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1 year ago Logs of January 14th meeting:
[2023-01-14T18:01:13.065Z] <Stnby[m]> Greetings :)
[2023-01-14T18:01:32.457Z] <monerobull[m]1> Hello
[2023-01-14T18:01:32.714Z] <ajs_[m]> hello
[2023-01-14T18:01:37.972Z] <Siren[m]> hi
[2023-01-14T18:01:43.964Z] <Annesheher[m]> Hello!
[2023-01-14T18:01:44.410Z] <ceetee[m]> hello
[2023-01-14T18:01:45.481Z] <jwinterm[m]> Hi
[2023-01-14T18:01:45.783Z] <ajs_[m]> agenda: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/771
[2023-01-14T18:01:48.597Z] <msvb-lab> Hello.
[2023-01-14T18:01:55.342Z] <franciscom[m]> Hello
[2023-01-14T18:01:55.722Z] <Lovera[m]> Hi 👋🏻
[2023-01-14T18:02:55.618Z] <dadajo[m]1> hi
[2023-01-14T18:03:10.533Z] <blankpage[m]> Hello
[2023-01-14T18:03:52.528Z] <ajs_[m]> full house today
[2023-01-14T18:03:59.135Z] <ajs_[m]> great we lots of things to cover
[2023-01-14T18:04:07.584Z] <MajesticBank> hey
[2023-01-14T18:04:22.678Z] <ajs_[m]> i hope everyone had a nice holiday break
[2023-01-14T18:04:36.950Z] <ajs_[m]> Update on CCS
[2023-01-14T18:04:54.724Z] <ajs_[m]> the funds has been released and converted into EUR by DR
[2023-01-14T18:05:18.331Z] <ajs_[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/362#note_20174
[2023-01-14T18:05:30.656Z] <ajs_[m]> Received 553.67 from CCS
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[2023-01-14T18:05:37.341Z] <ajs_[m]> Converted 470.77 XMR to 65k EUR. Avg price: 138.07 EUR / XMR
[2023-01-14T18:05:42.240Z] <plowsof11> hi
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[2023-01-14T18:05:50.451Z] <ajs_[m]> 57k EUR ready for main conference budget. 8k EUR for speakers wishing to be reimbursed in XMR (these 8k EUR will be converted back to XMR shortly before use)
[2023-01-14T18:05:56.809Z] <ajs_[m]> The remaining (82.89 XMR) sent to General Fund
[2023-01-14T18:06:43.736Z] <ajs_[m]> since the CCS got funded in 8 days, we didn't need the 20% volatility buffer
[2023-01-14T18:07:05.386Z] <ajs_[m]> the difference was returned back to the General Fund
[2023-01-14T18:07:26.803Z] <ajs_[m]> any questions, comments on this issue?
[2023-01-14T18:07:47.605Z] <nioc> is the xmr sent back to the general fund be earmarked for the next monerokon?
[2023-01-14T18:08:11.764Z] <nioc> *will the
[2023-01-14T18:08:26.979Z] <Lovera[m]> nioc: It wouldn’t be a bad idea…
[2023-01-14T18:08:29.645Z] <MajesticBank> the general fund donated 100xmr in first place as I recall
[2023-01-14T18:08:46.805Z] <plowsof11> can confirm - the 82 xmr returning to the GF caused a stir on twitter
[2023-01-14T18:08:50.648Z] <Stnby[m]> MajesticBank: *110.8 XMR
[2023-01-14T18:09:06.094Z] <nioc> yes but the original prposal said that any overage would be used for future monerokons
[2023-01-14T18:09:23.179Z] <Siren[m]> I remember that too
[2023-01-14T18:09:39.856Z] <ajs_[m]> "these funds will be used to support future editions of Monerokon"
[2023-01-14T18:10:24.564Z] <ajs_[m]> Update on CfP proposals
[2023-01-14T18:10:33.641Z] <ajs_[m]> the call CfP is here https://cfp.monerokon.com/2023/cfp
[2023-01-14T18:10:39.991Z] <nioc> thanks, I didn't see that in bF comment
[2023-01-14T18:10:53.285Z] <nioc> on the CCS
[2023-01-14T18:10:57.759Z] <ajs_[m]> please share with people you think would be a good fit for speaking at monerokon
[2023-01-14T18:11:16.844Z] <ajs_[m]> we need to be very proactive in seeking speakers
[2023-01-14T18:11:37.282Z] <ajs_[m]> especially potential speakers based in Europe
[2023-01-14T18:11:52.186Z] <Stnby[m]> We with Siren will probably also sign up for a talk
[2023-01-14T18:12:20.032Z] <ajs_[m]> we have 13 proposals in
[2023-01-14T18:12:20.951Z] <Stnby[m]> s/We/Me/
[2023-01-14T18:12:22.367Z] <MajesticBank> male or female also? would be interesting to see
[2023-01-14T18:12:51.263Z] <blankpage[m]> What are good places to find potential speakers? Monerotalk guests maybe?
[2023-01-14T18:13:11.859Z] <ajs_[m]> some interesting topics
[2023-01-14T18:13:12.691Z] * ajs_[m] uploaded an image: (81KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/GzSETBYVUaVoSFGKiDdnQsTp/image.png >
[2023-01-14T18:14:22.345Z] <ajs_[m]> blankpage: the idea is wait until after closing of CfP to select speakers
[2023-01-14T18:14:26.585Z] <Rucknium[m]> ajs_: What is this image? a list of submissions? possible topics?
[2023-01-14T18:14:41.441Z] <ajs_[m]> submissions we have in
[2023-01-14T18:15:09.912Z] <Rucknium[m]> Ok so "Applied statistics...." is the title of a submission
[2023-01-14T18:15:18.390Z] <blankpage[m]> My question was meant as "where could we look to pro actively find potential speakers and tell them to apply"
[2023-01-14T18:15:28.856Z] <ajs_[m]> that one is most likely spam
[2023-01-14T18:16:07.328Z] <Rucknium[m]> "On the Anonymity..." is a paper that I've read and given feedback on. Had a conversation with one of the authors in #monero-research-lab:monero.social
[2023-01-14T18:16:19.779Z] <ajs_[m]> the abstract look like a copy and paste from somewhere
[2023-01-14T18:16:53.207Z] <ajs_[m]> yes, i emailed a few authors of recent monero related publications and invited them to apply
[2023-01-14T18:16:55.749Z] <Rucknium[m]> blankpage: List of papers on moneroresearch.info . I think ajs sent invitations to those paper authors for last year's MoneroKon
[2023-01-14T18:18:03.074Z] <ajs_[m]> i contacted most of the authors in moneroresearch.info
[2023-01-14T18:18:24.302Z] <ajs_[m]> papers published in the last two years
[2023-01-14T18:18:40.071Z] <ajs_[m]> it seems many come from China
[2023-01-14T18:19:04.421Z] <Rucknium[m]> ajs_: Thanks!
[2023-01-14T18:19:37.278Z] <ajs_[m]> so please reach out to your contacts and ask them to apply for the CfP
[2023-01-14T18:20:04.039Z] <ajs_[m]> Update on Monerokon store and ticket waiting list
[2023-01-14T18:20:21.963Z] <blankpage[m]> Very good. Perhaps speakers from previous monerokons / monerotopia would be interested if their projects have updates
[2023-01-14T18:20:31.565Z] <Rucknium[m]> Yes, several authors from China. They are mostly writing about how to embed secret messages in Monero and how to make a partially-private version of Monero.
[2023-01-14T18:20:56.107Z] <ajs_[m]> as a stop gap until we get a store up and going, i made a form for people to sign up on the waiting list
[2023-01-14T18:20:58.163Z] <ajs_[m]> https://cryptpad.disroot.org/form/#/2/form/view/58gEFJ6PEk-4TkDup7A1p0HKSU1IKTIjl9v-M-o8ekk/embed/
[2023-01-14T18:21:34.343Z] <ajs_[m]> once the store is online, I'll send an email out to everyone on the waiting list
[2023-01-14T18:21:36.619Z] <Siren[m]> ajs_[m]: I'm working on the pretix nowpayments plugin. As we discussed earlier it should be available by the end of this month.
[2023-01-14T18:21:52.464Z] <ajs_[m]> there are 22 people on the waiting list right now
[2023-01-14T18:22:40.967Z] <Siren[m]> I was planning to provide a version that redirects to the external provider (nowpayments) because that is the standard pretix payment flow, however the endpoint for generating a redirect page isn't even available in the nowpayments sandbox api.
[2023-01-14T18:23:04.275Z] <blankpage[m]> Is "up to 400 attendees" from the CCS still accurate?
[2023-01-14T18:23:13.618Z] <ajs_[m]> binaryFate: any update on opening a Strip business account for DR?
[2023-01-14T18:23:31.467Z] <ajs_[m]> that is the upper target
[2023-01-14T18:23:34.863Z] <ajs_[m]> 200-400
[2023-01-14T18:24:20.801Z] <ajs_[m]> but the venue does have a capacity of up to 500 if need be
[2023-01-14T18:24:29.404Z] <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: In order to avoid redirecting the user and to have our server make the requests, plugin needs to use additional features like custom views etc. It's not as simple.
[2023-01-14T18:26:04.891Z] <ajs_[m]> store/ticketing system still WIP
[2023-01-14T18:26:10.333Z] <ajs_[m]> next issue
[2023-01-14T18:26:11.141Z] <ajs_[m]> Approve MoneroKon Sponsorship Policy
[2023-01-14T18:26:20.700Z] <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: Basically implementing the alternative flow would have been easier
[2023-01-14T18:26:20.786Z] <Siren[m]> https://documenter.getpostman.com/view/7907941/S1a32n38?version=latest#5e37f3ad-0fa1-4292-af51-5c7f95730486
[2023-01-14T18:26:20.786Z] <Siren[m]> However the 6th step doesn't exist in the sandbox API.
[2023-01-14T18:26:21.296Z] <ajs_[m]> https://github.com/MoneroKon/meta/blob/main/sponsorship-policy.md
[2023-01-14T18:26:42.201Z] <Siren[m]> s/#5e37f3ad-0fa1-4292-af51-5c7f95730486//, s///
[2023-01-14T18:27:05.995Z] <Stnby[m]> > <@siren:kernal.eu> Basically implementing the alternative flow would have been easier
[2023-01-14T18:27:06.081Z] <Stnby[m]> > https://documenter.getpostman.com/view/7907941/S1a32n38?version=latest
[2023-01-14T18:27:06.081Z] <Stnby[m]> Maybe it would be possible for us to get the DRs NowPayments api keys for proper testing?
[2023-01-14T18:27:06.081Z] <Stnby[m]> > However the 6th step doesn't exist in the sandbox API.
[2023-01-14T18:27:18.884Z] <Stnby[m]> * Maybe it would be possible for us to get the DRs NowPayments api keys (non-sandbox) for proper testing?
[2023-01-14T18:27:23.025Z] <ajs_[m]> I got an email from Bitmain asking to be as sponsor. I had to politely direct them to another event
[2023-01-14T18:27:28.875Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> have products or services considered to be gambling or games of chance
[2023-01-14T18:27:28.961Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Remove
[2023-01-14T18:27:50.866Z] <ajs_[m]> Stnby we have an account from last year
[2023-01-14T18:28:01.104Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> sale drug paraphernalia
[2023-01-14T18:28:01.231Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Remove
[2023-01-14T18:28:01.231Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Cancelled for selling bongs lol
[2023-01-14T18:28:01.651Z] <ajs_[m]> it should still be open
[2023-01-14T18:28:18.292Z] <plowsof11> Who is gambling related?
[2023-01-14T18:28:19.335Z] <ajs_[m]> i'll ask DR if we can get access to API keys for testing
[2023-01-14T18:28:44.132Z] <plowsof11> Cant you just use your own api keys
[2023-01-14T18:28:49.438Z] <plowsof11> Fr testing
[2023-01-14T18:28:51.083Z] <Siren[m]> Stnby[m]: We also need to be able to refund ourselves to juggle monero
[2023-01-14T18:29:23.225Z] <msvb-lab> The sponsorship policy is quite clear.
[2023-01-14T18:29:46.995Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> have products or services, which pose a reputational risk to Monero or MoneroKon
[2023-01-14T18:29:47.081Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Remove
[2023-01-14T18:29:47.081Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Too vague. I pose a reputational risk if you ask me
[2023-01-14T18:30:09.957Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> msvb-lab: Its to be voted on LoOL so in voicing my concerns
[2023-01-14T18:30:14.034Z] <Siren[m]> plowsof11: Prod api and sandbox api which is for testing isn't consistent. They fucked up there. There is not an endpoint for creating an external payment page to redirect to.
[2023-01-14T18:30:14.463Z] <ajs_[m]> plowsof: i looked at other sponsorship policies and they normally have these areas as exclusions
[2023-01-14T18:30:28.083Z] <msvb-lab> Some of the rules 'sell drug...' could be reduced to 'are not family friendly' but it's fine to be detailed as well.
[2023-01-14T18:30:39.293Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof11: All of crypto
[2023-01-14T18:31:07.903Z] <Stnby[m]> msvb-lab: I think general laws of CZ are enough
[2023-01-14T18:31:39.209Z] <Siren[m]> * redirect to. There's another endpoint that creates a payment process which only generates a payment address.
[2023-01-14T18:31:47.327Z] <Siren[m]> * Prod api and sandbox api which is for testing aren't consistent. They fucked up there. There is not an endpoint for creating an external payment page to redirect to. There's another endpoint that creates a payment process which only generates a payment address.
[2023-01-14T18:31:57.275Z] <Stnby[m]> This aint Afganistan where you need in ToS not to do list
[2023-01-14T18:32:35.747Z] <ajs_[m]> PRs are welcomed if anyone wants to propose changes
[2023-01-14T18:33:02.556Z] <Siren[m]> Advertising gambling in EU is hard. All you can say/show is basically the name of the company. And after that you need to say a bunch of stuff like "gambling is addictive" blah blah
[2023-01-14T18:33:05.151Z] <ajs_[m]> any objections to Sponsor Selection Process
[2023-01-14T18:33:12.627Z] <ajs_[m]> https://github.com/MoneroKon/meta/blob/main/sponsorship-policy.md#sponsor-selection-process
[2023-01-14T18:33:17.867Z] <monerobull[m]1> i guess its needed
[2023-01-14T18:33:23.313Z] <tree[m]> Stnby[m]: Note: Paralelni Polis itself is breaking the law by not accepting fiat currencies for payment
[2023-01-14T18:33:39.787Z] <tree[m]> i mean czech
[2023-01-14T18:33:48.114Z] <dadajo[m]1> does the monerokon.com email work now?
[2023-01-14T18:34:26.192Z] <ajs_[m]> yes
[2023-01-14T18:35:07.105Z] <ajs_[m]> i moved to protomail as an emergency since my email was being spam blocked in the other server
[2023-01-14T18:35:09.866Z] <Annesheher[m]> is the venue wheelchair accessible?
[2023-01-14T18:35:19.465Z] <blankpage[m]> I don't fully understand why a sponsorship policy is needed. Can't it just say "eligibility for sponsorship is at discretion of organizers"
[2023-01-14T18:35:21.844Z] <ajs_[m]> the IP got blacklisted for spam
[2023-01-14T18:35:35.245Z] <Stnby[m]> Is protonmail not blacklisted?
[2023-01-14T18:35:48.800Z] <ajs_[m]> doesn't seem so
[2023-01-14T18:35:54.622Z] <ajs_[m]> i was able to send and receive emails
[2023-01-14T18:36:33.903Z] <plowsof11> Have any sponsors been rejected?
[2023-01-14T18:36:35.150Z] <msvb-lab> Annesheher[m]: Most areas are wheelchair accessible yes.
[2023-01-14T18:36:43.932Z] <tree[m]> Annesheher[m]: La Fabrika should be wheelchair accessible. Parallel Polis is not, there is no elevator
[2023-01-14T18:37:00.282Z] <ajs_[m]> blankpage: it would be too arbitrary, at we has some standards now
[2023-01-14T18:37:04.713Z] <ajs_[m]> least
[2023-01-14T18:37:09.312Z] <ajs_[m]> ahve
[2023-01-14T18:37:10.511Z] <ajs_[m]> have
[2023-01-14T18:37:16.537Z] <msvb-lab> But the second and third floor of the Institute of Cryptoanarchy building is not wheelchair accessible, because there is no elevator. I think.
[2023-01-14T18:37:17.617Z] <ajs_[m]> plowsof: no
[2023-01-14T18:37:36.092Z] <ajs_[m]> that is why i propose the procedure
[2023-01-14T18:37:58.422Z] <ajs_[m]> so "we" the community can vote up or down potential sponsors
[2023-01-14T18:38:13.299Z] <tree[m]> @ajs_ Hello, I came here to get little more involved :)
[2023-01-14T18:38:24.171Z] <ajs_[m]> more democratic
[2023-01-14T18:38:25.056Z] <Stnby[m]> When will the voting of sponsors take place?
[2023-01-14T18:38:26.799Z] <ajs_[m]> hi tree
[2023-01-14T18:38:28.774Z] <ajs_[m]> welcome
[2023-01-14T18:38:34.531Z] <ajs_[m]> happy to see you here
[2023-01-14T18:38:42.949Z] <msvb-lab> Stnby[m] The votes happen in meetings like this one.
[2023-01-14T18:38:55.181Z] <ajs_[m]> in the weekly meetings
[2023-01-14T18:38:57.594Z] <MajesticBank> is there a list of sponsors who applied so far?
[2023-01-14T18:39:09.592Z] <ajs_[m]> if we have sponsors pending approval
[2023-01-14T18:39:11.497Z] <jwinterm[m]> That seems like theoretically better but maybe much messier approach than just having organizers select potential sponsors
[2023-01-14T18:39:14.627Z] <MajesticBank> application accepted for voting or something like that
[2023-01-14T18:39:14.713Z] <ajs_[m]> which we do by the way
[2023-01-14T18:39:49.364Z] <ajs_[m]> so we have some sponsors to vote on
[2023-01-14T18:39:52.936Z] <blankpage[m]> I just think the long detailed exclusions might put off potentially desirable sponsors
[2023-01-14T18:40:09.535Z] <blankpage[m]> The process described is very good
[2023-01-14T18:40:36.609Z] <ajs_[m]> okay
[2023-01-14T18:40:37.086Z] <Rucknium[m]> "Community" voter eligibility is not specified in the policy.
[2023-01-14T18:40:37.596Z] <ajs_[m]> let's vote on the sponsors we have pending
[2023-01-14T18:40:38.367Z] <ajs_[m]> 1. RINO
[2023-01-14T18:40:45.034Z] <MajesticBank> would be nice to be transparent about sponsors as we are with everything else
[2023-01-14T18:41:09.288Z] <ajs_[m]> got an email this week from the CEO they would like Cypherpunk Hero sponsor
[2023-01-14T18:41:25.834Z] <ajs_[m]> +1 yes
[2023-01-14T18:41:27.145Z] <monerobull[m]1> rino is good
[2023-01-14T18:41:28.894Z] <monerobull[m]1> +1
[2023-01-14T18:41:29.065Z] <ajs_[m]> -1 no
[2023-01-14T18:41:45.353Z] <plowsof11> If there are limited spots. Voting order matters
[2023-01-14T18:41:46.049Z] <ajs_[m]> 0 abstain
[2023-01-14T18:41:46.525Z] <franciscom[m]> 1. RINO +1
[2023-01-14T18:41:56.432Z] <ajs_[m]> first come, first serve
[2023-01-14T18:41:57.151Z] <MajesticBank> why not putting this in meeting points
[2023-01-14T18:42:04.409Z] <ajs_[m]> +1
[2023-01-14T18:42:08.214Z] <Lovera[m]> Rino is 👌🏼
[2023-01-14T18:42:09.871Z] <dadajo[m]1> 1. RINO +1
[2023-01-14T18:42:23.610Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> MajesticBank: Right
[2023-01-14T18:42:53.123Z] <ajs_[m]> any other votes for or against RINO
[2023-01-14T18:43:05.936Z] <blankpage[m]> Rino seems to be run by community members with good reputation, although I'd be interested to hear from someone who has actually used their services other than community nodes and stats. +1
[2023-01-14T18:43:09.295Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Limited spots = voting shooulnt happen until there are enough to vote on..
[2023-01-14T18:43:13.756Z] <plowsof11> Rino are great !1
[2023-01-14T18:43:13.842Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Unless its first cone first serve, like was said initially
[2023-01-14T18:43:16.953Z] <MajesticBank> Last time you said voting will be public and announced
[2023-01-14T18:43:20.427Z] <ajs_[m]> okay, rino in
[2023-01-14T18:43:26.123Z] <ajs_[m]> next, MajesticBank
[2023-01-14T18:43:39.730Z] <plowsof11> But now theres 1 less spot as rino was up for vote first
[2023-01-14T18:43:40.841Z] <ajs_[m]> which level are you interested?
[2023-01-14T18:43:44.063Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> MajesticBank: ^^^
[2023-01-14T18:44:04.057Z] <MajesticBank> top sponsor
[2023-01-14T18:44:08.855Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Facepalm
[2023-01-14T18:44:19.169Z] <MajesticBank> as wrote in email but regardless feel like it's
[2023-01-14T18:44:30.167Z] <MajesticBank> right voting like this anyway
[2023-01-14T18:44:33.727Z] <msvb-lab> Rino yes.
[2023-01-14T18:44:35.213Z] <ajs_[m]> 2. MajesticBank for Cypherpunk Hero
[2023-01-14T18:44:35.910Z] <ajs_[m]> votes
[2023-01-14T18:45:39.486Z] <ajs_[m]> any for votes for or against MajesticBank?
[2023-01-14T18:45:44.591Z] <blankpage[m]> +1
[2023-01-14T18:45:52.428Z] <jwinterm[m]> I like majestic bank, given everything they've done in not sure why sponsorship would be denied besides anonymity, which seems a bit ironic in this space
[2023-01-14T18:46:51.955Z] <plowsof11> +1 for MB but.. first come first serve - am i agreeing to knock another sponsor off the list here that will be up for vote later
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[2023-01-14T18:46:55.461Z] <Stnby[m]> +1 Majestic
[2023-01-14T18:47:04.365Z] <dadajo[m]1> +1 Majestic
[2023-01-14T18:47:07.004Z] <franciscom[m]> Majestic +1
[2023-01-14T18:47:19.132Z] <Lovera[m]> +1 majestic
[2023-01-14T18:47:22.236Z] <monerobull[m]1> majestic +1
[2023-01-14T18:47:25.549Z] <jwinterm[m]> Opsec being held against entities operating in Monero space 🤯
[2023-01-14T18:47:33.763Z] <Siren[m]> haha
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[2023-01-14T18:48:43.072Z] <Siren[m]> 1+ for majestic
[2023-01-14T18:49:27.333Z] <ajs_[m]> any more votes... going, once... going twice
[2023-01-14T18:49:35.416Z] <Siren[m]> * +1 for majestic
[2023-01-14T18:50:07.975Z] <ajs_[m]> sold! to the man in the fedora
[2023-01-14T18:50:13.105Z] <ajs_[m]> next
[2023-01-14T18:50:24.639Z] <monerobull[m]1> of course
[2023-01-14T18:50:24.639Z] <ajs_[m]> 3. Cake Wallet
[2023-01-14T18:50:25.337Z] <ajs_[m]> votes for or against
[2023-01-14T18:50:26.683Z] <ajs_[m]> +1
[2023-01-14T18:50:29.027Z] <monerobull[m]1> +1
[2023-01-14T18:50:31.443Z] <franciscom[m]> Cake Wallet +1
[2023-01-14T18:50:39.105Z] <msvb-lab> Cake Wallet +1.
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[2023-01-14T18:50:47.855Z] <Stnby[m]> +1 If they promise Lithuania support :DDD
[2023-01-14T18:50:55.881Z] <plowsof11> Cake +1
[2023-01-14T18:50:57.300Z] <Siren[m]> +1 if they add Maxima gift card
[2023-01-14T18:51:03.983Z] <ajs_[m]> okay, Cake Wallet is in
[2023-01-14T18:51:09.359Z] <dadajo[m]1> Cake Wallet as Cypherphunk Hero?
[2023-01-14T18:51:14.763Z] <ajs_[m]> yes
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[2023-01-14T18:51:27.846Z] <ajs_[m]> Cypherphunk Hero now sold out
[2023-01-14T18:51:27.959Z] <Lovera[m]> Cake +1
[2023-01-14T18:51:41.732Z] <ajs_[m]> next level Contributor
[2023-01-14T18:51:45.792Z] <Stnby[m]> Now the cheap tiers
[2023-01-14T18:51:50.759Z] <ajs_[m]> we have 4. IVPN
[2023-01-14T18:51:54.377Z] <ajs_[m]> +1
[2023-01-14T18:51:54.922Z] <dadajo[m]1> +1 CW
[2023-01-14T18:51:59.861Z] <msvb-lab> IVPN +1
[2023-01-14T18:52:01.550Z] <franciscom[m]> IVPN +1
[2023-01-14T18:52:05.196Z] <Stnby[m]> -1 IVPN
[2023-01-14T18:52:15.656Z] <ceetee[m]> +1 for cake
[2023-01-14T18:52:44.706Z] <ajs_[m]> any other votes for and against IVPN
[2023-01-14T18:52:54.511Z] <blankpage[m]> +1
[2023-01-14T18:52:57.974Z] <Siren[m]> -1 IVPN
[2023-01-14T18:53:01.274Z] <jwinterm[m]> +1 +1
[2023-01-14T18:53:04.637Z] <blankpage[m]> For both cake and ivpn
[2023-01-14T18:53:06.978Z] <jwinterm[m]> For ivpn + cake
[2023-01-14T18:53:24.888Z] <ceetee[m]> IVPN +1 as well
[2023-01-14T18:53:27.252Z] <monerobull[m]1> +1
[2023-01-14T18:53:30.470Z] <dadajo[m]1> +1 VIPN
[2023-01-14T18:53:33.839Z] <dadajo[m]1> IVPN
[2023-01-14T18:53:43.217Z] <Lovera[m]> IVPN good 👍🏼👍🏼
[2023-01-14T18:53:55.938Z] <ceetee[m]> * as well (but id prefer cake overall)
[2023-01-14T18:53:56.801Z] <Stnby[m]> IVPN is not participating in this chat, its all just marketing for them, plus their product is nothing special
[2023-01-14T18:54:11.501Z] <ajs_[m]> so IVPN is in... +10, -2
[2023-01-14T18:54:23.033Z] <plowsof11> +1 ivpn
[2023-01-14T18:54:55.123Z] <plowsof11> They are giving away things iirc?
[2023-01-14T18:55:04.238Z] <Siren[m]> like what?
[2023-01-14T18:55:09.411Z] <Stnby[m]> Advert coupons
[2023-01-14T18:55:16.469Z] <plowsof11> Voucher?
[2023-01-14T18:55:21.584Z] <plowsof11> lol
[2023-01-14T18:55:35.467Z] <ajs_[m]> there is one more sponsor, but we'll vote on this one next meeting. i need to share some information with them about the packages
[2023-01-14T18:55:41.852Z] <nioc> they gave away free vpn services at Lisbon Monerokon
[2023-01-14T18:56:02.981Z] <nioc> promo codes
[2023-01-14T18:56:04.682Z] <Stnby[m]> ajs_[m]: Is Digilol up for discussion?
[2023-01-14T18:56:29.457Z] <ajs_[m]> we are almost out of time, can we save it for next meeting?
[2023-01-14T18:57:14.393Z] <ajs_[m]> next issue... Community approval of invoices
[2023-01-14T18:57:18.212Z] <blankpage[m]> "Digilol" returns no relevant results in an internet search and I don't know what it is
[2023-01-14T18:57:25.072Z] <ajs_[m]> https://invoice.monerokon.com
[2023-01-14T18:57:36.215Z] <ajs_[m]> we have pending invoices
[2023-01-14T18:58:09.583Z] <Siren[m]> blankpage[m]: we provide hosting and system administration for monerokon
[2023-01-14T18:58:09.670Z] <ajs_[m]> please review and comment here if you object to any of them
[2023-01-14T18:58:14.040Z] <Siren[m]> > <@blankpage:monero.social> "Digilol" returns no relevant results in an internet search and I don't know what it is
[2023-01-14T18:58:14.126Z] <Siren[m]> * we provide hosting and system administration for monerokon
[2023-01-14T18:58:14.126Z] <Siren[m]> https://digilol.net
[2023-01-14T18:58:17.929Z] <plowsof11> Digilol is siren/stnby who are helping with ticket sales system and other things?
[2023-01-14T18:58:24.107Z] <ajs_[m]> DR is not set up yet for payments, so we can vote on the invoice in the next meeting
[2023-01-14T18:58:51.838Z] <ajs_[m]> next issue
[2023-01-14T18:58:56.857Z] <ajs_[m]> Press Release
[2023-01-14T18:59:01.443Z] <ajs_[m]> here is the draft https://monerokon.prowly.com/221722-3rd-annual-international-monero-konferenco-on-security-privacy-and-decentralization-in-blockchain-technology
[2023-01-14T18:59:14.297Z] <Stnby[m]> plowsof11: CfP, email, music server and streaming as well
[2023-01-14T18:59:17.030Z] <ajs_[m]> please share any comments about it after the meeting
[2023-01-14T18:59:25.835Z] <ajs_[m]> should be going out next week
[2023-01-14T18:59:42.577Z] <ajs_[m]> purchase of "monerokon.org" domain name - redirected to monerokon.com
[2023-01-14T18:59:51.523Z] <ajs_[m]> FYI
[2023-01-14T19:00:03.104Z] <ajs_[m]> we have monerokon.org and monerokon.com
[2023-01-14T19:00:38.905Z] <ajs_[m]> we will be using .org for direct coms and .com for first contact emails to avoid the spam blacklist issue
[2023-01-14T19:00:49.001Z] <msvb-lab> Fairfilm looks very good, was it HCPP staff who recommended them?
[2023-01-14T19:00:58.454Z] <ajs_[m]> next issue
[2023-01-14T19:01:08.122Z] <ajs_[m]> Merchandise production plan
[2023-01-14T19:01:10.265Z] <ajs_[m]> anything you want to share msvb-lab
[2023-01-14T19:01:21.143Z] <msvb-lab> Nothing to share, no.
[2023-01-14T19:01:30.969Z] <msvb-lab> I think we need to meet again in one week instead of two weeks.
[2023-01-14T19:01:40.129Z] <ajs_[m]> okay
[2023-01-14T19:01:40.525Z] <ajs_[m]> next, Prague Blockchain Week
[2023-01-14T19:02:03.189Z] <ajs_[m]> tree: has invited us to do a "Pre-Konferenco" meetup during Prague Blockchain Week - June 2-11, 2023
[2023-01-14T19:02:11.868Z] <ajs_[m]> i think it a great idea
[2023-01-14T19:02:36.343Z] <ajs_[m]> i'll give a chance to meet and go over plans before the main event
[2023-01-14T19:02:49.832Z] <ajs_[m]> thoughts?
[2023-01-14T19:02:51.822Z] <msvb-lab> On site you mean tree, in Praha?
[2023-01-14T19:02:59.758Z] <msvb-lab> Or remote like this IRC?
[2023-01-14T19:03:03.693Z] <ajs_[m]> yeah
[2023-01-14T19:03:08.260Z] <ajs_[m]> the in person
[2023-01-14T19:03:16.483Z] <ajs_[m]> during Prague Blockchain Week
[2023-01-14T19:03:19.246Z] <ajs_[m]> a small meet up
[2023-01-14T19:03:42.368Z] <msvb-lab> Good idea.
[2023-01-14T19:04:21.576Z] <ajs_[m]> we can go over details in the next meeting
[2023-01-14T19:04:38.657Z] <ajs_[m]> AOB
[2023-01-14T19:04:49.927Z] <Stnby[m]> ajs_[m]: flights just for a small meetup, casual :D
[2023-01-14T19:04:53.459Z] <ajs_[m]> okay
[2023-01-14T19:05:26.273Z] <ajs_[m]> also meet with suppliers and walk the venue
[2023-01-14T19:05:36.943Z] <msvb-lab> The ETC (classic Ethereum not ETH) people may want to combine their smaller 200 person conference with Konferenco.
[2023-01-14T19:05:55.442Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> <Siren[m]> "like what?" <- CCS stuff
[2023-01-14T19:06:08.143Z] <msvb-lab> It's unclear if they are able to deliver their wish of renting a venue (very near ours) and doing the event work.
[2023-01-14T19:06:30.612Z] <msvb-lab> But if they do, we will need to decide how much collaboration we want to give (and take) them.
[2023-01-14T19:06:31.444Z] <tree[m]> msvb-lab: yeah in prague
[2023-01-14T19:06:32.032Z] <tree[m]> Just a quick introduction - I'm from the Czech-Slovak ethereum group Gwei.cz, we do educational content and mainly events here in the Czech Republic. Last year we did the biggest local crypto conference UTXO.22 (1200 ppl.) and the lunarpunk hackathon ETHBrno, focused on privacy.
[2023-01-14T19:06:32.118Z] <tree[m]> For June this year we are coordinating Prague Blockchain Week, which will be June 2-11, within that there will be ETHPrague, BTCPrague, DeFi summit, IBC Prague, Dotsama, most communities are doing some kind of event of their own
[2023-01-14T19:06:48.737Z] <ajs_[m]> yes, i just saw the message from ETC foundation people
[2023-01-14T19:06:53.379Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Need more space for that
[2023-01-14T19:06:56.281Z] <tree[m]> * Just a quick introduction - I'm from the Czech-Slovak ethereum group Gwei.cz, we do educational content and mainly events here in the Czech Republic. Last year we did the biggest local crypto conference UTXO.22 (1200 ppl.) and the lunarpunk hackathon ETHBrno, focused on privacy.
[2023-01-14T19:06:56.282Z] <tree[m]> For June this year we are coordinating Prague Blockchain Week, which will be June 2-11, within that there will be ETHPrague, BTCPrague, DeFi summit, IBC Prague, Dotsama, most communities are doing some kind of event of their own
[2023-01-14T19:06:56.282Z] <tree[m]> https://prgblockweek.com/
[2023-01-14T19:06:58.780Z] <ajs_[m]> they want to join our event
[2023-01-14T19:07:04.884Z] <ajs_[m]> but details TBD
[2023-01-14T19:07:15.710Z] <ajs_[m]> we can talk more about next meeting
[2023-01-14T19:07:25.629Z] <ajs_[m]> Confirm next meeting time and date
[2023-01-14T19:07:39.519Z] <ajs_[m]> should we keep it every two week or move to weekly?
[2023-01-14T19:07:54.391Z] <ofrnxmr[m]> Its worth talking to them about a merged event, but Monerokon is monero
[2023-01-14T19:07:54.391Z] <Stnby[m]> Next week preferably
[2023-01-14T19:08:24.490Z] <franciscom[m]> move to weekly for now
[2023-01-14T19:08:25.137Z] <franciscom[m]> there are a lot of topics to discuss
[2023-01-14T19:08:53.436Z] <blankpage[m]> ETC doesn't seem to have any privacy-centric development
[2023-01-14T19:09:04.555Z] <ajs_[m]> yes, we had a lot this meeting
[2023-01-14T19:09:16.032Z] <ajs_[m]> i think weekly too
[2023-01-14T19:09:21.587Z] <Stnby[m]> Did we skip "Sign up SendGrid - email marketing platform" agenda, or Proton fixed the issue?
[2023-01-14T19:09:35.910Z] <dadajo[m]1> next week
[2023-01-14T19:09:51.475Z] <ajs_[m]> Stnby: still waiting on DR about the KYC issue
[2023-01-14T19:10:00.968Z] <ajs_[m]> okay next week it is
[2023-01-14T19:10:03.511Z] <ajs_[m]> same time
[2023-01-14T19:10:17.873Z] <ajs_[m]> same place
[2023-01-14T19:10:29.442Z] <Stnby[m]> Different day 😉
[2023-01-14T19:10:31.384Z] <ajs_[m]> thank you everyone for joining the meeting
[2023-01-14T19:10:33.766Z] <Siren[m]> present day present time
[2023-01-14T19:10:37.329Z] <msvb-lab> Thanks everyone for the good meeting and great moderation ajs_[m].
[2023-01-14T19:10:40.315Z] <franciscom[m]> see you next week
[2023-01-14T19:10:40.401Z] <franciscom[m]> and btw, good to see so many people participating in this meetings ;)
[2023-01-14T19:10:49.308Z] <ajs_[m]> have a wonderful evening/day. talk to you all next week
[2023-01-14T19:11:01.578Z] <Stnby[m]> Have a nice evening everyone
[2023-01-14T19:11:14.899Z] <Stnby[m]> * nice evening (or morning) everyone
[2023-01-14T19:13:20.901Z] <dadajo[m]1> thank you everyone
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