Consider adding the freedom theme

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Consider adding the freedom theme #911

Closed mlenser closed 3 years ago

mlenser commented 3 years ago

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/domains/paizo-domains/liberation-domain

shemetz commented 3 years ago

I think "freedom"/"liberation" theme doesn't make sense unless "offense" or "mobility" or "buffs" are themes. It seems very mechanical to me, instead of flavorful. I think many of these spells fit Antimagic and Holy/Life, and I can't imagine a mage that specializes in "freedom spells". Maybe Abjuration is flavorful for some worlds with magical schools, but it would include a lot of spells that are already covered.

Marcloure commented 3 years ago

On the other hand, I can totaly see a monk or rogue that focuses on never being stopped or pinned down.

Marcloure commented 3 years ago

On the other hand, I can totaly see a monk or rogue that focuses on never being stopped or pinned down.

Actually, wouldn't hit and run be just skirmish?

DalenWBrauner commented 3 years ago

While I love some of the concepts here, I'm also not convinced they would avoid overlap with existing themes.

"Liberation magic" is cool, but removing curses and debuffs from magical sources feels an awful lot like antimagic.
"Movement magic" is cool, but I'm not sure how to differentiate it between either Telekinesis (allowing other things to move) or Metabolism (altering your own ability to move)

But I also think Marcloure is on a good track- this seems like it would make for a great subclass, to borrow from existing themes and combine parts of them into a new concept.

mlenser commented 3 years ago

I think "freedom"/"liberation" theme doesn't make sense unless "offense" or "mobility" or "buffs" are themes.

Mobility is a theme, but just for maneuvers. Skirmish.

Actually, wouldn't hit and run be just skirmish?

Exactly.

https://github.com/mlenser/kryx-rpg-issues/issues/156 talks about these generic maneuver themes and this thread points out what can be problematic about Skirmish as a theme.

mlenser commented 3 years ago

Not going to add a freedom theme.