Closed Bryannavanhoute closed 1 year ago
Based on the definitions, I don't think that 'lissencephaly 4' (MONDO:0013527) and 'NDE1-related microhydranencephaly' (MONDO:0011504). When these diseases include "microcephaly" among their features/symptoms, I don't know that they are "microcephaly". Also: microcephaly is a "neurodevelopmental disorder", but these terms suggested children terms are "cerebral malformation". Is that correct? Should microcephaly be a "cerebral malformation" instead of a "neurodevelopmental disorder"? @nicolevasilevsky, what do you think?
The experts in the Brain Malformations GCEP requested that this be considered a type of microcephaly. I am happy to connect you with one of our chairs via email, but they are not on GitHub. Let me know if you'd like me to make that connection.
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Based on the definitions, I don't think that 'lissencephaly 4' (MONDO:0013527) and 'NDE1-related microhydranencephaly' (MONDO:0011504). When these diseases include "microcephaly" among their features/symptoms, I don't know that they are "microcephaly". Also: microcephaly is a "neurodevelopmental disorder", but these terms suggested children terms are "cerebral malformation". Is that correct? Should microcephaly be a "cerebral malformation" instead of a "neurodevelopmental disorder"? @nicolevasilevskyhttps://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnicolevasilevsky&data=05%7C01%7Ceriggs%40geisinger.edu%7C4ca41af0cfaf47d4ef0108dac1e50424%7C37d46c567c664402a16055c2313b910d%7C0%7C0%7C638035486621071600%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=mFNzgmqe%2FDqAAgmkvXyqX6trcbe8s%2Fiv79VDFzHVtRg%3D&reserved=0, what do you think?
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Hi @ErinRiggs discussing with the experts over email sounds like the best next step, thank you!
per email, I think this is what we want:
yellow= new class
For the record (relevant information from the email - copied and pasted)
Question: Based on the definitions, we are unsure if 'lissencephaly 4' (MONDO:0013527) and 'NDE1-related microhydranencephaly' (MONDO:0011504) are a type of Microcephaly with lissencephaly and/or hydranencephaly. While these diseases include "microcephaly" among their features/symptoms, I don't know that they are a "microcephaly". In an ontology, any child term must inherit all of the features of the parent term. Also: microcephaly is a "neurodevelopmental disorder", but this ticket suggests that the children terms are "cerebral malformation". Is that correct? Should microcephaly be a "cerebral malformation" instead of a "neurodevelopmental disorder"?
We reviewed this ticket today and understood there to be outstanding questions, but see it has been closed. Has everything been resolved?
@sabrinatoro reopening - please let us know if everything is resolved and if yes, please close. thanks!
@Bryannavanhoute Thank you for checking. I believe all the questions were answered. In order for the new term to be correct ontologically, I reviewed and updated the classification of the term "microencephaly". So everything is fine, and this issue can be closed.
Preferred term label: Microcephaly with lissencephaly and/or hydranencephaly
Synonyms
Definition (free text, please give PubMed ID, if applicable, in format PMID:#######) A brain disorder caused by biallelic variants in NDE1 that is characterized by extreme microcephaly (typically head circumference of more than 10 standard deviations (SD) below the mean), profound motor and intellectual disability, spasticity, and incomplete cerebral formation. Radiologic studies demonstrate overt microcephaly with cortical dysgenesis ranging from simplification to pachygyria/lissencephaly to hydranencephaly. Agenesis of the corpus callosum as well as hypoplasia of the brainstem and cerebellum are typically present. (PMIDs 21529751, 22526350)
Parent term (use OLS, or your favorite ontology browser) Microcephaly MONDO: 0001149
Children terms (if applicable) Should any existing terms that should be moved underneath this new proposed term? Lissencephaly 4 and Microhydranencephaly
Your nano-attribution (ORCID) If you don't have an ORCID, you can sign up for one here Requested by the ClinGen Brain Malformations GCEP (https://www.clinicalgenome.org/affiliation/40020/)
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