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Reconciling OMIA and VBO dog breed names #111

Open katiermullen opened 11 months ago

katiermullen commented 11 months ago

While building the dog breed branch of VBO, several breeds were noted to have OMIA has the sole source of breed name. @franknic has reviewed those concepts.

He has made comments on which concepts should be merged and which terms are candidates for obsoletion due to "domain entity does not exist."

See google sheet for detailed descriptions.

katiermullen commented 10 months ago

Further information on Kelpie-related breeds from @franknic is here:

Kelpie breeds in VBO (Based on information obtained from Professor Claire Wade)


In essence, there are two breeds, both of which are recognised in more than one country:

  1. Australian Kelpie

  2. Working Kelpie


Australian Kelpie https://dogsaustralia.org.au/members/breeds/breed-standards/Australian-Kelpie Dogs Australia is the new name for Australian National Kennel Council (ANKC)
  FCI 293: https://www.fci.be/Nomenclature/Standards/293g01-en.pdf  
  https://www.ukcdogs.com/australian-kelpie  
  https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/australian-kelpie/  
  https://www.ckc.ca/en/Choosing-a-Dog/Choosing-a-Breed/Herding-Dogs/Australian-Kelpie  
Working Kelpie http://www.wkc.org.au/ This is a distinct breed, based on performance rather than show type. On its website, the Working Kelpie Council of Australia (WKC) describes itself as the “Breed Society for the Australian Working Kelpie”. So, a definite synonym is Australian Working Kelpie.
  https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/working-kelpie/  

Kelpie breeds in VBO (Based on information obtained from Professor Claire Wade)

In essence, there are two breeds, both of which are recognised in more than one country: Australian Kelpie Working Kelpie

Australian Kelpie https://dogsaustralia.org.au/members/breeds/breed-standards/Australian-Kelpie Dogs Australia is the new name for Australian National Kennel Council (ANKC)

FCI 293: https://www.fci.be/Nomenclature/Standards/293g01-en.pdf

https://www.ukcdogs.com/australian-kelpie

https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/australian-kelpie/

https://www.ckc.ca/en/Choosing-a-Dog/Choosing-a-Breed/Herding-Dogs/Australian-Kelpie

Working Kelpie http://www.wkc.org.au/ This is a distinct breed, based on performance rather than show type. On its website, the Working Kelpie Council of Australia (WKC) describes itself as the “Breed Society for the Australian Working Kelpie”. So, a definite synonym is Australian Working Kelpie.

https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/working-kelpie/

The reality is that the word “Kelpie” is used in practice as a synonym for both of the above breeds. We are aware that it may not be possible to have the same synonym for more than one breed in VBO.

How to translate the existing five VBO Kelpie entries to reflect the above reality?

    Synonyms
Australian Kelpie (Dog)VBO:0200090 Retain Kelpie
Working Kelpie (Dog)VBO:0201434 Retain Kelpie|Australian Working Kelpie
Kelpie (Dog)VBO:0200760 Obsolete  
Australian Working Kelpie (Dog)VBO:0200099 Obsolete  
Kelpie, Australia (Dog)VBO:0007998 Change to “Australian Kelpie, Australia”OR Obsolete, because to be consistent, we would have to add other breed-country entries for Australian Kelpie (Dog)VBO:0200090 and for Working Kelpie (Dog)VBO:0201434  


katiermullen commented 10 months ago

@franknic Thank you for the Kelpie information.

One question - for the DAD-IS national breed:

Kelpie, Australia (Dog), VBO:0007998, a synonym listed on DAD-IS is Australian Working Kelpie.

Does this mean that the national breed should actually be called "Working Kelpie, Australia (Dog)", VBO:0007998? (i.e. does the DAD-IS breed refer to the working kelpie?)

franknic commented 10 months ago

Thank you very much, Katie, for uploading all this information. As you can see, it is not straightforward! The DADIS entry, in effect, says that there is just one population of Kelpies in Australia, with most-common-name = Kelpie and Other-name/synonym = Australian Working Kelpie. Unfortunately, this does not correspond to reality. There are actually two populations of Kelpies in Australia, the official names (recognised internationally) being Australian Kelpie (VBO:0200090) and Working Kelpie (VBO:0201434). The word "Kelpie" is used as a synonym for both of these populations; the words "Australian Working Kelpie" are used as a synonym for the second of these two populations, i.e. as a synonym for Working Kelpie (VBO:0201434). If we wish to have Kelpie dogs represented at the national level for Australia, we need to create two Australian national entries, namely Australian Kelpie, Australia AND Working Kelpie, Australia. The sources for these two entries would be the Australian websites mentioned above. If feasible, the existing VBO national entry Kelpie, Australia (Dog)VBO:0007998 could be changed to one of the two options immediately above. If this is not possible, this entry should be obsoleted. I hope this is helpful. If you have any questions, I shall do my best to answer them.

katiermullen commented 10 months ago

For the moment, we will leave the DADIS-origin breed as is.

@franknic and @ImkeTammen will confer with experts regarding the decision of whether or not the DADIS breed should be split into "Australian Kelpie, Australia" and "Working Kelpie, Australia".

katiermullen commented 7 months ago

@franknic Please use this updated dog breed spreadsheet to reconcile OMIA and VBO IDs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t23p7TKd-fmL7mmnwVlPncnG4xiqysABRcBsjoaNA84/edit#gid=0

You will find the OMIA ID's in column "CN".

Please let me know if you have questions or comments!

franknic commented 7 months ago

Thank you very much, Katie It's all now done.