new ratings enhancements

[minj]

Original issue 998 created by convincedd on 2012-08-23T15:17:54.000Z:

From: Ratsia PostID: (15855088.200) Reply: (15855088.198) To: MOD-Djombaslo Datetime: 23.08.2012 at 14:32 Message:

[q] MOD-Djombaslo wrote:

Ratios are in fact much better then just showing the differnece in ratings. But the ultimate thing would be just to show the probability of scoring a goal in that sector. [/q]

Indeed. That's the thing that would most help people to understand what's going on in the match.

It would be ideal if they did it, so that we would not have to rely on 3rd party software to do the conversion for us. As we know that Foxtrick etc. will anyway implement it, there would be three advantages in a proper solution from the developers: 1) It can be made much better-looking, for example so that the probability is also (or solely) illustrated with colors and located in the proper place. 2) It would be accessible for everyone, not just for the managers who are familiar with the addons. 3) It would be more trustworthy for everyone. While the hardcore users know which formulas are accurate and which are not, there are a lot of managers would not thrust a 3rd party software to show the correct figures (which make sense -- we know that for many other things they show incorrect information) even though in this case they would be right.

[minj]

Comment #1 originally posted by minj on 2012-08-23T20:37:51.000Z:

and where exactly can we get a formula for that?

[minj]

Comment #2 originally posted by convincedd on 2012-08-23T21:51:05.000Z:

öhm ususal places i guess. extended manual and stuff.

[minj]

Comment #3 originally posted by convincedd on 2012-08-23T21:51:49.000Z:

needs to wait till hts have settle their design. but we can have a version in svn for testing if we want

[minj]

Comment #4 originally posted by minj on 2012-08-28T20:52:06.000Z:

let's have this ticket for everything we could come up with 0) figure out where to put all ratings-based modules 1) timeline persistent across tabs 2) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 3) scoring probability 4) split player tab in two for home/away 5) better indication of events: different bgs/borders on timeline, sector/player highlighting etc 6) player faces 7) player links to orders tab 8) indicate subed players (with sub time) and highlight player-in/player-out on click 9) better directionality (def/off/tw) 10) change tabs into real links (parse query string or maybe use url#anchors and open tab in question) 11) add number to stamina bar 12) colorize stars based on their count N) save space

[minj]

Comment #5 originally posted by minj on 2012-08-28T20:57:50.000Z:

I'd really like ratings on the report tab, e.g. see (15855088.586)

Plus the sub position idea is also nice in that post (how to visualise it is another question)

[minj]

Comment #6 originally posted by furr68 on 2012-08-29T09:28:33.000Z:

I think I have the correct formula for the scoring. Or we can use the a study from the forums and make a list out of it. Either way we do, it is basically the same.

Another thing I would like to see, that the landing page for the match page is ratings details, not the report page.

[minj]

Comment #7 originally posted by minj on 2012-08-29T11:35:19.000Z:

the default tab feature is #999

[minj]

Comment #8 originally posted by CatzHoek on 2012-08-31T01:16:51.000Z:

From: PostID: (14932093.806) Reply: (14932093.805) To: Datetime: 31.08.2012 at 03:05 Message: [q] CatzHoek schrieb:Not really sure what you mean, does it require HTOpen knowledge to understand?[b]Are you looking for some sort of slider that makes it easier to simplify "sliding" from minute 0 to minute 90/120? As in decreasing the time to go over the development of a match without having to click 18 times?[/b]If so, that's totally a good idea. [/q]Exactly. I want to see a dynamic representation of what happens in the match to the ratings for each sector, whereby simply moving the slider down would show how the ratings change.Just one click and drag.And no, knowledge of HTOpen is of no benefit.

That could actually be quite cool, leaves us back with the need for a decent slider implementation again.

[minj]

Comment #9 originally posted by minj on 2012-08-31T07:44:03.000Z:

From: PostID: (14932093.812) Reply: (14932093.811) To: Datetime: 2012-08-31 at 09:33 Message: [q] LA-MJ rašė:what do you mean by dynamic?we can't create graphs because they will be a supporter feature[b]or do you want ratings in the (old) rating table change when you press on a timeline?[/b] [/q]This one.I imagine a 'slider', or clickable timeline, on the right of the old ratings on Tab 1.It would be veritically placed and have the time elapsing downward. Either click or use the slider to select a time[b][i] to reflect in the old style ratings[/i][/b](which are naturally right there to the left of the slider).Each 5 minute interval would show how the ratings 'evolve', starting from above the average ratings and slowly coming down with stamina as you adjust or click on the 'slider'.That's it. Nothing new, just use the old ratings but 'make them move'. That's what I mean't by 'dynamic'.:-)

[minj]

Comment #10 originally posted by furr68 on 2012-08-31T07:50:43.000Z:

The scoring formula by MrQBuda (15766691.221)

It looks really good.

[minj]

Comment #11 originally posted by minj on 2012-09-03T18:45:35.000Z:

0) solved

10) solved by HTs They also scratched the surface of 5)

[minj]

Comment #12 originally posted by CatzHoek on 2012-09-09T00:14:13.000Z:

people seem to have problems understanding that the home team is always on top. I added a module that puts the team name in the field. (and currently has a teampopupling related bug)

I propose we use that module to develop ideas and mayb split it later or something.

[minj]

Comment #13 originally posted by CatzHoek on 2012-09-14T15:18:26.000Z:

13) Add player specialties again, also, if player is not in the team anymore, use playerdetails to get them for those players, which is currently not happening.

[minj]

Comment #14 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-06T17:11:59.000Z:

1007 has been merged into this issue.

[minj]

Comment #15 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-06T17:14:00.000Z:

1006 has been merged into this issue.

[minj]

Comment #16 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-08T10:36:44.000Z:

I've added sold player specialties. Do you still have that teampopup bug? I thought I saw it as well but can't reproduce it now

[minj]

Comment #17 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-08T15:29:14.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) timeline persistent across tabs 2) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 3) scoring probability (15766691.221) 4) split player tab in two for home/away 5) better indication of events: sector/player highlighting etc 6) player links in orders tab 8) indicate subed players (with sub time) and highlight player-in/player-out on click show position/behaviour changes: this one might be too complext for initial release 9) better directionality (def/off/tw): ANY IDEAS? 10) redirect lineupshortcut 11) add number to stamina bar 12) colorize stars based on their count 13) ratings table slider N) save space

[minj]

Comment #18 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-08T15:30:29.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) timeline persistent across tabs 2) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 3) scoring probability (15766691.221) 4) split player tab in two for home/away 5) better indication of events: sector/player highlighting etc 6) player links in orders tab 7) indicate subed players (with sub time) and highlight player-in/player-out on click show position/behaviour changes: this one might be too complext for initial release 8) better directionality (def/off/tw): ANY IDEAS? 9) redirect lineupshortcut 10) add number to stamina bar 11) colorize stars based on their count 12) ratings table slider N) save space

[minj]

Comment #19 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-14T10:15:17.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) timeline persistent across tabs 2) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 3) scoring probability (15766691.221) 4) split player tab in two for home/away 5) player links in orders tab 6) indicate subed players (with sub time) and highlight player-in/player-out on click show position/behaviour changes: this one might be too complext for initial release (almost done) 7) better directionality (def/off/tw): ANY IDEAS? 8) redirect lineupshortcut 9) colorize stars based on their count. Is it worth doing? The 'old' stars are back 10) ratings table slider N) save space

[minj]

Comment #20 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-14T10:34:16.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) timeline persistent across tabs 2) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 3) scoring probability (15766691.221) 4) split player tab in two for home/away 5) player links in orders tab 6) indicate subed players (with sub time) and highlight player-in/player-out on click show position/behaviour changes: this one might be too complext for initial release (almost done) 7) better directionality (def/off/tw): ANY IDEAS? 8) redirect lineupshortcut 9) ratings table slider N) save space

[minj]

Comment #21 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-14T10:34:59.000Z:

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Status: Started Owner: minj

[minj]

Comment #22 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-18T03:32:47.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) timeline persistent across tabs 2) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 3) scoring probability (15766691.221) 4) split player tab in two for home/away 5) player links in orders tab 6) redirect lineupshortcut 7) ratings table slider N) save space

[minj]

Comment #23 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-20T20:52:20.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) split player tab in two for home/away 2) timeline persistent across tabs 3) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 4) scoring probability (15766691.221) 5) ratings table slider N) save space

[minj]

Comment #24 originally posted by minj on 2012-10-25T00:18:52.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 2) scoring probability (15766691.221) 3) ratings table slider N) save space

[minj]

Comment #25 originally posted by minj on 2013-03-07T19:53:32.000Z:

1025 has been merged into this issue.

[minj]

Comment #26 originally posted by minj on 2013-03-07T19:55:04.000Z:

UPDATE: 1) show difference to the last-viewed time/event (like matchSimulator) 2) scoring probability (15766691.221) 3) ratings table slider 4) Numeric representation of sector ratings in the 'Rating details' tab N) save space

[minj]

Comment #27 originally posted by minj on 2013-09-28T18:52:37.000Z:

67ec14b9a6c375626e2cd91fb8a0349689c40856 r12046 UPDATE: 1) ratings table slider 2) Numeric representation of sector ratings in the 'Rating details' tab N) save space

[minj]

Comment #28 originally posted by minj on 2013-10-07T20:16:25.000Z:

UPDATE:

• [ ] ratings table slider
• [ ] save space

will probably leave these for later releases

[minj]

Comment #29 originally posted by minj on 2014-01-07T19:13:26.000Z:

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Labels: MatchReport

[minj]

Comment #30 originally posted by minj on 2014-02-13T21:07:23.000Z:

Do we really need that slider? Duplicated efforts it seems.

Status: NeedsFeedback

[minj]

Comment #31 originally posted by minj on 2014-06-01T16:13:24.000Z:

player numbers?

[minj]

Comment #32 originally posted by minj on 2014-07-11T20:50:28.000Z:

From: MOD-Nick PostID: (16412248.181) Reply: (16412248.180) To: LA-MJ Datetime: 2014-07-11 2at 1:43 Message: Hi MJ! Do you think it's possible to add hatstats calculation to Rating details tab on Live page?

[minj]

Comment #33 originally posted by minj on 2014-07-25T17:39:55.000Z:

From: a_cardoso PostID: (16412248.178) Reply: (16412248.165) To: LA-MJ Datetime: 2014-07-04 0at 0:18 Message: [q] a_cardoso rašė:

[q] LA-MJ rašė:

and where would you put them? there are already specialty images there

[/q]

• the line bellow the stars, could be divided in two columns, left, bellow the picture the number, and the name to the right.
• the bar that shows on ther right with stamina, in a circle, add just that similar circle but to the left side.
• on hover on player picture, show the number

thanks.

[/q]

any info on this MJ? Did you droped for good? or will at least stay in todo list?

thanks.

[minj]

Comment #34 originally posted by minj on 2014-08-08T08:42:18.000Z:

From: Nuno_Espadinha PostID: (16412248.233) Reply: (16412248.211) To: LA-MJ Datetime: 2014-08-07 2at 3:05 Message: Sugestion/Request: Is there any possible way to make the goalkeeper kit appear different from the rest of the players?? Maybe a general kit for everyone, just to distinguish... probably at the Line Ups because i think it'll be difficult to make it for the players page, even if getting the Category reference..

From: LA-MJ PostID: (16412248.236) Reply: (16412248.235) To: Nuno_Espadinha Datetime: 2014-08-08 1at 0:38 Message: I have no idea about kits. I don't really like the idea because GK outfit should always differ from main team outfit and people can use all sorts of colours. That would mean creating a few different outfits (not really our expertise) and using one based on color difference.

In the end people would start moaning as they always do: this outfit looks terrible blah blah change it NAO blah blah.

TL;DR too much trouble for worth.

Best solution would be to allow people to use the outfit they want by entering an outfit ID in prefs.

[minj]

Comment #35 originally posted by minj on 2014-10-11T18:24:04.000Z:

From: tiztac PostID: (16412248.208) Reply: (16412248.1) To: Everyone Datetime: 2014-07-30 1at 3:03 Message:

Why I can't see my away kit during lineup? I always see home kit.

Thank you.

match-order+mlt

[minj]

Comment #36 originally posted by minj on 2014-10-11T18:28:30.000Z:

From: Domburg86 PostID: (16412248.246) Reply: (16412248.245) To: LA-MJ Datetime: 2014-08-13 1at 7:00 Message: Just a button "Turn Around" is to be used manual, as how I see it.

The default showing will still be home above and away down. But by manual pressing the "Turn Around" button you can switch the teams.

[hr] [q]FoxTrick 0.15.0.13681 beta mozilla - Stage: false - Skin: normal - nl - ltr - 1920 x 1040 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/31.0 - Win32[/q]

not a fan of this tbh

there's already a mechanism to hide one team

[minj]

TODO:

• [ ] ratings table slider
• [ ] save space
• [ ] away kit (+matchorder)
• [ ] custom gk kit (+matchorder)
• [ ] #1439
• [ ] #1202
  • [ ] bookings and goals (with respective minutes) for each player
  • [ ] HT-Live ?

[minj]

extracted 'upside-down' button into #1439

[minj]

needs css-foo