Customizable player evaluation schema

[minj]

Original issue 790 created by CoRrRan on 2011-08-04T14:23:10.000Z:

The HTMS points system doesn't take any distinction into relevancy of certain skills for a certain type of player into account. For example:

Keeper doesn't use skills like scoring/winger/playmaking and a straight-up striker doesn't use defending/keeping.

Now I totally suck @ javascript, but I know what I would like to have: a dropdown box (like the My Monitor does for team-names) with predefined profiles (like the profiles for the TransferList). The user can then create profiles by selecting certain skills for a certain player (I guess it should be possible to use checkboxes for this?):

Keeper - GK + DF straight-up striker - SC+PA+WI etc.

Obviously the effect of a certain skill onto a certain position is also relevant, but this might be something a bit too much. Although the function required to add modifying factors to certain skills, should be easy too.

I've asked taised about this, and he (and his HTMS-colleagues) don't really fancy this, but I think it would be a very welcome addition. It saves me so much trouble putting players in HO or in specific Excel sheets.

[minj]

Comment #1 originally posted by convincedd on 2011-08-04T16:06:33.000Z:

cannot just the top skills be used for playertype determination?

[minj]

Comment #2 originally posted by CoRrRan on 2011-08-04T16:37:05.000Z:

That would be a good start, I guess. But I think that might be prone to errors. Theoretically we could just use the following list, that would also remove the need to have custom filters:

K = KP + DF

CD = DF + PM OCD = DF + PM CDtW = DF + WI + PM

DWB = DF + WI + PM WB = DF + WI + PM OWB = DF + WI + PM WBtM = DF + WI + PM

IM = PM + PA + DF DIM = PM + DF + PA OIM = PM + PA + DF IMtW = PM + WI + PA + DF

W = WI + PM + PA + DF OW = WI + PM + PA + DF DW = WI + PM + DF + PA WtM = PM + WI + PA + DF

FW = SC + PA + WI DFW = SC + PM + PA + WI FWtW = SC + WI + PA

Obviously there are other sub-selections, like CA defenders, who need more PA and tDFW who need more WI.

[minj]

Comment #3 originally posted by ryan on 2011-08-05T17:10:42.000Z:

We shouldn't use HTMS points for this, as HTMS points aims to provide a unified value for ability and potential. With customization comparability will be lost. Build in some formulae like what Hattrick Organizer does, perhaps in the skill table, would be nice. I don't know whether it's allowed, though.

Owner: --- Cc: [ryan](mailto:ryan@ryanium.com)

[minj]

Comment #4 originally posted by CoRrRan on 2011-08-05T17:26:33.000Z:

I think I disagree about the comparability.

Think of it: a manager selects a profile and in the TransferList (preferably the skilltable), this manager will now see a list of players and next to their name, a value indicating the potential of this player. (As well as the ability.) Obviously this value will make no sense without knowing what the criteria were, but for personal use (so not putting it on any of the forum threads) this would be ideal.

Obviously HTMS does a good job at what it does, but I think it is just too rough. If I am looking for 17yo multi-skill midfielder, I have a search for PM=6-8,PA=6-8,DF=6-8. This search result's 'potential' is then 'obstructed' by this player having 7/8 scoring or winger.

[minj]

Comment #5 originally posted by ryan on 2011-08-05T17:29:33.000Z:

I understand what you mean, but HTMS points is just a set of formulae by taised and his colleagues, if we make it customizable it shouldn't be under the name.

[minj]

Comment #6 originally posted by CoRrRan on 2011-08-05T17:46:54.000Z:

Fair point, and I agree.

Any idea if the CHPP license allows for this? It allows for the HTMS, so I guess any alternative would also be allowed?

[minj]

Comment #7 originally posted by ryan on 2011-08-06T07:34:13.000Z:

I think so, but not sure. Anyway this would take time.

[minj]

Comment #8 originally posted by minj on 2014-01-07T18:24:12.000Z:

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Cc: -[ryan](mailto:ryan@ryanium.com) Labels: PlayerDetails

[minj]

could be integrated in #1194