mifi / lossless-cut

The swiss army knife of lossless video/audio editing
https://losslesscut.app/
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🇺🇦 Ukraine thread (any other issue created *will be deleted*) #1055

Open littlestone0806 opened 2 years ago

littlestone0806 commented 2 years ago

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yukminnie commented 2 years ago

To be honest I am quite thankful to the author for developing such a good and useful software. When the pop-ups popped up in the software, I tried to email the author first, but his response was also very quick, and the result was obvious. In fact, if there is only one pop-up window to express one's position, I think OK, now it is every time you open it, there is a pop-up window, it seems very moral kidnapping, belong to their political views force-feeding to others. No matter what the position is, I don't think politics should be discussed on github, and, it's not the author's area of expertise. In a world where there is political fake news everywhere, who can guarantee that the information they get is necessarily true?

mifi commented 2 years ago

Hi. Firstly, there is no popup. It's just a slightly dimmed Ukrainian flag showing in the background, and it shows only when a file is not loaded. No dialog pops up at all, no text, just a flag. And it does not intervene with the user interface. If what I'm saying is not true, then that's a bug and I can fix it. If so, please show me screenshots.

Added some more FAQ here: https://mifi.no/ukraine.html

littlestone0806 commented 2 years ago

Hi. Firstly, there is no popup. It's just a slightly dimmed Ukrainian flag showing in the background, and it shows only when a file is not loaded. No dialog pops up at all, no text, just a flag. And it does not intervene with the user interface. If what I'm saying is not true, then that's a bug and I can fix it. If so, please show me screenshots.

Added some more FAQ here: https://mifi.no/ukraine.html

首先,还是感谢作者开发了这个软件,因为剪辑起来非常好用。但是我认为软件开发,不应掺杂任何政治成分,如果作者执意要放置国旗,来表明自己的立场。那我只能很抱歉的告诉作者,可能会失去一部分开发者帮助

yukminnie commented 2 years ago

Hi. Firstly, there is no popup. It's just a slightly dimmed Ukrainian flag showing in the background, and it shows only when a file is not loaded. No dialog pops up at all, no text, just a flag. And it does not intervene with the user interface. If what I'm saying is not true, then that's a bug and I can fix it. If so, please show me screenshots.

Added some more FAQ here: https://mifi.no/ukraine.html

Thank you for your reply. I think maybe we all have different definitions of pop-ups, but of course that's not the point. The past few days have been a bit difficult for me. Because I saw some videos of the country you support, which has carried out some brutal moves against people in the eastern part of its country since 2014. I'm not expressing my support for the act of waging war against a sovereign country, but politics is so complicated that when war finally happens, if everyone is too busy taking sides, obviously it's not going to be conducive to ending the war quickly and will probably get the opposite result. Honestly, I don't really want to discuss politics on github either. Thanks again for the superb software you have developed, and have a great life.

mifi commented 2 years ago

We can agree to disagree :) Anyways the source code is here free for you to modify, so you can just change the code however you like LosslessCut to look like.

mifi commented 2 years ago

I just learned that React.js is having similar issues after they put a Ukrainian flag on their website 🇺🇦

https://github.com/facebook/react/issues/23402

Screenshot 2022-03-03 at 22 41 18 Screenshot 2022-03-03 at 22 43 39

Also Node.js added a Ukraine support banner, but it had to be reverted due to putting contributors at risk: https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/pull/4447

yukminnie commented 2 years ago

I just learned that React.js is having similar issues after they put a Ukrainian flag on their website 🇺🇦

Screenshot 2022-03-03 at 22 41 18 Screenshot 2022-03-03 at 22 43 39

You have been living without war for too long, you may not realize the horror of war and feel that you can use "freedom" as a reason to flirt and joke about everything. There is no right or wrong, only position?

Obviously you do not care about the death of both sides of the war or not, but only want to get more patronage from the crowd of the same position, to gain some prestige, if so, then congratulations on your success. Maybe their support will make you feel more at ease?

『 "A country that is weak but can't see its own strength, weak in power but always disrespectful to the powerful, and always likes to insult its powerful neighbors in word and deed, the demise of such a country is predictable "』

《Signs of Destruction》- by Han Feizi, a Chinese philosopher and politician , 200 B.C..

I will use this software to edit some videos of Ukrainian Nazis hurting ordinary people in Eastern Ukraine, so that more people can see the truth and thus show their " support for Real Ukrainians ".

Thank you for developing "such a good" software.

mifi commented 2 years ago

You have been living without war for too long, you may not realize the horror of war and feel that you can use "freedom" as a reason to flirt and joke about everything. There is no right or wrong, only position?

I am not joking. I'm dead serious about my support to Ukraine.

Obviously you do not care about the death of both sides of the war or not, but only want to get more patronage from the crowd of the same position, to gain some prestige, if so, then congratulations on your success. Maybe their support will make you feel more at ease?

Absolutely not. Rather the contrary: I want more people to learn the truth about this conflict. Because there are so many people in countries like Russian and China that are trapped behind internet censorship and firewalls blocking foreign media and social media, I think LosslessCut could help inform at least some of those people. Because I don't think these countries will have blocked the domain name or IP address I'm using.

I will use this software to edit some videos of Ukrainian Nazis hurting ordinary people in Eastern Ukraine, so that more people can see the truth and thus show their " support for Real Ukrainians ".

You do you.

yukminnie commented 2 years ago

You have been living without war for too long, you may not realize the horror of war and feel that you can use "freedom" as a reason to flirt and joke about everything. There is no right or wrong, only position?

I am not joking. I'm dead serious about my support to Ukraine.

Obviously you do not care about the death of both sides of the war or not, but only want to get more patronage from the crowd of the same position, to gain some prestige, if so, then congratulations on your success. Maybe their support will make you feel more at ease?

Absolutely not. Rather the contrary: I want more people to learn the truth about this conflict. Because there are so many people in countries like Russian and China that are trapped behind internet censorship and firewalls blocking foreign media and social media, I think LosslessCut could help inform at least some of those people. Because I don't think these countries will have blocked the domain name or IP address I'm using.

I will use this software to edit some videos of Ukrainian Nazis hurting ordinary people in Eastern Ukraine, so that more people can see the truth and thus show their " support for Real Ukrainians ".

You do you.

  1. maybe

  2. Most countries in the West, not even their own Internet companies, themselves drowned in under the five-eyed coalition of fake news, and what is not living within the "walls", And what is there to be proud of ? In fact, I've seen a lot of programmers join in the political frenzy these days, and a bunch of inexplicable organizations have joined the sanctions against Russia, and I've realized even more what a great thing the GFW is. What sports, open source, freedom of trade, freedom of speech and politics have nothing to do with this, what a boring propaganda, how double standard people can be.

  3. ok

littlestone0806 commented 2 years ago

You have been living without war for too long, you may not realize the horror of war and feel that you can use "freedom" as a reason to flirt and joke about everything. There is no right or wrong, only position?

I am not joking. I'm dead serious about my support to Ukraine.

Obviously you do not care about the death of both sides of the war or not, but only want to get more patronage from the crowd of the same position, to gain some prestige, if so, then congratulations on your success. Maybe their support will make you feel more at ease?

Absolutely not. Rather the contrary: I want more people to learn the truth about this conflict. Because there are so many people in countries like Russian and China that are trapped behind internet censorship and firewalls blocking foreign media and social media, I think LosslessCut could help inform at least some of those people. Because I don't think these countries will have blocked the domain name or IP address I'm using.

I will use this software to edit some videos of Ukrainian Nazis hurting ordinary people in Eastern Ukraine, so that more people can see the truth and thus show their " support for Real Ukrainians ".

You do you.

我想问一下作者mifi,你真的知道什么是GFW么?对于开发者来说,GFW形同虚设,我们能了解更全面的真相。真正蒙在鼓里的是你们片面的认识,相信BBC也是臭名昭著吧。对于中国大众来说,GFW能保护国家安全。作者公开支持乌克兰,我最多指出作者的不妥。但是你要是污蔑GFW,对不起,这个我会死杠到底

a84r7a3rga76fg commented 2 years ago

Hi, I've used your software for almost 6 years now. You stated today on your software that you condemn Russia's invasion and you don't support US invasions, but I've never seen you condemn any US invasion. I've also never seen you condemn the Ukrainian armed forces which have killed over 14,000 Russian-speaking civilians with Ukrainian citizenship since 2014, so it's quite obvious to people that you're being biased and untruthful.

You also regurgitated more of the West's propaganda, "Russian soldiers are sent to Ukraine without knowing why". That's such a hysterical thing to say and fall for. Of course they know why they're there. If a fraction of them didn't know why they're in Ukraine, the small weight of it would've immediately collapsed on their army.

Then after that you said the world is full of misinformation and censorship which is a really ironic thing for you to say. If one really wants to see who's doing misinformation and censorship, take a look at the West and see what they're doing to Assange and non-Western media outlets (DDoSing and seizing their top-level domains and DNS). Also, read the book "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media" which explains how the Western press that's constantly lamenting to people that it's the free press is in reality anything but free as they're only fabricating news to manufacture consent to further their corporate agenda and encourage catastrophes such as the Vietnam war and other wars started by the West.

You said you've the right to support whoever you want, you do have that right, but you don't have the right to lie about things.

I want more people to learn the truth about this conflict

Then why haven't you shared any truth about it?

Because there are so many people in countries like Russian and China that are trapped behind internet censorship and firewalls blocking foreign media and social media

Which Western media is banned in 'Russian?

mifi commented 2 years ago

Hi, I've used your software for almost 6 years now. You stated today on your software that you condemn Russia's invasion and you don't support US invasions, but I've never seen you condemn any US invasion. I've also never seen you condemn the Ukrainian armed forces which have killed over 14,000 Russian-speaking civilians with Ukrainian citizenship since 2014, so it's quite obvious to people that you're being biased and untruthful.

Hi. Actually the past US wars are irrelevant of the Ukraine issue, but let me answer anyways: LosslessCut didn't even exist back then, so how could I have possibly supported any of those countries invaded by the US? The Russia-Ukraine invasion started now and is currently ongoing, so that's why it's important to act now.

Which Western media is banned in 'Russian?

Do your own research and you will see: BBC, Deutsche Welle and Radio Free Europe

As well as western social media like facebook and twitter

You also regurgitated more of the West's propaganda, "Russian soldiers are sent to Ukraine without knowing why". That's such a hysterical thing to say and fall for. Of course they know why they're there. If a fraction of them didn't know why they're in Ukraine, the small weight of it would've immediately collapsed on their army.

There exists plenty of evidence out there to support this. Do a bit of research and you will see.

Then after that you said the world is full of misinformation and censorship which is a really ironic thing for you to say. If one really wants to see who's doing misinformation and censorship, take a look at the West and see what they're doing to Assange and non-Western media outlets (DDoSing and seizing their top-level domains and DNS). Also, read the book "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media" which explains how the Western press that's constantly lamenting to people that it's the free press is in reality anything but free as they're only fabricating news to manufacture consent to further their corporate agenda and encourage catastrophes such as the Vietnam war and other wars started by the West.

That's exactly why I'm saying that the world is full of misinformation and censorship, because I mean it's not just in some parts, but all parts of the world including the west, so I think we agree on this point. (I support Julian Assange btw.) But in this case, right now, the Russian misinformation is very important to combat because it's the justification for an ongoing invasion. So for me it's important to at least try to combat some of this misinformation.

huangzeweihhh commented 2 years ago

I understand how you feel. Perhaps journalists from neutral countries are more credible. The BBC and CNN will report only part of the truth for the benefit of the United States.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oh-IE2zmJc&t=8s

mifi commented 2 years ago

@huangzeweihhh the source I linked was from Aljazeera which is a Qatari news agency (middle east) which is known to have an anti-american bias. And no countries are neutral. Everyone has a bias

radozd commented 2 years ago

I can only disagree with any politics in software. I'm using an older version 3.22 and still see this flag. Why? It's very frustrating to see LosslessCut doing this. Just like all these BLM/SJW/... things.

mifi commented 2 years ago

It's easy for us to say that we disagree with this or that, but the fact is that there is a war ongoing, and thousands of civilians as well as Russian/Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in just two weeks. If LosslessCut can just help a single ignorant person learn what is really happening in Ukraine, then it's worth it. I've never done this before, but the current situation is so serious that I deem it necessary.

radozd commented 2 years ago

LosslessCut won't change anything but its reputation. Ignorant persons just don't use programs like this nor use programs at all.

I'm afraid that with backdoor like this next time I'll see gay porn (!!!) in the background just because author feels that everyone should see this. Possible? Sure!

mifi commented 2 years ago

Ignorant persons just don't use programs like this nor use programs at all.

You'd be surprised by how many Russians still support Putin (I read 70%.) I think there is a considerable chance that at least one of these will use computers and software.

radozd commented 2 years ago

Supporting Putin doesn't make you ignorant. Evil maybe or stupid or frightened, not ignorant. I don't believe in 70%. Even 50% is too much. Can't prove it, no one can. Still it's not about Putin or Ukraine. It's about you and your soft. Don't get yourself dirty. Please.

daltroaugusto commented 2 years ago

Unfortunately, after seeing this implementation, I'm leaving LosslessCut and searching for alternatives (even if proprietary). NATO-affiliated media is not only spreading fake stuff, and deliberately ignoring neonazi infiltration in Ukraine Army. Not just this, suddenly no one gives a damn about Donbass' people, about workers in Odessa (in this episode, ukrainian movements tortured and killed a teenager, burned down the union building with a lot of workers inside it!), about the actual ethnical cleaning purposes that those far-right movements carry.

There are no angels in an imperialist war, even if media is trying to push us their NATO impressions. It's a war that must stop, as well as NATO and USA imperialist politics. NATO in fiction and all of this wouldn't even begin, so... We don't need either Russia or Ukraine flags. Said that, we aren't allowed to just take NATO's position, this would be just disrespectful to all Donbass and Odessa's people, to every person that is fighting against this pro-nazi government inside Ukraine like the young Kononovich brothers. In my country, Brazil, the hegemonic media (TV channels and news portals) often interviews those extremist elements as representatives of ukrainian people. It's revolting: today, a widely known TV program - "Fantástico" - interviewed this "ukrainian survivor" that have nothing less than a PRAVYY SEKTOR flag in her wall. Ofc, seems really impartial and reliable source, in a "official", "respected" media company. They're not making journalism in this side of world: it's pure, huge NATO propaganda.

LosslessCut is a great piece of software, maybe I could return to use it in some undefined future, but for now I just think it's important for all of us - that were surprised by the flags - to express our worries and opinions here, as users and community.

kelna commented 2 years ago

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. This was never more true than nowadays.

It's pretty smug to spread your political opinion and call other people with differing opinion ignorant. You say you want to spread awareness and seem to ignore the fact that the Ukrainian government along with USA, NATO and EU widely distributed verifiably false statements, concealed facts and misrepresented the situation before and during the invasion. And now we are marching toward WW3 or at the very least a global financial and humanitarian crisis with local conflicts heating up around the planet. And all this is made possible by people exactly like you. Good willing, but seriously mislead people cheering for the warmongering and power-hungry global elite to "do something". Like they managed the pandemic so well. Which BTW started from a US-funded biolab... of which there are 26 in Ukraine that conducted research on highly deadly pathogens, also called bioweapons. This is a piece of information that your seemingly beloved Western media lied about, although it is now verified, official fact, based on US Government sources and documents. You have a problem with Russian censorship and misinformation (rightfully) while ignoring the fact that we in the West are also living in complete censorship and surrounded by misinformation 24/7. I would argue that it's way worse than the in-your-face Russian censorship because at least they are straight about it.

Don't act like you are the arbiter of truth. Right now almost (maybe not even almost) noone knows what's going on and more importantly, what's going to happen. War in other parts of Europe is absolutely possible. What we should do now:

  1. Help the Ukrainian refugees.
  2. Seek the truth and hunt down misinformation on both sides.
  3. Chill down and urgently seek solution for peace and suppress the globalist warmongering.

The "beloved" Western media and governments are doing the exact opposite of this. They don't help the refugees from Ukraine, unlike those who arrive from Africa or the Middle East. They amplify dangerous falsehoods about the war and they beat the wardrums for an even wider conflict. Oh yes, and the sanctions that create a manufactured world crisis with oil and food prices shooting up, followed by everything else, leading to mass impoverishment everywhere. This will lead to an Arab Spring 2.0 with literally hundreds of millions without enough money to eat, driving up the so much desired migration to Europe. Which is probably the real intention of these sanctions that hurt everyone, except for the Western elite.

We are living through very dark times and the worst is yet to come. You are not helping anyone and unintentionally possibly even make everything just a little bit worse. Anyway, I just wanted to get some video editing done. I wasn't expecting Western geopolitics to invade my work schedule.

mifi commented 2 years ago

I am not saying that everyone who disagrees with me is ignorant, but I’m saying that the people (mostly Russian) who believe that Putin is currently conducting a special military operation for peacekeeping in Ukraine by getting rid of the aggressive neo-Nazi government (quote from Putin), those people are ignorant and must be told the truth. While I agree that western media also has a lot of propaganda, it cannot even remotely compare to the Russian media, and especially Putin who does nothing but lie in the face of his people and the world to get his way.

daltroaugusto commented 2 years ago

Well, have you ever tried to compare CNN and Redfish content on this war? 😅

mattack1 commented 2 years ago

Supporting Putin doesn't make you ignorant. Evil maybe or stupid or frightened, not ignorant.

Yes, by definition ignorant, because they don't have the info (no free press).

ig·no·rant | ˈiɡnərənt | adjective lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated

mattack1 commented 2 years ago

Unfortunately, after seeing this implementation, I'm leaving LosslessCut and searching for alternatives (even if proprietary). NATO-affiliated media is not only spreading fake stuff, and deliberately ignoring neonazi infiltration in Ukraine Army.

[citation needed]

Give proof by actual journalists.

daltroaugusto commented 2 years ago

Unfortunately, after seeing this implementation, I'm leaving LosslessCut and searching for alternatives (even if proprietary). NATO-affiliated media is not only spreading fake stuff, and deliberately ignoring neonazi infiltration in Ukraine Army.

[citation needed]

Give proof by actual journalists.

Well, I'll just cite this tweet of Pedro Aguiar, a really respected journalist of my country, researcher in International Journalism, News Agencies and NWICO, nothing less than PhD in Communication from the Rio de Janeiro's State University (UERJ), Master in Communication from the Rio de Janeiro's Federal University (UFRJ): "Comentário de uma professora de Comunicação em uma lista de pesquisadores: "Não sei se a Ucrânia se tornará mesmo membro da OTAN, mas pelo noticiário a ABERT com certeza entra"".

In my weak translation for english: "Commentary by a Communication's teacher in a researchers list: "I don't know if Ukraine will be an actual NATO member, but by our news, ABERT (BARTB) is becoming for sure"".

Ps.: ABERT (BARTB) = Associação Brasileira de Emissoras de Rádio e Televisão (Brazilian Association of Radio and Television Broadcasters), an association that promote and support the "right of free speech" for our "media vehicles", specially the rights and interests of the private companies that are responsible by almost all broadcasting in our territoy. Major sources of our hegemonic media are entirely british/US agencies, like Reuters, BBC, Radio Free Asia. It's well-known that almost all demands in MacBride Report are still not solved, and sure will not be, unless we actively fight imperialism/monopolist capitalism.

mattack1 commented 2 years ago

No, I mean anything relating to Nazis, which is why I quoted only that part.

daltroaugusto commented 2 years ago

No, I mean anything relating to Nazis, which is why I quoted only that part.

I thought I had explictly cited an example of this that happened in our media, heh (Pravyy Sektor flag in a "refugee" wall, just presented as an uninterested "neutral" refugee, not as a right-wing extremist russophobic woman). Let's see more, so:

SS Bolts symbol in some "Ukraine war voluntary", live on SkyNews: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMnQ1A9XoAI1i6L?format=jpg&name=large Pravyy Sektor in brazilian TV media: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNdBsO5X0AIjOn6?format=jpg&name=medium Manchester's media actually interviewed a former Nazi soldier, presented as some kind of "ukrainian hero": https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNPOtbzVUAMQ6Pi?format=jpg&name=large

Ps.: the subtitle of the brazilian matter is something like "Support for the war victims - Ukrainian came to Brazil, but helps who is trying to scape from the conflict". It's something even to get scared about: Brazil and other countries becoming modern Ratlines for these ultras, and no one even (can) speak a millimeter about how ultra they may be. Sure if we can, we should help Ukraine people, but we absolutely DON'T NEED to normalize neonazi movements and symbols in the middle of this way. This is what Western news agencies are doing, while NATO is actively arming these movements.

mifi commented 2 years ago

Just because some photos showing a some random person with a logo or a flag doesn’t mean that the Ukraine government is a bunch of neo-nazis. Heck, I’m willing to bet that almost every country has some people with neo-nazi ideology in their population. Even my country has some neo-nazi groups. But it doesn’t mean that Norway is a Nazi-run country…

ipansubastian commented 2 years ago

Oh God, this repository contains propaganda.

folknor commented 2 years ago

Frankly my main problem with this is that I'm being force-pulled back to international affairs while I want to focus on other things. It's the same thing with news posts from random game developers in Steam that suddenly fly Ukranian flags and so forth. I'm in Steam to play and have fun, to actually detach my brain from the world, to relax and recharge.

But that's just the main problem with it. The rest is the fact that the war was predicted accurately and by dozens of people in 2013/14 when the US overthrew the democratically elected government and installed Vlod. Or we can go further back, to when Clinton told Gorbachev that he and the US approved Putin as Russias head of state, successing Gorbachev. And we've done nothing. We knew this was coming. Russia has told us repeatedly. This is not a surprise to anyone. Of course, that doesn't legitimize war. It doesn't excuse war. Putin should be hanged. But still, we knew it was coming, and we knew how to prevent it.

Other factors worth mentioning are the 13000+ citizens the Ukranian state has killed over the past 8 years. Or the 2 national TV stations they've forcefully shut down, and all the dozens of journalists they've imprisoned or killed, and all the newspapers they've shut down.

There are no good people anywhere, except all the civilians. They obviously don't deserve war. They deserve to live free and prosper.

Do I deserve to be free of this nonsense while using your app? Apparently not. Apparently I'm forced to think about these things 24/7, even if I haven't owned a TV for 20 years. Even if I don't read newspapers. I can't escape it. Fuck.

mifi commented 2 years ago

Frankly my main problem with this is that I'm being force-pulled back to international affairs while I want to focus on other things. It's the same thing with news posts from random game developers in Steam that suddenly fly Ukranian flags and so forth. I'm in Steam to play and have fun, to actually detach my brain from the world, to relax and recharge.

No offence but I can't really sympathise with someone who just wants to detach their brain from the world and play video games, while our neighbour country is currently under attack from one of the world's super powers. This war is not about you. This is about trying to stop the war by collectively pressuring Putin, because it's the only thing the world can do that will not instantly trigger World War 3. If you don't want in on that, then I respect that, but I am definitely not able to sympathise with your "suffering".

Do I deserve to be free of this nonsense while using your app? Apparently not. Apparently I'm forced to think about these things 24/7, even if I haven't owned a TV for 20 years. Even if I don't read newspapers. I can't escape it. Fuck.

You are not forced to use LosslessCut. Unlike Ukrainians/Russians you are not forced to do anything. In fact you have so many freedoms which they don't currently have. But if you want to take part of society you have to give and take in the society you are part of. Or you can move somewhere else.

radozd commented 2 years ago

Back to the dev things. It was kinda easy to remove the flag. But interesting thing: i've blocked any LosslessCut connections via firewall and.... the program no longer works! It crashes after some short period of time.

I don't consider it safe anymore. Bye.

mifi commented 2 years ago

@radozd that shouldnt happen, and could be a bug. What kind of crash? Any error message? Maybe it’s the update checker that’s crashing. I will check

a84r7a3rga76fg commented 2 years ago

@mifi

Actually the past US wars are irrelevant of the Ukraine issue

It's not.

LosslessCut didn't even exist back then, so how could I have possibly supported any of those countries invaded by the US?

Your software has been publicly available for nearly 6 years and the US has invaded plenty of countries in those years, staged coups in other countries and armed and funded someone else's invasions/occupations. The US has also besieged other countries with economic sanctions and it's about time people acknowledge those as a weapon of mass destruction because it indirectly affects the health of people and results in devastating consequences, it's also a clear violation to Article 25 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human rights as it states "everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food...and medical care...".

The Russia-Ukraine invasion started now and is currently ongoing, so that's why it's important to act now.

The US invasions, occupations and economic sanctions are also currently ongoing and the US has been at war for 227 out of 246 years since 1776. You haven't said a word about that, instead you're outright denying it.

Do your own research and you will see: BBC, Deutsche Welle and Radio Free Europe As well as western social media like facebook and twitter

Those are the propaganda arms of the UK, Germany and the US. While the Russian parliament did pass such a bill, those sites are not banned since I can access them from a Russian proxy.

Also, why did you not read that Western article? The first sentence in it says "Russia has completely blocked access to Facebook in retaliation for the platform placing restrictions on state-owned media"

There exists plenty of evidence out there to support this

The incessant barrage of evidence-free accusations from the propaganda arms of Western governments aren't evidence. If a shred of that absurd accusation was remotely true, the Russian army would've immediately collapsed.

the Russian misinformation is very important to combat because it's the justification for an ongoing invasion

The US did perpetrate a coup in Ukraine in February 2014 to overthrow Ukraine's democratically elected government, the leaked phone call between Victoria Nuland and George Pyatt and so much more prove it.

Robert Parry wrote a short article about the US coup in 2014. https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/02/27/cheering-democratic-coup-ukraine

Here's a BBC article about that phone call. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Why are you ignoring the promises by NATO to not expand towards Russia and how they expanded to 14 countries since 1991? Der Spiegel, a German weekly news magazine founded by a British army officer, wrote an English article about it and even though the article is biased towards the West, it still points out that the Russian misinformation is not misinformation at all. https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nato-s-eastward-expansion-is-vladimir-putin-right-a-bf318d2c-7aeb-4b59-8d5f-1d8c94e1964d

the source I linked was from Aljazeera which is a Qatari news agency (middle east) which is known to have an anti-american bias.

Where is that bias??? The largest US military installation in West Asia is located in Qatar.

a84r7a3rga76fg commented 2 years ago

@kelna

They don't help the refugees from Ukraine, unlike those who arrive from Africa or the Middle East.

Western media hasn't helped refugees from Africa or West Asia. In fact, ,they do the opposite because they're manufacturing consent to encourage catastrophes such as Western-backed wars or Western invasions which causes refugee crises to happen. Also, they've been quite supportive of Ukrainian refugees and I've not seen them provide such coverage for refugees from Africa or West Asia. https://twitter.com/non_philosophy/status/1498000420815396872

mifi commented 2 years ago

Your software has been publicly available for nearly 6 years and the US has invaded plenty of countries in those years, staged coups in other countries and armed and funded someone else's invasions/occupations. The US has also besieged other countries with economic sanctions and it's about time people acknowledge those as a weapon of mass destruction because it indirectly affects the health of people and results in devastating consequences, it's also a clear violation to Article 25 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human rights as it states "everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food...and medical care...".

Just because I show support in this particular war, doesn't mean that I have to show support in all other wars, right?

The US invasions, occupations and economic sanctions are also currently ongoing and the US has been at war for 227 out of 246 years since 1776. You haven't said a word about that, instead you're outright denying it.

When did I deny that the US has been at war for 227 out of 246 years since 1776?

Just because I agree with the US some things (like sanctioning Russia in the current situation) doesn't mean that I have to agree with them on everything.

Also, why did you not read that Western article? The first sentence in it says "Russia has completely blocked access to Facebook in retaliation for the platform placing restrictions on state-owned media"

I do not agree with facebook/youtube blocking RT, but there is a significant difference between:

Why are you ignoring the promises by NATO to not expand towards Russia and how they expanded to 14 countries since 1991? Der Spiegel, a German weekly news magazine founded by a British army officer, wrote an English article about it and even though the article is biased towards the West, it still points out that the Russian misinformation is not misinformation at all. https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nato-s-eastward-expansion-is-vladimir-putin-right-a-bf318d2c-7aeb-4b59-8d5f-1d8c94e1964d

As you can see from the article you linked, it's all murky. There is no clear conclusion to be made, and it depends on who you ask.

The incessant barrage of evidence-free accusations from the propaganda arms of Western governments aren't evidence. If a shred of that absurd accusation was remotely true, the Russian army would've immediately collapsed.

That is your opinion.

Where is that bias??? The largest US military installation in West Asia is located in Qatar.

You can see some examples here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_English#Allegations_of_anti-American_bias

Western media hasn't helped refugees from Africa or West Asia. In fact, ,they do the opposite because they're manufacturing consent to encourage catastrophes such as Western-backed wars or Western invasions which causes refugee crises to happen. Also, they've been quite supportive of Ukrainian refugees and I've not seen them provide such coverage for refugees from Africa or West Asia. https://twitter.com/non_philosophy/status/1498000420815396872

I agree that many media channels are sometimes racist (including western, as can be seen in the videos you linked). But that's because many humans are racist, and on live news reports, those mistakes cannot be cut out. As for refugee crisis and wars, I think it's human nature to report more detailed on the things that are closer to us, either in distance or culture. European news don't report much on China or Russia, and vice versa. That doesn't prove anything about refugees though. Europe has been taking tons of refugees from many different countries from around the world.

kelna commented 2 years ago

@kelna

They don't help the refugees from Ukraine, unlike those who arrive from Africa or the Middle East.

Western media hasn't helped refugees from Africa or West Asia. In fact, ,they do the opposite because they're manufacturing consent to encourage catastrophes such as Western-backed wars or Western invasions which causes refugee crises to happen. Also, they've been quite supportive of Ukrainian refugees and I've not seen them provide such coverage for refugees from Africa or West Asia. https://twitter.com/non_philosophy/status/1498000420815396872

I wasn't talking about Western media regarding helping the refugees, but about Western governments, especially the UK. They said they don't have place for Ukrainians while still accepting migrants from the 3rd world.

kli2013 commented 2 years ago

double standard dog

HadenLeeGit commented 2 years ago

You are PATHETIC

xibaibai9527 commented 1 year ago

I read a novel, there is a theory, white left behavior is like credit card points.

If you or your friends are Ukrainian, I sympathize with you. If not, enjoy the life of accumulating points, friend. We all know that you do not care about the people suffering from war in the world, but this is part of the rules of the Western world, I understand.

I like your software by the way.

Jookia commented 1 year ago

This feature is broken in Flatpak builds due to lack of network access.

mifi commented 1 year ago

Oh I see. That probably means the version update notification feature is broken too. I created a PR here: https://github.com/flathub/no.mifi.losslesscut/pull/38

Perkolator commented 1 year ago

@mifi Love your resolution and strength to fight these ignorant idiots.

deptyped commented 1 year ago

Just want to say thank you for your position and support, it means a lot.

iwconfig commented 1 year ago

Everything we do is politically motivated and double standards will always exist. That includes the tools we use to communicate. Take a stand and don't make assumptions just because you get caught up in issues with double standards. Diplomacy is the only reliable way forward for everyone and lets just agree that this deadly war, like any other deadly war, is completely unnecessary and morally wrong. Russian aggression in Ukraine is bad, yes. US aggression in Iraq and Afghanistan is bad, yes. World war aggression is bad, yes. No country and no people is better than the other one if this premise is not upheld.

@mifi maybe you should add the peace sign as well, to ease the moral itch some people seem to confuse with the principle "single" standards. 🕊️🤪

FiftyFour7250 commented 1 year ago

@mifi Hi. Can we hope for something similar regarding Israel and their bombing of residential buildings in Syria (Damascus) in the last few days, which has already suffered greatly from the earthquake?

mifi commented 1 year ago

Sure, I'm all against countries invading or attacking other countries. But we must put things into perspective. In Ukraine, Russia has so far in the war destroyed over 30.000 residential buildings and thousands of schools and medical buildings. So, Russia is by far the greatest evil right now, and I will continue my stance with Ukraine until that changes.

FiftyFour7250 commented 1 year ago

@mifi And not a word about Syria. So it is with all of you. That's how propaganda works. You don't care about other wars, because your country doesn't invest in them, it doesn't need taxpayer approval, that's why there is no news about it in the media, and even more so there is no cancel Jews. It's not profitable. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure your compassion for Ukrainians is absolutely sincere, but it's caused by manipulations of the government with mercenary motives, under the leadership of the US, which unleashed this war.

mifi commented 1 year ago

Well Syria is quite different as it’s under attack by multiple nations like US, Russia, Iran and more. It’s a complicated war. Right now Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is the most dangerous war IMO and that’s why I choose to support Ukraine, however it doesn’t mean that I don’t condemn other wars.