Open miroR opened 7 years ago
What did you do to trigger this? Can you reproduce this on vanilla?
On 171125-18:14+0000, minipli wrote:
What did you do to trigger this? Can you reproduce this on vanilla?
I got the logs, and they will tell you. Hmmh... let me see. I'll try and keep it short here, and once I prepare the (yet non-existent) page: https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-171117-grsec-RAP-Oops/grsec-oops-171125-0034.php then I'll possibly try make it explanatory for non-advanced (possibly new) users to follow as well. LATER NOTE: Sorry, it didn't go that way... there just were too important aspects to explain that did not fit in few sentences only...
But, oh, no! I wasn't doing anything... I was sleeping (Europe CET here, but my logs are in UTC)... I was already sleeping for one hour or so... I remember that much. So there may and may not be much in the logs. I can however, send the logs to you and to @HacKurx, in private email. Just say if you want them!
And my pretty strong belief is it's something from some other part of the system, some cache or such (read near bottom for more), I need to point out here that I run hardware that may be close to or just of the year 2013 when AMD started including PSP in their processors: https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd ... See here, there is my then new hardware, it's the hardware, MBO and proc of the systems of the Call Traces of mine of these days: Use old amd64 gentoo image on new amd64 hardware, possible? https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-940916.html
But just what, how do I know what caused that?... The following is important for understanding also. This system, as far as the HDD, is not the same as the one with the previous Call Traces. I changed the HDD. It is, however, still the unchanged system as the system of the previous traces as far as everything else, MBO, Ethers, RAM, you name it.
I had cloned onto this HDD the same dd images as onto the previous HDD which I put into this same machine first, and had all those issues shown in the Call Traces previous to 25 of November... The machine, with the previous HDD in, must have been worked on by attackers, by AMD PSP/or its precursor, and by other means --I hope I'll manage to say more on that on the above linked grsec-oops-171125-0034.php page.-- But the guy(s) must have gotten tired to do it all over with the new HDD... Hi, guy(s)! Great work! Interesting work! Except you failed to b0rk my systems...
That last Call Trace very early into the 25th of November probably happened out of something that remained in the system from previously, not from the fresh, clean from being cloned from my Air-Gapped machine, HDD, that I prepared and booted a few hours earlier. Because no more breakages since then... And in three different systems! One running my only-my-hardware no-outside modules 4.9.65, that's the Air-Gapped machine, other two, clones of the Air-Gapped machine, running all-modules-separately-available 4.9.65 kernel that I'd like to offer to newbies of Devuan/Debian. No more traces, no more breakages since then in any of the three systems!
The theory that it's something not on HDD that caused this Call Trace is corroborated by very bad and persistent (but only up to a point after which it vanishes) apparent corrruption of the kernel, so inexistent corruption, as you can read at: grsec-unoff (RAP) related Call Traces, 171124-0102 oops https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-171117-grsec-RAP-Oops/grsec-oops-171124-0102.php
Doesn't it? No real corruption, and shows like one...
And pls. notice that previously to switching back to BIOS, during my EFI weeks the boot partition was unencrypted! So the full disk encryption thwarted attacker(s)' plans very badly (for him/them)!
But, of course, there is no firm evidence... A little more evidence there might show once I work out the network traces...
I hope I haven't been too (verbosely) exhaustive...
As far as your question, Mathias (minipli is Mathias Krause):
Can you reproduce this on vanilla? I couldn't reproduce this, I don't think... I could install vanilla, but what should I do to try and reproduce it? Maybe if you see the logs... (if you want me to send them to you) I did have exec_logging and audit_chdir enabled right after setting the new HDD up, so maybe you find some suspectful binary execution somewhere...
Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr