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i18n: ใƒŽใƒผใƒˆ as verb and as noun might need to be split #8490

Open outloudvi opened 2 years ago

outloudvi commented 2 years ago

๐Ÿ’ก Summary

The i18n string, note or ใƒŽใƒผใƒˆ, or this Crowdin entry, is used as both a noun ("a note") and a verb ("send a note"), which might cause problems in translating to other languages.

https://github.com/misskey-dev/misskey/blob/16c7ef41fbb440c2c3df680fe17507666472c5d9/locales/ja-JP.yml#L72

For example, the usage here on the title of /notes/:id uses it as a noun, while the usage here on the sidebar button uses it as a verb.

๐Ÿฅฐ Expected Behavior

๐Ÿคฌ Actual Behavior

๐Ÿ“ Steps to Reproduce

  1. Go to /notes/:id.
  2. Check the title text and the sidebar button text.

๐Ÿ“Œ Environment

Misskey version: 12.110.0

tamaina commented 2 years ago

ใจใ‚Šใ‚ใˆใšใ€ŒใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใ€ใƒœใ‚ฟใƒณใฏๅˆฅใซใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ‚ˆใ•ใใ†๏ผŸ

EbiseLutica commented 2 years ago

ๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใงใ‚‚ใ€ŒใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใ€ใฎๅ‹•่ฉž็š„็”จๆณ•ใซใฏ้•ๅ’Œๆ„Ÿใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ไฝ•ใ‹่‰ฏใ„่ชžใŒ็„กใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‹

4ioskd commented 2 years ago

ใ€ŒใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใ€ใจๅŒใ˜ใใ€ไปŠใฏpostใซๅค‰ใ‚ใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ‘ใฉmastodonใงใฎใ€ŒๆŠ•็จฟใ€ใ‚’ๆŒ‡ใ—ใŸใ€Œtootใ€ใฏๅ่ฉžใƒปๅ‹•่ฉž็š„็”จๆณ•ใŒใ‚ใฃใฆใ€ๅ่ฉžใงใฏใ€Œๅฃ็ฌ›๏ผˆใ‚‰ใฃใฑ็ญ‰๏ผ‰ใ‚’ๅนใใ“ใจใ€ใ€ๅ‹•่ฉžใงใฏใ€Œๅฃ็ฌ›๏ผˆใ‚‰ใฃใฑ็ญ‰)ใ‚’ใƒ”ใƒฅใƒผใจๅนใใ€ใงใ™ใ€‚ใ‚ˆใฃใฆใ€็งใฏใ€ŒใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใ€ใง่‰ฏใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใพใ™

(่ฉฑใฏๅค–ใ‚Œใพใ™ใŒiscatใ‚’ๆœ‰ๅŠนใซใ—ใŸใจใใ ใ‘ใ€ใ€ŒใƒŽใƒผใƒˆ(Note)ใ€ใงใฏใชใ็Œซใฎ้ณดใๅฃฐใ€Œใซใ‚ƒใƒผ๏ผ๏ผˆmew!๏ผ‰ใ€ใ€Œใซใ‚ƒใƒผ๏ผ๏ผˆmeow!๏ผ‰ใ€ใซใ—ใŸใ‚‰้ข็™ฝใ„ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ€‚๏ผ‰

ใกใชใฟใซใ€ @robflop ใฏใฉใ†ๆ€ใ†๏ผŸ

outloudvi commented 2 years ago

I think the word note is okay and sounds great!

As of the strings, for example, Mastodon is using different entries for the noun post and the verb toot (The compose_form.publish_loud is used when the visibility is public).

robflop commented 2 years ago

In english I can't think of any instances where it causes any problem right now as the noun and verb are spelled exactly the same (to note, a note - as mentioned in previous posts), so that seems fine to me.

In german for example however this can (and does actually) cause problems, yea. There, the noun is "Notiz", but the verb is "notieren". The post button currently just says "Notiz" in german which makes no sense.

I think splitting at least the string on the posting button would be a good idea. The term "Note" (or rather, ใ€ŒใƒŽใƒผใƒˆใ€) is quite fundamental in a lot of Misskey documentation (one of the first phrases you'll see in the introductory text is "A network connected by notes", for example) so I don't know whether changing that would be a good idea - I think I'd prefer switching the verb to be "posting" and posts remaining as notes, if such a change is being considered.