningTyger: I think the thing @jordanbyron was frustrated about was that your request seemed a bit whiny when you complained about the setup. If you said something like "I probably won't get around to implementing this myself, but it'd sure be nice to have it if anyone is interested in working on it", I think this whole conversation could have been avoided.

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/rmu/puzzlenode/issues/21#issuecomment-1632768

burningTyger commented 13 years ago

ok, here we go @jordanbyron: let me test and see how easy/difficult it is to contribute to puzzlenode so I can give some feedback Will you help me with Rails? I think during the next week I can give it a try and see how it works. I guess it won't hurt to at least try Rails once since I've already contributed to Rails (http://contributors.rubyonrails.org/contributors/burningtyger/commits) :D I'll let you know when I have my setup ready, ok?

jordanbyron commented 13 years ago

Will you help me with Rails?

Absolutely. Just let me know when you are up and running and we can setup a time to meet on IRC to get this feature done. Thanks!