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A collection of familiar, friendly, and modern emoji from Microsoft
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windows 10 emoji? #50

Open gfodor opened 2 years ago

gfodor commented 2 years ago

first, thank you for releasing this! for the app I am developing the old MS emoji pack from windows 10 is more suitable, are there any plans to release those emojis as well? thanks!

Lamparter commented 2 years ago

first, thank you for releasing this! for the app I am developing the old MS emoji pack from windows 10 is more suitable, are there any plans to release those emojis as well? thanks!

I don't think that's Microsoft's plan. Windows 10 emoji are not compliant with the Fluent design system (or at least not the latest version) and I don't think they will. @gfodor you can use https://emojipedia.org to find emoji and then scroll down, click on 'Microsoft' and then use the latest version of the 'Windows 10' image provided in the dropdown. If you'd like to view all the Windows 10 emoji, you can via https://emojipedia.org/microsoft/windows-10-may-2019-update/.

jasoncuster commented 2 years ago

Glad you're digging them! Currently we have no plans to release the Win10 emoji publicly.

peter-power-594 commented 1 year ago

To bump and follow with the question of @gfodor, I'm also interested to know at least the license or way of using emoticons from Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / MSN / etc.... before the Fluent Design was created, outside the use of Microsoft app. Lots of copyrights already exists for the fonts as an example, it's kind of "blurry" for the emoticons. I guess it's more about redistribution rules ?

I've tried to post on Microsoft forums as well : https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_licensing/emoticons-emojis-licenses/d3aa2de6-4e06-436b-929c-cabfdbf1a9cc but nobody seems to know exactly. Any clue @jasoncuster please ? Or could you forward to a Microsoft's official close to you that could help us pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ? m( )m Or tell me a more appropriate place where I could reach someone to figure this out ?

Appreciate any help / hint :+1: Thank you very much in advance for your time

Lamparter commented 1 year ago

To bump and follow with the question of @gfodor, I'm also interested to know at least the license or way of using emoticons from Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / MSN / etc.... before the Fluent Design was created, outside the use of Microsoft app. Lots of copyrights already exists for the fonts as an example, it's kind of "blurry" for the emoticons. I guess it's more about redistribution rules ?

I've tried to post on Microsoft forums as well : answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_licensing/emoticons-emojis-licenses/d3aa2de6-4e06-436b-929c-cabfdbf1a9cc but nobody seems to know exactly. Any clue @jasoncuster please ? Or could you forward to a Microsoft's official close to you that could help us pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ? m( )m Or tell me a more appropriate place where I could reach someone to figure this out ?

Appreciate any help / hint 👍 Thank you very much in advance for your time

@peter-power-594 TL;DR I'm assuming not. Microsoft have done their best to open-source the new fluent-emoji but if you can't find a repo for the Emoji from early versions of FluentUI/WinUI which contains a non-restricting license, which of course we know there is none, then nobody can legally use those icons. Even though they are no longer used, the copyright for them remains.

inferno986return commented 1 year ago

I'd love to use the old Windows 10 emoji with their distinctive thick black outlines for a project.

Any effort to open-source them for legacy usage would be appreciated!

Edit: I'll add this issue as it's relevant to showing demand for the legacy set. The requestor wants a way of switching between Emoji sets like you can on the Unigram Telegram client: https://github.com/microsoft/fluentui-emoji/issues/101

TomArrow commented 1 week ago

Bump, would be great if Win10 emojis could be open sourced or released with a permissive license.

Lamparter commented 1 week ago

This might be a better thing to discuss directly with Microsoft.

douglasg14b commented 1 week ago

The fluent emojis are inaccessible/illegible for those with visual impairments, they don't follow typing designs that ensure legibility. Having legible emojis IMHO should be a requirement that's toggleable in accessibility settings.

Those without visual impairment should put their hands down, this isn't a problem for you. It is a newly created problem for an entire segment of the population, a problem that did not exist with the previous carefully crafted type.

This would be like windows opting to use red text on a blue background by default, which is a nightmare for those with astigmatisms. The same that these emojis are a nightmare for similar reasons.

Lamparter commented 1 week ago

The fluent emojis are inaccessible/illegible for those with visual impairments

Wow, I'd never considered it like that. That's a truly genuine concern.