[Feature Request] Alternative to Discord

[Soundtoxin]

Request

I would like to see an alternative to Discord for official communications regarding mojo. Something that is free as in freedom like IRC, XMPP, or Matrix.

Motivation

Discord is not a good platform for discussion of a programming language, and will scare off potential users who refuse to use it on principle.

Description and Requirements

As a minimum you could bridge the existing Discord chat to some of the other free protocols listed above, with a channel on Libera for the IRC side, but I think it's worth giving some thought to moving entirely off of Discord as well. Even with a bridge, users from the other side are having things they say show up on Discord where the data will be in the hands of the Discord employees/moderators.

[locnnil]

@Soundtoxin Actually, nowdays Discord is pretty much popular amoung Open Source development. This Discord Site talks about some big communities that discuss about their projects on Discord.

There are others projects like:

• Rust
• Rabbit MQ
• NodeJS
• Angular
• React And many others.

I think that maybe a complementar alternative to Mojo would be a subreddit or a Forum dedicated website.

[Soundtoxin]

I don't believe following in the footsteps of others who made the same mistake justifies it. Discord is centralized and proprietary, a big regression from chat protocols we already had in the past. The number of similar communities on IRC (many programming languages, GNU/Linux distros, and other free software projects) and Matrix is significant as well. With Mojo being so early in development, I think there's still time to correct this mistake. If too much time passes it will be difficult to move the community. I personally can't imagine using Mojo if the main place to ask for help and talk to the community is on Discord, which I will not be using.

[lattner]

WE discussed this and opened github forums for more structured discussions. Right now, we're overwhelmed with all the things so I don't think we're looking to add /more/ options, but I defer to @goldiegadde

FYI, many Moduler's are out on holiday for the rest of the week.

[Soundtoxin]

A forum is a good idea, neither Discord nor the chats I've mentioned are a replacement for a forum, though, so ideally there would be both still. GNU Guix has a channel on the Libera IRC network as well as a mailing list, and it strikes a nice balance. A forum is a bit like the mailing list half of that. Pine64 also has both a forum and IRC (bridged to other chat protocols like Matrix, Discord, Telegram).

No rush, and thank you for your time so far. I just learned of Mojo recently and wanted to bring this idea up ASAP when I saw in the readme and FAQ that Discord was being used. I do understand that it's unlikely the project will change, but better to put in my two cents before things are too cemented for there to even be a chance.

[Mogball]

We opened up github discussions. Other than that, I'm closing this for now

[goldiegadde]

Thanks for the feedback, please check out Mojo GitHub Discussions as mentioned, also mentioned in our FAQ about Mojo community.