Closed jschraub closed 7 years ago
This is really what is missing from Visual Studio Code.
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Please use 👍 reaction please. Do not comment +1.
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Completely off-topic, but after being spam with +1 replies, I cannot blame users for this for multiple reasons :
It was good to hear that mini-map function is under developing, which gives me who transferred from sublime text more confidence to stay with vs code.
Is there any reason this wouldn't be implemented as an extension? If that is available - it sounds like a perfect thing for an extension.
extension would be temporary solution not a good solution. Do you really want to install basic features individually via extensions?. First Download VScode, then here is the list of 30 extensions that may not work together at all but will be needed to provide most basic functionalities. (1. copy/paste v3.0, 2. tabs, 3. auto indent, 4. tabstospace, 5. autosave, 6. color highlighter,...... 28. birdeyeview_by_dx3ee_v1.0.1 ...)
Waiting for the implementation of this minimap function to switch from Atom.
@techsin It's not really a basic feature.. it's more of a personal preference. As far as I've seen however, as of now the API does not allow rendering custom elements to such extent, therefore it's not so feasible to even attempt creating such an extension.
@sapiraz I agree with you, it isn't essential for a text editor, but I also think it's one of the reasons why Sublime Text (or Atom) is so popular. It's a 'key' feature that makes people hooked! As an example, lets say every editor has black text and white background, and a new text editor offer the choice to change that to your will. Of course it's not really crucial for the purpose of a text editor, but it enhance the experience so much that people are ready to leave their good editor to this one. And I think that's what's going on here. UX is essential as well ;)
UX is essencial, makes the diference between a good experience and a super annoying feeling that you get when you feel "this is not right" or "I really miss that".
This is not different than having good shortcuts and search. Are these essencial to code? Not really but then again I can code with text editor...
I need to agree to @sapiraz here, could be a nice feature or even an important one for many people, but lets not call it a basic one. So far Sublime is the only editor that has this as default (on Atom is an extension by abe33), and Sublime lacks the extended functionality on the scrollbar that Code provides.
For me speed and stability are by far better features and truly "basic" ones, and if the team is working on implement this the best way possible, I'll give them all the time they need.
@jfcartier, @JonnyBGod Well of course UX is important. I too like the minimap feature in other editors and hope to see it in VSCode soon.. but let's not call it what it isn't - a basic feature.
You can't really compare it with shortcuts, search, copy/paste or even color scheme support because these features are so essential and add such obvious value to the working environment (Yes, even color schemes are important - I suffer from eye strain and sitting 9 hours a day in front of a bright white screen doesn't do any good to my eyes) whereas the minimap simply doesn't provide such important usability that you cannot live without.
If anyone asks you what value the minimap adds, could you come up with a good argument other than "looks nice"? I couldn't. Again, I love the feature, after working with Sublime text & Atom I really liked having it in the side just to have a little perspective of where I am. but is it necessary? nope. You can scroll, you can see the contents of your file, you see some hints on the current scrollbar, why is seeing your code in a small unreadable version any useful to you?
I'm working with VSCode right now on on multiple projects, and chose it due to lack of real basic features other modern editors have.. among them are performance & stability (ehem, Brackets), multilingual support (Sublime), native support of web languages & Intellisense (sorry Atom) or even native, easy to use extension installer ( again, Sublime )
anyone asks you what value the minimap adds, could you come up with a good argument other than "looks nice"?
Yes. It substantially helps navigate a large file. At least that's why I miss it so dearly.
@fredrikaverpil Well "substantially" in my opinion is a bit of an exaggeration, but sure. Still can't really compare it with search or copy/paste..
@fredrikaverpil There are other useful ways to navigate a large file. @sapiraz is right in that this is not a basic feature, and that comparing it to truly basic features (like auto-indent on paste.. come on!) is a bit of a stretch.
That said, I think we can all agree that we really want this to be available one way or another.
This thread has taken an onymous turn, look it's a feature I miss in VSCode at the moment. If it could be implemented in a coming version great if not, it would be a shame but I'll try to cope.
@sapiraz I totally agree with your arguments and wouldn't refute them just to refute, because I think any down to earth person would say the same. But there is a but (and this is my last post here, enough spamming lol)
could you come up with a good argument other than "looks nice"? I couldn't. ... why is seeing your code in a small unreadable version any useful to you?
Lets not say it's not useful, because you don't see it that way. Normally, to tell if something is useful, statistics helps a lot, but I don't have any, so I can only rely on all those people (including myself) who won't use VS only because of this! It isn't nothing. Of course, I think we'd all agree that it's clearly a resistance to change, but we still say it's useful to us and it isn't very scientific to lower the importance of it by a personal judgment.
If i can provide an argument. Here is one : (Precision) Since I know my code, I know that I've changed Db queries by the shape of it. (Speed) With one click, I can get there. No scroll. (UX) If you work in big files, it helps a lot. It gives the feeling to control everything, so you don't have to search.
We will meet this feature at the beginning of March Thank you for your work @all
Once shipped will users be able to disable this completely?
I don't care to have this moving any bit of performance from one place to another just to render another, smaller view.
I'll stick with /
,?
searching because I have everything I need with those.
+1 for the Minimap. Rly w8ing
Seems to already be available in the insiders version, Has to be enabled in the settings though, set "editor.minimap.enabled" to true :)
I tried the minimap in the insiders version, and it's looking great guys!
A couple of suggestions:
PS: Performance is fantastic, kudos to you guys!
Please make sure that highlights are really visible in the minimap (like running a find function) since in Sublime, even though they are highlighted, the highligh is so minimal that you pretty much have to go through the whole file anyway...
Thanks for listening 😄
Being able to scroll up'n'down would be good... (like Sublime) At the moment it seems to be click on it only :-(
Great work tho' - much appreciated !
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Please make sure that highlights are really visible in the minimap (like running a find function) since in Sublime, even though they are highlighted, the highligh is so minimal that you pretty much have to go through the whole file anyway...
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Being able to scroll via clicking/dragging the overlay mask. Same as atom, sublime text, brackets, geany etc
Would it be possible to adjust the magnification level? Sometimes I'd like to make it bigger or smaller font sizes depending on what I am working on.
Thank you for your patience on this feature request.
x2
), and another one where a character is 2x1 (2px high and 1px wide -- abbreviated as x1
).devicePixelRatio
or on the zoom level, we will pick either the x2
or the x1
minimap font. That means on retina devices or on other high pixel ratio devices (e.g. Surface Books) the x2
font will be picked at zoomLevel
0, while on other devices the x2
font will be picked only when using zoomLevel
4 and above.x2
or x1
fontsx2
font at 800% zoom. Can you read what's there:"editor.minimap.enabled": true
on the insiders channel
The character/tokens rendering code is in a good enough shape (perf wise) to ship it: pixels from the previous frame are copied over to the next frame as they are needed, making a minimap render mostly take below 1ms. Under certain conditions (e.g. minified word-wrapped file, jumping to a different vertical position) it can take up to a few tens of ms, but overall, I'm somewhat happy with the char rendering code.
There are many things left to do. To name just a few:
Some are a matter of spending more time, while others are more challenging (e.g. should errors outside the minimap be painted somewhere, can we have the minimap take over the need for an overview ruler, etc.)
We'll track all minimap related issues with the label editor-minimap
and I'd like to close this issue at this point.
Let's continue discussions in specific issues covering different aspects, some of them will make it in February, while we'll tackle some other later on.
@alexandrudima
What about this comment? https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/4865#issuecomment-255368352
I'd prefer it over small unreadable text and it provides the information I need. I'm not sure how difficult it would be but by the sounds of it you could just create a new font where every character is just a solid square, minus whitespace.
@sprinkle131313 I've extracted your comment to a separate issue - #20947.
Let's continue discussions in specific separate issues, please feel free to create new issues if you don't find one existing. I will continue to update my comment above with links so we can all participate in the specific discussions.
Thank you! Willing to see it stable!
Question: is it possible to have the minimap also be a cursor? This is the default behavior in VS, and this is what I see as the main differences between the 2 apps. Also note that I did install the insiders
version to test it out
EDIT Nevermind, just realized there's an open issue #20935 for that
@alexandrudima Thanks for #20947. Is it possible to have "editor.minimap.renderCharacters": false
as the default to render block instead of text? IMO it looks much more pleasing and has better usability.
I'd like to be able to zoom when I'm over the text or block (it depends on the final approach). Currently, I cannot read anything or know in which part of the code I am, this is useful if you're working on a large piece of code. Also, I discovered that if I keep the click and try scrolling or moving over the minimap nothing happens, I need to stop to click and choose another section of the code.
@FANMixco I was thinking about your petition, but I'm currently unsure about why you need such a feature, since if you click on the minimap, the code is scrolled to that point without moving the cursor, so it is effectively the same thing as a hover/zoom. Perhaps hovering is more efficient than clicking?
@druellan , I believe that @FANMixco is talking about a minimap zoom feature that is already in the regular Visual Studio as shown below
EDIT Forgot to mention that the zoom shows up only after staying over the minimap for 2sec. If you go over the minimap and start scrolling, the zoom won't show up, you really need to stop scrolling and wait 2sec to see it.
If @ghiscoding is right about @FANMixco feature, then it definitely should be optional, since I think many people (as I do) don't like popups.
Thanks @ghiscoding, now is more clear. I still kind of believe this is not a huge improvement over the click+slide mechanism, in fact, looks more useful WITHOUT the minimap, on the enhanced scrollbar itself. Kind of a stand-alone feature and not part of the minimap feature.
About @pohmelie suggestion, I totally agree, but I believe this also can be attached to a shortkey modificator, like ctrl+hover on the scrollbar/minimap to trigger the function.
@druellan This is also the same as the https://atom.io/packages/minimap-codeglance extension on Atom. 11,000 downloads seems to suggest lots of people like/need it.
Personally I do not, so if you do implement it, please make it optional. A trigger/hotkey mechanism does sound good though especially if it's implemented on the scrollbar as well as minimap.
Is there a way to toggle it like toggle-sidebar(ctrl-b) toggle-panel(ctrl-j) ?
I like the new minimap. One thing I'm missing is the highlighting of text found with search or find-duplicates. I attached two screenshots to visualize that matter.
Nice feature guys!
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@sixenvi I suggest you to add to a separate feature request #21404 that I asked, since your request is very similar to mine and is an open issue, so at least it's tracked.
I'm not sure that the VSCode team read comments or requests on issues that are closed, like this one here.
Hi @druellan ! Yeah, what @ghiscoding is what I meant, maybe we could configure about the time because it's a bit confuse.
Hi everyone! If VS Code just missed one feature it was this and now it's compelete! Such a nice implementation and great performance. (@alexandrudima as always you fascinate me!)
Just one simple thing that I noticed:
Good find. I think you should file a new bug as this is closed. Vscode team may not see it.
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Hi everyone! If VS Code just missed one feature it was this and no has nothing I could have wished to have! Such a nice implementation and great performance. (As always you fascinate me!)
Just one simple thing that I noticed:
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@nojvek ah didn't notice that! okay one more issue...
One more thing would be great I think - do not hide current position on minimap (currently it is visible only on mouseover). Probably having one more key in settings for this would be best.
@Andrfas this is tracked under #21404 and #21784.
As a suggestion, you guys should stop writing in a closed issue that is not tracked anymore and search/open new issue.
I want scrollbar buttons.
Feature Request
Add the Enhanced Scrollbar feature from VS 2013 and VS 2015 into VS Code. It's an extremely efficient way to move around within a file and would be a great feature to have in VS Code.
If this is already an extension or an option, I could not find it.