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Talks from Oliver Keyes and Rich Fitzjohn on April 4 (revised title) #100

Closed jennybc closed 8 years ago

jennybc commented 8 years ago

Hi all. Oliver Keyes will be in the area between 21 March and 8 April and is willing to give us a talk on

I'm would love to get the group's input on which topic(s) are of most interest and possible dates/times.

To learn more about Oliver:

pssguy commented 8 years ago

This is a great opportunity

Ironholds commented 8 years ago

Because my packages are boring and pointless!

Okay they're not pointless but they have a narrow range of application, specifically to web analytics. Most of them, anyway. Teach a person to fish, on the other hand...

SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

I think this would be a great opportunity to talk about ethics. Both data & computing in general. Oliver's got a great recent post about his choice to stop releasing packages through CRAN. I think he's right to do it, but I'm not sure if I can do it.

What are our responsibilities as coders and developers? How do we exercise them and what can we do when we believe people are acting unethically?

I think we tend to avoid these issues in favour of learning new skills (!) but I think it's critical & @ironholds has an excellent perspective on multiple fronts. He could teach us to fish ethically.

SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

Here is the post I was talking about: http://ironholds.org/blog/down-and-out-in-statistical-computing/

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

Yes to all of the above! I am particularly interested in point #2 (pure self interest, currently looking for data science work : ), but all points would be interesting. Would ethics work best in a more conversational (that means 'beers') setting? Happy with whatever people want to do, and huge thanks to @Ironholds!

Ironholds commented 8 years ago

Good question. Usually I've handled ethics as part of a wider talk about the nature of applied data science - broad job advice and notes to the wise about ethics. I do have a template for a talk dedicated to ethics but since I won't give it until 9 March I have no idea if it sucks or not ;p

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

Sounds awesome! We're still looking for a speaker for April 4, and that sounds like a great fit. Let us know!

Ironholds commented 8 years ago

April 4 would totally work for me, I think! Ethics or the broader working-in-data-science talk?

radaniba commented 8 years ago

These topics sound excellent. I think # 2 would be a very insightful one, for lots of reasons :

May be it is a too personal point of view, @Ironholds can confirm :)

Looking forward to this talk

jennybc commented 8 years ago

@BillMills @minisciencegirl Who's actually in charge here? 😁 Can we consider the April 4th date "booked"? If so, what time?

@Ironholds Can we confirm the votes for topic #2 as the main focus of official talk (and to discuss the subject your recent blog posts afterwards over beer)? I would look forward to hearing and talking more about both.

minisciencegirl commented 8 years ago

Could we do 3 or 4 pm so that we can go for beer right after?? If we are happy with the time, I will post the event and put it in the calendar. So excited to meet @Ironholds in person!

jennybc commented 8 years ago

We might also have another special guest in town (@richfitz) so let's book it for 3:30pm in case I can persuade him to give us a talk (I make no promises!). But if the planets aligned, a 3:30pm start gives a chance to have two ~40 min slots and still go out after around 5pm.

minisciencegirl commented 8 years ago

@jennybc: You are amazing! :heart_eyes: Thank you for bringing in awesome guest speakers.

richfitz commented 8 years ago

I'm happy to do a talk on the 4th if people have the stomach for back to back talks. I don't have a talk on the go at the moment so this is a good opportunity to write one. Some possibilities:

Ironholds commented 8 years ago

Clearly Rich is following me around ;p.

To be totally clear; with 2 we wouldn't be talking about data engineering. More not letting recruiters screw you on salary, and the ethical factors in data collection in those spaces. I'm not sure if that changes the votes.

richfitz commented 8 years ago

Clearly Rich is following me around ;p.

The things I do to repay a lunch.

jooolia commented 8 years ago

Sounds like a cool day. :)

My vote for a talk topic from @richfitz https://github.com/richfitz would be "Tools for collaborative data use". But the other ones sound interesting as well. :)

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Clearly Rich is following me around ;p.

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SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

Can we propose more talks for the same day?

Like a mini-conference?

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I'm happy to do a talk on the 4th if people have the stomach for back to back talks. I don't have a talk on the go at the moment so this is a good opportunity to write one. Some possibilities:

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bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

@jennybc: @minisciencegirl runs the show, I just answer the phone :)

@richfitz: thanks! Those topics are a three-way photo finish for me, but I think collaborative data use might win out for sheer novelty.

@SimonGoring: what did you have in mind? We could do, but then again we're always looking for sessions to fill upcoming slots!

SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

I thought given @Ironholds & @richfitz are presenting we might be able to reach out to other data sci folks in Vancouver, like Tableau or something.

My understanding (?) from @Ironholds & @richfitz's ideas is that they'll be less hands-on workshops and more presentations (but maybe I'm wrong?). If that's the case I could do a run-through of my EarthCube talk about connected data in the Earth Sciences (but only if people are interested).

I wouldn't neccessarily be able to coordinate all the facilities stuff at UBC (since I have no standing there!) but I could see who I could wrangle if other people are interested in helping to set this up.

EDIT: We might be able to talk the SFU folks into joining us too. I don't know who coordinates, but maybe @minisciencegirl could tag them in on this conversation?

minisciencegirl commented 8 years ago

Great ideas @SimonGoring! I am tagging @ttimbers @tinyheero to bring together SFU/BCCA folks.

@BillMills: This could be a great event to host at the Library Commons.

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

Alright, I like it - a little mini Vancouver Data Con could be fun, I might be able to pull in some industry folks, too. @ttimbers @brunogrande @theavanrossum @aliojjati - does sfu want in on this?

ttimbers commented 8 years ago

@minisciencegirl @BillMills a big YES to either the two talks or a mini Vancouver Data Con, I am certain the group at SFU would be happy to participate. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help! Apr 4?

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

@minisciencegirl yes! To the library! Can you coordinate with them while we wrangle speakers? Do we want to shoot for an all day thing, say 10-4 + pub following?

SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

This is great! I think 10 - 4 works well. It's not too long, but long enough to have some good talks.

What do we want to do as far as coffee/lunch goes? Can we wrangle funding from UBC? Should we set up a small planning committee and sketch out options?

@ttimbers @BillMills @minisciencegirl @jennybc (as a faculty contact) & myself? Anyone else?

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

@SimonGoring nominally sounds good, but let's keep it simple for now - maybe a lecture track in the afternoon, a workshop track in the morning, and coffee if someone wants to sponsor. Let's all see who we can pull in and go from there!

SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

@BillMills sure, just wanted to see what people wanted to do & see what kinds of options we wanted to present.

jennybc commented 8 years ago

FWIW @richfitz and I can't necessarily commit beyond the original timeframe discussed way above, as one of the reasons he'll be in town is for us to work on something. But that's great if these two guest talks catalyze something larger.

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

@jennybc @richfitz no problem! Whatever time slot you want works for us :)

pssguy commented 8 years ago

Just a reminder if you are going the miniconference route issue 81

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

@pssguy yes, good idea! Let's see what other talks emerge in the next two weeks before we decide if we want to make this an R exclusive event; if those are the sessions people want to give, then by all means.

pssguy commented 8 years ago

Yes. I guess the subjects would be stretching the R connection a bit

radaniba commented 8 years ago

Aouch, guys it's centered around data science why making it exclusive ? (I don't mind what prog.lang will be used, but you might lose people down the road, no ? )

pssguy commented 8 years ago

@radaniba The miniconference is a way for getting small conferences related to R funded so would prob only be appropriate if the whole session was R related

dhavide commented 8 years ago

I can possibly contribute as a rep from Continuum Analytics (I need to check a few things first). We are primarily a Python shop, but part of the intention of conda and Anaconda is to support data science in any language.

Is there any chance of hosting the event off-campus? I do think a conference with industry-academia data science themes takes on a different flavour on a university campus. I will see if I can help arrange something.

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

Hi @dhavide,

No problem on being a python shop - we do tons of Python at Study Group (despite 'R' in our chapter name), so this is a perfect fit.

Off campus could work, too, since we're pulling in the SFU and BCCA teams as well - perhaps downtown somewhere? Open to suggestions, let us know!

Ironholds commented 8 years ago

This event spiralled somewhat :D.

What's wrong with hosting on-campus? I don't know what "different flavour" means.

jennybc commented 8 years ago

FWIW @richfitz (and I) are much more able to attend if this happens on campus, late on Monday, as per the original plan.

It's beginning to feel like there's a groundswell for something much more ambitious in the medium future that can be multi-language, UBC/SFU, off-campus, etc. Maybe we should decouple these two things?

Ironholds commented 8 years ago

I would support decoupling them, yeah. On-campus would work a bit better for me too.

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

@jennybc @Ironholds sure, no problem - we can definitely keep this low-key and on campus for our guests. @SimonGoring @dhavide, we'd still be delighted to hear from you earlier in the afternoon, if you're interested to come out!

dhavide commented 8 years ago

Okay, I retract my earlier suggestion; let's keep it on campus :)

I'll get back when I know I can commit to coming...

daisieh commented 8 years ago

I am in for this event whatever it is, but obviously I would love for it to be bigger than R.

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

Alright, research commons at Koerner library is in! We've got a room for about 35, so should be good. So, for a schedule, here is a totally unofficial, not-finalized proposal:

With like 5 min breaks in between. I know @jennybc @richfitz @Ironholds are busy most of the day, so of course feel free to drop in only for your talk.

Any comments or requests for the schedule? The library is going to help us promote to try and bring some new people in, so speakers please post a (flexible, totally non-committal) talk title asap so I can get that out to them.

ttimbers commented 8 years ago

This looks awesome! Can't wait!

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Bill Mills notifications@github.com wrote:

Alright, research commons at Koerner library is in! We've got a room for about 35, so should be good. So, for a schedule, here is a totally unofficial, not-finalized proposal:

With like 5 min breaks in between. I think the Mozilla speaker might actually be a lightning talk, so we could wedge a coffee in the middle too. I know @jennybc https://github.com/jennybc @richfitz https://github.com/richfitz @Ironholds https://github.com/Ironholds are busy most of the day, so of course feel free to drop in only for your talk.

Any comments or requests for the schedule? The library is going to help us promote to try and bring some new people in, so speakers please post a (flexible, totally non-committal) talk title asap so I can get that out to them.

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jennybc commented 8 years ago

Thanks @BillMills for organizing us!

Ironholds commented 8 years ago

I'm busy? I've got literally nothing to do in Vancouver except the talk. Well, and maybe a mashup festival.

Looks good!

SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

Ha, this list makes me nervous about presenting :) I think I've got something cool to show though. . .

bkatiemills commented 8 years ago

@SimonGoring, I'm psyched! let me know when your colleague is firmed up - thanks!

SimonGoring commented 8 years ago

I think we ought to know by Wednesday.

minisciencegirl commented 8 years ago

Thanks @BillMills!!