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README should not advice pacaur but yaourt #566

Closed pyluyten closed 5 years ago

pyluyten commented 6 years ago

For Arch users : the README says to run pacaur. But according to this arch wiki page, this is problematic : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers

So README could instead say to run yaourt -S rtv or just point to repology.

michael-lazar commented 6 years ago

Do you have any comments on https://github.com/michael-lazar/rtv/issues/482? I don't pay much attention to package managers, but it seems like yaourt has its own set of problems as well. Personally I don't think it makes much of a difference either way. I assume that most arch users are aware that they can use their preferred package manager to access AUR packages.

pyluyten commented 6 years ago

ouch sorry. So, i would just point to the AUR package without precising any instruction (after all the AUR wiki page does not tell to use any helper), but you are more qualified to decide.

michael-lazar commented 6 years ago

I'll keep it as pacaur for now, and leave the issue open so others can weigh in.

jathanasiou commented 6 years ago

Both pacaur and yaourt have issues as of now. The completely secure options are (in the order listed in arch wiki):

Out of these aurman, trizen and bauerbill can also be used as full pacman replacements while the former also fetches PGP keys automatically based on the table there. Personally, I've been using pakku as it pulls AUR comments as well, but its build syntax can be a bit cumbersome compared to yaourt/pacaur.

Manjaro has also developed the graphical pamac.

meskarune commented 6 years ago

Don't recommend an AUR client at all. The proper way to install AUR packages is:

git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/rtv.git
cd rtv
makepkg -i
cpebble commented 5 years ago

Adding on to this. Don't get dragged down in managers and politics, just point to rtv aur package

pabloariasal commented 5 years ago

It is the norm to just provide a link to the package in the AUR, every single Arch user will know how to proceed. As @mrcpj1998 suggests, AUR installation instructions are pointless specially if they include unmaintained tools.

RakNoel commented 5 years ago

Adding this: https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/7k5suz/pacaur_now_unmaintained/

It might be time to change that, as it might be misleading for new arch-users.

Whatever you do recommend is probably not all that important. Id say either do a) "yay rtv-git" becuase "yay" sounds fun and worked for me, b) simply give a link to the arch-wiki about AUR-helpers, or c) so like @meskarune and just make them build it. :package:

Id go with yay :1st_place_medal:

Almamu commented 5 years ago

I'd do the same as @pabloariasal and @mrcpj1998 said, give a link to the aur package. I would add a link to the aur documentation on archlinux just in case, but nothing more.

michael-lazar commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the feedback everyone. @Crestwave pointed out that RTV was recently moved out of the AUR and into community. Given that, I think this discussion is now moot because I don't think anyone can argue against the legitimacy of using pacman.