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maximal update parametrization (µP)
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Positional Embeddings should be MuReadout parameters ? #48

Open codedecde opened 1 year ago

codedecde commented 1 year ago

Duplicate of question asked on the mutransformers repository (link)

Hi ! I was wondering if (learned) positional embeddings should be MuReadout layers, since they map to a finite dimensional space. Specifically

https://github.com/microsoft/mutransformers/blob/480287ce7b18a07a3432e8f2fbc0f0e5b71e2599/mutransformers/models/bert/modeling_bert.py#L174

self.position_embeddings = nn.Embedding(config.max_position_embeddings, config.hidden_size)

In addition to that, did you try using muP for sparse MoE models ? Am curious about any findings for those. Specifically, I was wondering if the routing gate (hdim, num_experts) would also be a MuReadout layer (if we don't scale the number of experts).

Would be grateful for any advice :)

Thank you !

thegregyang commented 1 year ago

Position embedding maps to an infinite dimension (config.hidden_size). Why do you say its finite?

Yes routing gate should be MuReadout.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023, 12:41 AM Barun Patra @.***> wrote:

Duplicate of question asked on the mutransformers repository (link https://github.com/microsoft/mutransformers/issues/3#issue-1733058335)

Hi ! I was wondering if (learned) positional embeddings should be MuReadout layers, since they map to a finite dimensional space. Specifically

https://github.com/microsoft/mutransformers/blob/480287ce7b18a07a3432e8f2fbc0f0e5b71e2599/mutransformers/models/bert/modeling_bert.py#L174

self.position_embeddings = nn.Embedding(config.max_position_embeddings, config.hidden_size)

In addition to that, did you try using muP for sparse MoE models ? Am curious about any findings for those. Specifically, I was wondering if the routing gate (hdim, num_experts) would also be a MuReadout layer (if we don't scale the number of experts).

Would be grateful for any advice :)

Thank you !

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codedecde commented 1 year ago

Thank you ! I meant that the sequence length aspect is finite (similar to vocab size) ?