What do we want to track as "flavor"?

[pscn]

Maybe add short fills/premade juice to the DB as well?

One of the points Wayne made in his video was how beginner friendly a site is. I think if we include short fills and premade juice, we can easily present a new mixer with some options for his favorite premade juice. Like: people who like "Mother's Milk" mix the following recipes.

But: that would essentially make us a site for rating premade juice. And the catalog for premade juice is huge and growing daily. That's why I'd suggest to only add concentrates to the DB right now.

[Korlimann]

That's something that could be useful and very attractive to people new to mixing. I think that's something we could try and include, but is rather low-prio

[ayan4m1]

I think there are a few different thing going on here:

• Finding similar recipes - this can be tackled at least two ways, either by directly comparing recipes for similarity or using a clustering algorithm and is very similar to #21
• A "People who like..." system - to me the essence of this is aggregating high-rating reviews from users who rate this recipe highly, this is similar to #21 but relies on ratings/reviews whereas the first point does not
• Whether or not to store one-shot/concentrates as "flavors" - to me this is the heart of this issue.

For simple use cases, I can't think of a reason for keeping one-shots out of the list of flavors. However, I think that it would be prudent to try and model one-shots as a type of recipe with an unknown ingredient list rather than assume we want to mix all of our "real" flavors together with a huge list of derivatives that aren't necessarily in the spirit of the open source recipe site we're trying to build.

[daviddyess]

On one of the subreddit posts, someone mentioned additives for flavor/stashes. I can see the benefit, but it seems muddy. At least one shots have an actual vendor and associative data. It's getting to the point where even the concentrates are more geared toward a profile than a single flavor, like CAP Strawberries and Cream. Liquid Barn's Vanilla Bean Ice Cream is technically a one shot and it's in a ton of recipes. It may be worth adding a categorization at the makeup level, like 1 is a flavor concentrate, 2 is a one shot, 3 is an additive, 4 is something else, etc. I don't want to muddy the data, but some simple info may become useful

[pscn]

When I started with DIY I used mostly "one shots", although that name did not exist back than AFAIR. Stuff like Twisted Vaping or Dark Burner (both links point to German sites) which are essentially one shots.

This stuff is usually pretty good and very famous in Germany. I suspect that's why "mixing by recipe" didn't gain big traction here. The big thing here is to figure out at which percentage these work best and how long the steep time is.

So: I like the option to categorize flavors, but I'm not to happy with the naming.

1. That's a general gripe I have with calling everything "flavor": I think what we mean to say is "concentrate" as it is all something that you can not vape without adding at least some base. A "concentrate" can than have a "flavor". Not sure if that's to nit picky or if that could help prevent misunderstandings in the future.
2. For the category I would suggest names like: Single flavor, Mixed flavor, Additive, Other