Closed ImkeTammen closed 7 months ago
After further research just wondering if we should rename the 'Blackhead Persian' transboundary (VBO_0001339) to ' Persian' in recognition that there are two types: "two basic varieties: harlequin (or speckled ) and kleur kop (which means ‘coloured head’)" https://hooggekraal.co.za/persian-sheep-from-south-africa-for-export/ and then add the newly created Persian sheep (Australia) as a child to this transboundary.
Imke and I have discussed this today. The biological reality around the world is that Blackhead is just one variety of Persian sheep, e.g. https://southafrica.co.za/breeds-sheep-meat-south-africa.html. In the past it has been by far the most common type in most, if not all, countries, which explains why the transboundary name has been "Blackhead Persian". Now, however, it is the minority phenotype in countries like Australia (See, e.g. https://www.australianpersiansheepassociation.com/australian-persian-sheep-association-show-champions.html). The best strategy is to do as Imke has suggested, namely to retain VBO:001339 as the transboundary id but to change its name from "Blackhead Persian" to "Persian". So, the recommendations are:
@ImkeTammen @franknic Thank you for your input!
We are trying to avoid adding additional breed_country terms in VBO unless they originate from DAD-IS, where terms are clearly defined by breed, country and species.
It appears that the Persian sheep in Australia were imported as embryos https://www.australianpersiansheepassociation.com/australian-persian-sheep-association-importation-into-australia.html so they may not be distinct from Persian sheep in other countries.
I can add a grouping term, "Persian (Sheep)" and children will be:
You can then annotate your data with the new VBO ID for "Persian (Sheep)".
Discussed at VBO call on 2023-09-07:
I am trying to add a VBO ID to a paper for Persian sheep in Australia.
There is an entry for this in DADIS https://www.fao.org/dad-is/browse-by-country-and-species/en/ but I couldn't find one in VBO (and here is the link to the Australian breed society: https://www.australianpersiansheepassociation.com/)
It looks to me that the transboundary 'Blackheaded Persian' VBO_0001339 sheep is not a fit as transboundary for Persian sheep in Australia, as it is to narrow (the Australian ones are not all blackheaded) - and in DADIS Persian sheep in Australia don't have a transboundary link. There are a few other 'Persian' sheep country breeds listed under VBO_0001339 - not sure if they are all blackheaded or if a new 'Persian' transboundary VBO in addition to a Persian sheep (Australia) VBO.
Imke
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