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Enable romajization of kana #71

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
New (minor) feature:
Please make an optional mode where hiragana/katakana particles is written as 
romaji as well, would be very useful in order to learn these.
Maybe too hard for kanji, but at least do it for the others.

Thanks!

Original issue reported on code.google.com by jonatan....@gmail.com on 24 Jan 2012 at 11:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I would love to have this feature implemented as well.  I'm a casual learner, 
so sometimes the kana escapes me and I have to look them up.  I think if 
rikaikun did this, my learning would be greatly accelerated in a very 
immersible fashion, as I would be able to learn by site without breaking it up 
by referencing charts. 

Original comment by azriel.c...@grimpanda.com on 27 Oct 2012 at 4:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Obviously everyone is free to choose their own learning methods, and I'm 
certainly not going to argue against adding additional functionality to 
Rikaikun, but I would personally recommend avoiding romaji pretty much 
altogether.

Learn all the kana well when first starting the language, and abandon romaji 
from thereon out. There are multiple reasons. For one, romaji isn't 
standardized well at all (conversely to kana). Reading romaji instead of kana 
can also hurt one's pronunciation, as the Latin alphabet wasn't designed to 
represent eastern Asian languages.

My 2 cents. Again, of course if people want this, there's nothing wrong with 
that - just as long as it's an option that can be turned on if one prefers to 
have it (and disabled otherwise).

Original comment by michael....@gmail.com on 24 Dec 2012 at 11:40

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
@michael

I agree with the general idea that romaji isn't something you want to lean on, 
but the issue for me is that I study very casually.  Often I may not remember 
what SA is in katakana for instance.  But if I could see the latin, I could 
easily remember by repetition.   I get an email once a week or so from Mixi or 
a japanese news service.  I love Rikai for this!  It keeps me remembering many 
things, but I would love to see that option available so I didn't have to 
google up a site to drill my kana again, and just use Rikai as a one stop shop 
for my learning.

I agree with the main line of your thinking, but the sounds associated with a 
kana simply cannot be avoided altogether.  One must know that ち, in hiragana, 
or チ in katakana has the CHI sound.  I don't think it's something that should 
be on by default, but it's a shame it's not part of it.  After all, there *is* 
a sound associated with it, this *is* a learning tool at the end of the day, 
and I just think that for completion sake it should be included.

Original comment by azriel.c...@grimpanda.com on 24 Dec 2012 at 8:25

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Has passed long time since this topic was started, blame the Google search :P

I also really want to have the option to display Romaji on Rikaikun (and on 
Rikaichan too, because I use Firefox).

In my case, I am spanish, so the romaji pronunciation is not a problem for me 
because the pronunciation of the romaji is ALMOST EXACTLY the same than the 
spanish.

I am desperated to learn japanese, I am with contact of japanese communities 
everyday, and I want to talk with them correctly and be able to understand what 
they say. Google translator is fucking hellish terrible at translating 
japanese, 90% of its translations doesn't make sense or/and is doing completely 
wrong translations.

What avoids me to learn japanese more quickly, is exactly the lack of "Japanese 
to Romaji" translations, because if I could read the romaji of each japanese 
word, I would remember more easily all the Hiragana and Kanji (I'm almost done 
with the Katakana), and I can almost ensure that I would learn japanese in a 
year if not earlier.

So please, rikaikun/chan staff, implement the option to display the Romaji, I 
will really appreciate this feature forever.

Original comment by killukiz...@gmail.com on 29 Jun 2015 at 4:19