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Add the possibility to report servers according to their title/description (rules needed) #42

Open Zughy opened 3 years ago

Zughy commented 3 years ago

Problem

See https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8710#issuecomment-751237200 Anyone at the moment could create a server with a description such as "[name] should die", "let's burn all the [ethnicity]" etc.

Solutions

(steps)

  1. Discuss and write down a set of rules
  2. Implement a report system
  3. Have someone moderating it
  4. Profit

Alternatives

Don't, but this can become a huge problem. See the aforementioned comment

Additional context

MT could feature some sort of 18+ tag for porn and general kinks that don't hurt no one/spread hate. By no means servers with a political vision should be penalised as long as, again, that political vision is not based on hate. For instance, a server called "The Almighty NeoNazis" should be banned, whereas Anarchy servers shouldn't. MT should only cover servers titles and descriptions. If servers admins spread hate, it's not MT responsibility and it should be up to people to expose these toxic elements.

sfan5 commented 3 years ago

By "add the possibility" do you mean inside the Minetest client? You can and could always talk to the team if there are any concerns. Adding a report system is a waste of time IMO because issues are extremely rare.

Discuss and write down a set of rules

There isn't anything official or written down, but the only rule we enforce so far is pretty much "keep it family friendly" for names/descriptions show on the server list.

MT should only cover servers titles and descriptions.

I agree that MT should not police contents of servers. However I wouldn't set this rule into stone. If we receive knowledge of questionable or even illegal things happening it can make sense to delist a server from the list.

Zughy commented 3 years ago

Adding a report system is a waste of time IMO because issues are extremely rare

How about in the future? If MT becomes popular, these things are more likely to happen and I don't think you core devs would like to be bothered every time with "hey look at this, look at that". It's not a priority now for sure, I'm just trying to imagine when the time spent developing a report system becomes lesser than the time spent dealing with separate reports from separate sources

the only rule we enforce so far is pretty much "keep it family friendly"

Eventually it'd be nice to have some sort of 18+ filter, maybe hidden by default that could be activated via advanced settings. I'm not into these things, but some are and in the end they're not harming anyone

If we receive knowledge of questionable or even illegal things happening it can make sense to delist a server from the list

This is tricky, there are a lot of gray areas and one mistake can backfire, hard. I genuinely don't know

Calinou commented 3 years ago

I think delisting servers has been done in the past already. At the end of the day, the master server is an online service. We can choose to include or exclude anyone at our own discretion :slightly_smiling_face:

Zughy commented 3 years ago

Yes, you can, but providing a few general rules would be better to avoid sounding like dictators. Even just the family friendly thing sfan mentioned