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The example code, doesn't work (hacker news articles) #34

Open moda20 opened 4 months ago

moda20 commented 4 months ago

Hi, i tried the example code to see if the scraper works but it always return a validation error for attribute top which is supposed ton be an array.

here are my example code, a bit tweaked to use local ollama : 

import { chromium } from 'playwright'
import { z } from 'zod'
import LLMScraper from 'llm-scraper'
import { ollama } from 'ollama-ai-provider'

// Launch a browser instance
const browser = await chromium.launch()

// Initialize LLM provider
const llm = ollama('llama3', {

})
llm.config.baseURL = 'http://localhost:7869/api'

// Create a new LLMScraper
const scraper = new LLMScraper(llm)

// Open new page
const page = await browser.newPage()
await page.goto('https://news.ycombinator.com')

// Define schema to extract contents into
const schema = z.object({
    top: z
        .array(
            z.object({
                title: z.string(),
                points: z.number(),
                by: z.string(),
                commentsURL: z.string(),
            })
        )
        .length(5)
        .describe('Top 5 stories on Hacker News'),
})

// Run the scraper
const { data } = await scraper.run(page, schema, {
    format: 'html',
})

// Show the result from LLM
console.log(data.top)

await page.close()
await browser.close()

the error log : 

      error: new TypeValidationError({
             ^

TypeValidationError [AI_TypeValidationError]: Type validation failed: Value: {"title":"Ask HN: Where to find the cheapest proxies for web scraping?","url":"item?id=41023251","points":8,"user":"aw123","time_ago":"3 hours ago","comments_count":2}.
Error message: [
  {
    "code": "invalid_type",
    "expected": "array",
    "received": "undefined",
    "path": [
      "top"
    ],
    "message": "Required"
  }
]
    at safeValidateTypes (file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/node_modules/@ai-sdk/provider-utils/dist/index.mjs:205:14)
    at safeParseJSON (file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/node_modules/@ai-sdk/provider-utils/dist/index.mjs:248:12)
    ... 3 lines matching cause stack trace ...
    at async file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/index.js:39:18 {
  cause: ZodError: [
    {
      "code": "invalid_type",
      "expected": "array",
      "received": "undefined",
      "path": [
        "top"
      ],
      "message": "Required"
    }
  ]
      at get error [as error] (file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/node_modules/zod/lib/index.mjs:587:31)
      at safeValidateTypes (file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/node_modules/@ai-sdk/provider-utils/dist/index.mjs:207:33)
      at safeParseJSON (file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/node_modules/@ai-sdk/provider-utils/dist/index.mjs:248:12)
      at generateObject (file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/node_modules/ai/dist/index.mjs:689:23)
      at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
      at async generateAISDKCompletions (file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/node_modules/llm-scraper/dist/models.js:20:20)
      at async file:///Users/medmansour/Documents/personalProjects/llm-scrapper/index.js:39:18 {
    issues: [
      {
        code: 'invalid_type',
        expected: 'array',
        received: 'undefined',
        path: [ 'top' ],
        message: 'Required'
      }
    ],
    addIssue: [Function (anonymous)],
    addIssues: [Function (anonymous)],
    errors: [
      {
        code: 'invalid_type',
        expected: 'array',
        received: 'undefined',
        path: [ 'top' ],
        message: 'Required'
      }
    ]
  },
  value: {
    title: 'Ask HN: Where to find the cheapest proxies for web scraping?',
    url: 'item?id=41023251',
    points: 8,
    user: 'aw123',
    time_ago: '3 hours ago',
    comments_count: 2
  }
}

the value seems to be returned, but not as top and an array,

mishushakov commented 4 months ago

Please report this issue on Vercel AI SDK: https://github.com/vercel/ai

moda20 commented 4 months ago

@mishushakov why ? is the zod package using the Vercel AI ?

djds4rce commented 1 month ago

The issue here seems to be that the model is not powerfull enough for scraping. I played around for a bit and looks like this is something which will not work yet.

djds4rce commented 1 month ago

This is the PROMPT and response from llama 3.1

{
  content: "JSON schema:\n{\"type\":\"object\",\"properties\":{\"top\":{\"type\":\"array\",\"items\":{\"type\":\"object\",\"properties\":{\"title\":{\"type\":\"string\"},\"points\":{\"type\":\"number\"},\"by\":{\"type\":\"string\"},\"commentsURL\":{\"type\":\"string\"}},\"required\":[\"title\",\"points\",\"by\",\"commentsURL\"],\"additionalProperties\":false},\"minItems\":5,\"maxItems\":5,\"description\":\"Top 5 stories on Hacker News\"}},\"required\":[\"top\"],\"additionalProperties\":false,\"$schema\":\"http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#\"}\nYou MUST answer with a JSON object that matches the JSON schema above.",
  role: "system",
}

{
  content: "You are a sophisticated web scraper. Extract the contents of the webpage",
  role: "system",
}

{
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class=\"hnname\"><a href=\"news\">Hacker News</a></b>\n                            <a href=\"newest\">new</a> | <a href=\"front\">past</a> | <a href=\"newcomments\">comments</a> | <a href=\"ask\">ask</a> | <a href=\"show\">show</a> | <a href=\"jobs\">jobs</a> | <a href=\"submit\" rel=\"nofollow\">submit</a>            </span></td><td style=\"text-align:right;padding-right:4px;\"><span class=\"pagetop\">\n                              <a href=\"login?goto=news\">login</a>\n                          </span></td>\n              </tr></tbody></table></td></tr>\n<tr id=\"pagespace\" title=\"\" style=\"height:10px\"></tr><tr><td><table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n            <tbody><tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41700516\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">1.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41700516\" href=\"vote?id=41700516&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" 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valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41695756\" href=\"vote?id=41695756&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/crystalclear-sound/id6695723746?mt=12\">Show HN: A macOS app to prevent sound quality degradation on AirPods</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=apps.apple.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">apps.apple.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41695756\">57 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=mrtksn\" class=\"hnuser\">mrtksn</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T11:03:10.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41695756\">6 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41695756\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41695756&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41695756\">82&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41671562\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">14.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41671562\" href=\"vote?id=41671562&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/white-strawberry\">The fight to save Chile's white strawberry</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=atlasobscura.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">atlasobscura.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41671562\">45 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=ofou\" class=\"hnuser\">ofou</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-27T15:20:41.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41671562\">4 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41671562\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41671562&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41671562\">10&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41694712\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">15.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41694712\" href=\"vote?id=41694712&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://app.keeptrack.space\">Keep Track: 3D Satellite Toolkit</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=keeptrack.space\"><span class=\"sitestr\">keeptrack.space</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41694712\">113 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=jonbaer\" class=\"hnuser\">jonbaer</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T08:10:12.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41694712\">11 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41694712\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41694712&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41694712\">30&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41698686\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">16.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41698686\" href=\"vote?id=41698686&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://blog.sequinstream.com/at-most-once-at-least-once-and-exactly-once-delivery/\">No such thing as exactly-once delivery</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=sequinstream.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">sequinstream.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41698686\">15 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=todsacerdoti\" class=\"hnuser\">todsacerdoti</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T16:00:17.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41698686\">3 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41698686\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41698686&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41698686\">3&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41695840\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">17.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41695840\" href=\"vote?id=41695840&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://github.com/mediar-ai/screenpipe\">Screenpipe: 24/7 local AI screen and mic recording</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=github.com/mediar-ai\"><span class=\"sitestr\">github.com/mediar-ai</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41695840\">142 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=thunderbong\" class=\"hnuser\">thunderbong</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T11:15:36.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41695840\">8 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41695840\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41695840&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41695840\">86&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41666269\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">18.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41666269\" href=\"vote?id=41666269&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://www.historytoday.com/archive/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds\">Normans and Slavery: Breaking the Bonds</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=historytoday.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">historytoday.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41666269\">92 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=pepys\" class=\"hnuser\">pepys</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-27T04:31:27.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41666269\">9 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41666269\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41666269&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41666269\">52&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41698823\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">19.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41698823\" href=\"vote?id=41698823&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/10/07/dr-calhouns-mousery-lee-alan-dugatkin-book-reviews-rat-city-edmund-ramsden-and-jon-adams\">Two new books on John Calhoun and his rodent experiments</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=newyorker.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">newyorker.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41698823\">67 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=mitchbob\" class=\"hnuser\">mitchbob</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T16:11:52.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41698823\">3 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41698823\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41698823&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41698823\">44&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41699323\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">20.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41699323\" href=\"vote?id=41699323&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://github.com/peer-calls/peer-calls\">Peer Calls: WebRTC peer to peer calls for everyone</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=github.com/peer-calls\"><span class=\"sitestr\">github.com/peer-calls</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41699323\">37 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=yamrzou\" class=\"hnuser\">yamrzou</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T16:51:48.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41699323\">2 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41699323\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41699323&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41699323\">11&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41694504\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">21.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41694504\" href=\"vote?id=41694504&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://ngrok.com/blog-post/how-we-built-ngroks-data-platform\">How we built ngrok's data platform</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=ngrok.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">ngrok.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41694504\">115 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=samber\" class=\"hnuser\">samber</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T07:35:01.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41694504\">12 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41694504\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41694504&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41694504\">32&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41696560\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">22.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41696560\" href=\"vote?id=41696560&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://afewthingz.com/browserbookmark\">The best browser bookmarking system is files</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=afewthingz.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">afewthingz.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41696560\">67 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=josephernest\" class=\"hnuser\">josephernest</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T12:51:44.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41696560\">6 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41696560\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41696560&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41696560\">69&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41693979\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">23.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41693979\" href=\"vote?id=41693979&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://rodneybrooks.com/tips-for-building-and-deploying-robots/\">Tips for Building and Deploying Robots</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=rodneybrooks.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">rodneybrooks.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41693979\">82 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=dannyobrien\" class=\"hnuser\">dannyobrien</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T05:55:51.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41693979\">13 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41693979\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41693979&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41693979\">16&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41698995\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">24.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41698995\" href=\"vote?id=41698995&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://github.com/bndr/pipreqs\">Generate pip requirements.txt file based on imports of any project</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=github.com/bndr\"><span class=\"sitestr\">github.com/bndr</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41698995\">95 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=mooreds\" class=\"hnuser\">mooreds</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T16:26:13.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41698995\">3 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41698995\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41698995&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41698995\">57&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41688469\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">25.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41688469\" href=\"vote?id=41688469&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://mundraub.org/map\">Map with public fruit trees</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=mundraub.org\"><span class=\"sitestr\">mundraub.org</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41688469\">310 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=dschuessler\" class=\"hnuser\">dschuessler</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-29T16:29:36.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41688469\">1 day ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41688469\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41688469&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41688469\">131&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41693087\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">26.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41693087\" href=\"vote?id=41693087&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://simonwillison.net/2024/Sep/29/notebooklm-audio-overview/\">NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=simonwillison.net\"><span class=\"sitestr\">simonwillison.net</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41693087\">765 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=simonw\" class=\"hnuser\">simonw</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T02:58:02.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41693087\">16 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41693087\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41693087&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41693087\">390&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41696434\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">27.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41696434\" href=\"vote?id=41696434&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240905120923.htm\">New research on anesthesia and microtubules gives new clues about consciousness</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=sciencedaily.com\"><span class=\"sitestr\">sciencedaily.com</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41696434\">121 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=isaacfrond\" class=\"hnuser\">isaacfrond</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T12:34:46.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41696434\">7 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41696434\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41696434&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41696434\">142&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41698361\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">28.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41698361\" href=\"vote?id=41698361&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://www.liquid.ai/liquid-foundation-models\">Liquid Foundation Models: Our First Series of Generative AI Models</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=liquid.ai\"><span class=\"sitestr\">liquid.ai</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41698361\">158 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=jasondavies\" class=\"hnuser\">jasondavies</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-30T15:33:30.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41698361\">4 hours ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41698361\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41698361&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41698361\">125&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41688018\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">29.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41688018\" href=\"vote?id=41688018&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span class=\"titleline\"><a href=\"https://gitlab.com/zephray/sitina1\">Sitina1 Open-Source Camera</a><span class=\"sitebit comhead\"> (<a href=\"from?site=gitlab.com/zephray\"><span class=\"sitestr\">gitlab.com/zephray</span></a>)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan=\"2\"></td><td class=\"subtext\"><span class=\"subline\">\n          <span class=\"score\" id=\"score_41688018\">307 points</span> by <a href=\"user?id=zdw\" class=\"hnuser\">zdw</a> <span class=\"age\" title=\"2024-09-29T15:27:54.000000Z\"><a href=\"item?id=41688018\">1 day ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_41688018\"></span> | <a href=\"hide?id=41688018&amp;goto=news\">hide</a> | <a href=\"item?id=41688018\">117&nbsp;comments</a>        </span>\n              </td></tr>\n      <tr class=\"spacer\" style=\"height:5px\"></tr>\n                <tr class=\"athing\" id=\"41691943\">\n      <td align=\"right\" valign=\"top\" class=\"title\"><span class=\"rank\">30.</span></td>      <td valign=\"top\" class=\"votelinks\"><center><a id=\"up_41691943\" href=\"vote?id=41691943&amp;how=up&amp;goto=news\"><div class=\"votearrow\" title=\"upvote\"></div></a></center></td><td class=\"title\"><span 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