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mitradranirban / OpenNagMundari

Open Source font for NagMundari Script
SIL Open Font License 1.1
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Could you help me? #2

Open Mercury13 opened 2 years ago

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

I’m the author of Unicodia, encyclopedia of Unicode characters. I’m drawing a simple but hand-drawn Nag. Of course, I don’t know language, so if anyone knows, together we can make a working font, not just a sample for Unicodia. image

mitradranirban commented 2 years ago

I also do not know the language, but I know it is alphabetic, and like Ol Chiki, and no complex font is required for rendering

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

I have already made characters up to E6.

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

Here’s my description of Nag — is it correct?

Non-written Austro-Asian (not Indo-European) language. According to 2011 census, 1.1 million people in India speak Mundari and 500 thousand more speak some Munda — it’s unknown whether it is the same language.

Writing systems are Odia, Devanagari, Bengali, Latin — but phonemes are exotic for Latin, and abugidas badly suit Austro-Asian languages. No wonder Rohidas Singh Nag invented a new alphabet in 1949, and it even took root. About 1982 he shortened the alphabet to 27 characters and showed to local authorities, and reformed in 2008.

Digits are own. Punctuation is European.

mitradranirban commented 2 years ago

I have created all the glyphs fot code points of NagMundari by scanning the unicode code table. You can check the glyph pictures in Glyphlist folder. My font contain all the code points of NagMundari, created by autotracing the glyph pictures.

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

I tried your font, that’s easier of course. But looks, excuse me, like hell, that’s why started to make my own.

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

image Finally made, that’s enough for Unicodia. But maybe we’ll make a working font? — with correct tracking/kerning, laying marks and so on.

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

You don’t lay marks either, here’s your way of laying marks. image

mitradranirban commented 2 years ago

I also do not know the language, but I know it is alphabetic, and like Ol Chiki, and no complex font is required for rendering

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I’m the author of Unicodia, encyclopedia if Unicode characters. I’m drawing a simple but hand-drawn Nag.

Of course, I don’t know language, so if anyone knows, together we can make a working font.

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Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

image I changed NOTHING (got heavy flu, no desire to work), just added a small HTML test.

  1. We’ve got a different approach to prime. I made it spacing, and yours is non-spacing. Which is correct?
  2. I need to move umlauts further from line.
  3. As umlauts are rare, my “default” placement of dots and tildes is rather acceptable.
  4. Your line height and placement of umlauts is hell horrible.
  5. My tracking initially was too tight, and afterwards I made it better.
  6. If I find out how anchors work, I’ll put TR dot better.
  7. Dislike curving of D5 (3 with tail), EA (2 with vertical stroke).
  8. Replace tilde from Serif… at least with tilde from Sans!
Mercury13 commented 2 years ago
  1. What about your umlauts… upper dot and prime are too far, lower mid dot goes to the previous character, and tilde is OK. Font’s ascent is surely too low.
Mercury13 commented 2 years ago
  1. A special style of text was invented for homemade game typography engines that do not do tracking/kerning right (e.g. Supergiant Games’ “Bastion”): the letters are not aligned, and no matter how it tracks/kerns. This is your case.
Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

Managed to track it somehow and hand-anchor lower umlaut: image

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

As I know now how to anchor marks, I hand-anchored top-right dot for a few characters: image

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

About prime: there are not so many post-reform primes, but it’s probably spacing. Pre-reform prime looked like actual mathematical prime.

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

What else? Moved prime upwards. Slight auto-kerning. RLIG E0+ED because of kerning glitches.

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

Go download what I’ve done, I have not finished yet!

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

So you see what makes a working font rather than collection of glyphs!

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

I stopped at six RLIGs right now, all relate to the case when the entire prime (more precisely, its advance width) is within main character’s advance width. It would be nice to turn a spacing prime to a mark, but IDK right now how to do. Replaced and anchored tilde.

Mercury13 commented 2 years ago

I won’t fix my Nag anymore, here’s what I’ve done. image