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Add Grapnel to Plants Theme #168

Closed DalenWBrauner closed 4 years ago

DalenWBrauner commented 4 years ago

https://www.kryxrpg.com/themes/spells/grapnel In response to #167, if vines can help grab onto you and surfaces to help you climb around a space, then they should also be able to allow you to grab a single surface for less mana.

mlenser commented 4 years ago

Grapnel would have a very different flavor in Plants (using vines, not a grapnel).

shemetz commented 4 years ago

So make it a new but almost identical spell?

Ivy Whip (1 mana, Plants) concentration, 1 minute/mana

As a bonus action, vines extend from your outstretched arm. Until the spell ends, you can cause the vines to lash at a target on each of your turns as an action. Make a ranged spell attack against a creature, object, or structure you can see within 35 meters.

Creature. On a hit, the target must succeed on a Reflex saving throw or be pulled up to 9 meters toward you. A Large or larger creature has advantage on this saving throw. If the creature is willing, it can allow itself to be pulled. If a creature is grappled by your vine you can use your action to pull it up to 9 meters toward you.

Unattended Object. On a hit, an unattended object is pulled up to 9 meters towards you; if this moves it into your square, you may grasp the item, although you must have a free hand to do so.

Structure. If you target an immovable object (such as an object bolted to the floor, a building wall, floor, or ceiling), you can move up to 18 meters towards the target. If you end your movement at a climbable location (such as a wall or ledge), you can attempt an Athletics check to grab hold (or pull yourself over the edge, in the case of a ledge). If you fail that check you begin falling. You can move yourself up to 18 meters as an action on your turn.

A miss causes the grapnel to retract instantly without attaching to anything.

If you pull yourself towards a structure while grappled, any creature that is grappling you must succeed on a Reflex saving throw or be forced to release the grapple or be moved with you (your choice). On a success the creature can prevent you from moving.

You can cause the vines to release at any time (no action required by you). They retract instantly.

(note - I partially edited the wording of the Grapnel spell to fix what I believe to be typos)

mlenser commented 4 years ago

This is a grapnel image

Totally different to create one of those instead of As a bonus action, vines extend from your outstretched arm. as you wrote above. Quite similar in mechanics, but different in flavor

DalenWBrauner commented 4 years ago

Oh, I didn't realize that word was a real noun. Back when this was in the ectoplasm theme, I just imagined goo, basically. That's partly why the vines fit so well.

That said, I think we could call Itmarcu's suggestion 'Vine Grapnel' and be done.

shemetz commented 4 years ago

how about calling it "Ivy Whip"?

DalenWBrauner commented 4 years ago

It's more about grappling than whipping- whip exists as a weapon but it doesn't grant you anything like this. Grappling Ivy or Grappling Vine (ala Grappling Hook) might be better.

DalenWBrauner commented 4 years ago

This is me just reposting what @itamarcu wrote, cleaning up one or two things (and foolishly eschewing the metric system). I don't think it needs any other changes, and I don't feel strongly about the name.

Ivy Whip or Grappling Vine (1 mana, Plants) concentration, 1 minute/mana

As a bonus action, vines extend from your outstretched arm. Until the spell ends, you can cause the vines to lash out at a target on each of your turns as an action. Make a ranged spell attack against a creature, object, or structure you can see within 120 feet. Creature. On a hit, the target must succeed on a Reflex saving throw or be pulled up to 30 feet toward you. A Large or larger creature has advantage on this saving throw. If the creature is willing, it can allow itself to be pulled. If a creature is grappled by your ivy whip / grappling vine you can use your action to pull it up to 30 feet toward you. Unattended Object. On a hit, an unattended object is pulled up to 30 feet towards you; if this moves it into your square, you may grasp the item, although you must have a free hand to do so. Surface. If you target an immovable object (such as an object bolted to the floor, a building wall, floor, or ceiling), you can move up to 60 feet towards the target. If you end your movement at a climbable location (such as a wall or ledge), you can attempt an Athletics check to grab hold (or pull yourself over the edge in the case of a ledge). If you fail that check you begin falling. You can move yourself up to 60 feet as an action on your turn. A miss causes the ivy whip / grappling vine to retract instantly without attaching to anything. If you pull yourself towards a surface while being grappled, any creature that is grappling you must succeed on a Reflex saving throw or be forced to release the grapple. On a success, the creature can prevent you from moving. You can cause the vines to release at any time (no action required by you). They retract instantly.