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A cross platform (Linux and Windows) user mode SDK to read data from your Azure Kinect device.
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Any PCIe USB expansion cards with powered USB C and dedicated controllers per port #1401

Closed MaxPalmer-UH closed 3 years ago

MaxPalmer-UH commented 3 years ago

You can find PCIe USB 3 cards that have one dedicated controller per point, but these all have a USB A connector. Are there any that have a powered UCB C connector with one controller per port?

qm13 commented 3 years ago

Are you asking for PCIe cards that support USB 3.1 Gen 1 power delivery?

MaxPalmer-UH commented 3 years ago

Yes, I guess. My understanding is that USB C ports are able to deliver power and data to the Kinect, but that these ports need to meet the power requirements (which presumably most don't). The advantage of that is that you only need one cable from the host to the Kinect. However, I haven't seen expansion cards (with dedicated controllers) with multiple powered USB C ports on them. They are usually a mix with mainly USB A that can't deliver the power. I presume there aren't USB A cards that can meet the power requirements and you have to provide power separately?

tim-depthkit commented 3 years ago

I have not tested this card, but it looks promising: https://www.delock.com/produkt/90308/merkmale.html

DrMaxP commented 3 years ago

Thanks, this looks really good.

nick-cr commented 3 years ago

@tim-depthkit did you get this card in the end? Did it work?

tim-depthkit commented 3 years ago

@nick-cr I have not yet, but one of our customers has one is is going to test it. I'll post back here once I hear about the results.

MaxPalmer-UH commented 3 years ago

Looking forward to hearing how this goes Tim

caseyfarina commented 3 years ago

@tim-depthkit Any update on that card? Thanks!

guss2149 commented 3 years ago

I have not tried that one. It's too long of a lead time for us here in the US. But I've tried the Startech https://www.startech.com/en-us/cards-adapters/pexusb312c3 which does not work. I called Startech and he helped me to see what chipset is compatible with the Azure Kinect. From the product page: "For the Azure Kinect DK on Windows, Intel, Texas Instruments (TI), and Renesas are the only host controllers that are supported."

I'm trying to find a card that can handle two Kinect DK cameras plugged in via active USB-C cables 6m long. This is the cable we are trying: https://www.ntcdistributing.com/usb-repeater/active-cable/usb-c-active-cable-for-azure-kinect-with-pd-6m-10m/

Has anyone had any success with any USB-C PCIe cards available fairly quickly in the US? The Delock 8-port says is uses the Renesas chipset which looks promising (though their 2 port uses the ASM3142 just like the Startech :/ ). But for me it doesn't have enough power per port because I am using a long active USB-C cable.

DrMaxP commented 2 years ago

Any updates on this? Anyone found USB-C cards which can supply power and data that work? Ideally 4 ports or above per card with dedicated controllers per port. Needs the correct USB chipset...