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A lot of examples don't run, condition that element TITLE is missing, the whole thing is unstable #4

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
CCL is a mess and should not be used to deliver anything
resembling an end-user application, much less used to teach
newbies opengl/and-or lisp. This is exactly the sort of app
that turns people away from Lisp alltogether. If you can not
do it right, its better not to do it at all.

Detailed issues: 80% of the examples do not run as condition
is thrown about TITLE missing. It would be good if the example code
within the examples was uncommented and ran on 'compile and load file'.

The IDE is abysmally bad to the point of becoming a mockery of Lisp.
Extremelly unstable, beach balls all the time seemingly for no reason at
all, lack of customization, stupid defaults, alien look & feel with no
relevance to Apple HIG. Most importantly: It does not inspire confidence
for someone to make the investment and learn/use lisp.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by zos...@gmail.com on 22 May 2009 at 3:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I agree, CCL has a long way to go. If you have specific comments you should 
share them in public, i.e., on the 
CCL newslist. Keeping the example code uncomment sounds like a good idea.

I cannot reproduce your problems. We have run the examples on several machines. 
Can you share the version of 
OS X you are running?  

We previously used OpenGL and MCL to teach students about OpenGL and Lisp with 
great success. Do you have 
some better ideas for how to get people interested in Lisp?

Original comment by alex.rep...@gmail.com on 27 May 2009 at 1:26