Closed plowsof closed 1 year ago
I'd like to learn from endor an approximate completion date for this issue of SolOptXMR.
Noted @mj-xmr, ill ask for an update
With regards to the scripts for the animated videos proposal requesting feedback, I won't be able to (meaningfully) attend because of the unfortunate time in Australia when the meeting is scheduled. However, as script coordinator, I'll check the meeting log afterwards and add any comments to the repo, in addition to those received over the last week or so.
Once I've digested it all and made changes, I'll reach out to the commenting individuals to see if there is any additional feedback on the new version.
Logs
16:00:18 <plowsof11> Meeting time https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/785
16:00:21 <plowsof11> Greetings, hi
16:00:41 <Siren[m]> Ohai
16:00:53 <MSvB[m]> Hello.
16:02:20 <plowsof11> linking the news sites/letters while we wait a bit (Monero Moon has been active recently
and is making an appearance) [Monero Observer](https://www.monero.observer/) - [Revuo Monero](https://revuo-
xmr.com/) - [The Monero Standard](https://localmonero.co/the-monero-standard) - [Monero
Moon](https://www.themoneromoon.com/)
16:03:30 <hinto[m]> hello
16:05:10 <plowsof11> can jump to community highlights, anyone want to share something cool theyve been doing
or noticed?
16:05:46 <Siren[m]> Small update about Monero ATM: We would like to thank everyone who donated to the [ATM
project](https://atm.monero.is/). We're 57% funded! There hasn't been much progress this week because I'm busy
programming for Monerokon.
16:05:47 <blankpage[m]> Hello
16:06:25 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: Other people are busy exploring NixOS builds and random stuff
16:06:42 <blankpage[m]> Revuo seems pretty low effort compared to the other news sources
16:06:47 <plowsof11> an open source, off-the-shelf parts DIY ATM to buy monero with cash
16:07:24 <plowsof11> the p2poool hardfork test on testnet was a success so everything is on track, well done
sech1 https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/issues/224
16:08:06 <hinto[m]> i forked plowsofs code to make a daily updated list of ZMQ-enabled monero nodes:
https://github.com/hinto-janaiyo/monero-nodes
16:08:39 <hinto[m]> these will be replacing the current nodes used in gupax, hopefully solving a lot p2pool
connection related issues
16:08:43 <plowsof11> i've also posted a bounty to hopefully support the developer who helps get blake2b
merged into seraphis. without this, there will be no randomx mining in it, so its kind of important C++
BLAKE2b Dev Challenge [ Seraphis ] [new bounty
posted](https://bounties.monero.social/posts/75/0-348m-blake2b-c-dev-challenge-seraphis)
16:09:58 <plowsof11> [Haveno bounties](https://github.com/haveno-
dex/haveno/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%F0%9F%92%B0bounty) , woodser has been very busy on the back
end. wowario recently made a pull request to add wownero to haveno.
16:11:05 <Rucknium[m]> I wrote this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10gapp9/centralized_mining_pools_are_delaying_monero/
16:11:27 <Rucknium[m]> Already at least 3 mining pools started confirming transactions faster.
16:12:41 <plowsof11> wonderful, great to hear, up to ~1 minute faster for a transaction to get 1 conf if every
mining pool updates 👍️
16:13:13 <plowsof11> a few CCS proposers who might not be able to make it have given some updates on what
theyve been up to also
16:13:32 <plowsof11> dmslegend has taken note of feedback already given and put them into issues here
(focussing on video 1) https://gitlab.com/monero-videos/monero-adoption-animated-videos/-/issues
16:14:04 <plowsof11> here is the Script 1 that's being being addressed first https://gitlab.com/monero-
videos/monero-adoption-animated-
videos/-/blob/main/Video%201%20Script%3A%20Why%20Use%20Monero%20for%20Commerce%3F.md
16:14:12 <plowsof11> savandra has uploaded a sneak peak of some images / ideas for feedback theyve worked on
this week https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/308#note_20552
16:14:19 <savandra[m]> Hey guys, here are the new 3D concepts for the vids
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10nfjb7/new_animated_video_update_on_the_new_3d_concepts/
16:14:22 <savandra[m]> oh sorry
16:14:28 <plowsof11> ah hello savandra
16:15:06 <plowsof11> no problem
16:15:37 <savandra[m]> thank you for bringing up the matrix, hope the new concepts look more appealing! they
will be easily scalable to cover complex and long topics in the future
16:15:55 <plowsof11> my suggestion was to focus on script 1 / video 1 and i am so far satisfied with these
efforts to address our concerns, and will be following up to see any further progress / make sure we're being
kept up to date
16:16:21 <savandra[m]> looking forward to the feedback from the community :)
16:16:25 <savandra[m]> plowsof11: sure
16:18:18 <monerobull[m]1> Hello
16:18:50 <Siren[m]> savandra[m]: they look awesome!
16:19:06 <anhdres[m]> Hi there
16:19:09 <Siren[m]> I love that one with the ball dispenser (?)
16:19:39 <savandra[m]> Siren[m]: yeah, central autority concept with cctv cameras
16:19:45 <savandra[m]> s/autority/authority/
16:19:56 <Siren[m]> that's honestly very creative
16:20:00 <Siren[m]> fits so well
16:20:10 <monerobull[m]1> The new images are cool
16:20:37 <plowsof11> yes, i am relieved to see the script coordinator / animator working
16:21:09 <Rucknium[m]> Another update from me: Artic Mine has given me initial feedback on my OSPEAD
estimation procedure draft and approved the general direction. That's now three green lights out of three, so
we are go for launch.
16:21:09 <plowsof11> very creative indeed
16:22:07 <plowsof11> Molly IM [update](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-
proposals/-/merge_requests/252#note_20549) valldrac has shown me the git history of the repo and i can confirm
that regular work has been going on in the molly-monero sdk repo.
16:22:07 <plowsof11> i've suggested that they try to 'show' us how its going with e,g, screenshots/recordings
so we know the project is still alive, which it is
16:22:17 <anhdres[m]> savandra: just saw the 3D concepts, very cool, like them
16:23:43 <plowsof11> thanks for the update valldrac
16:24:33 <plowsof11> out of 3 projects/persons who ive asked for updates, savandra/dmslegend - and valldrac
have impressed me. only nothing from yet endor00
16:25:46 <plowsof11> ill chase that up. i think we can go on to the ccs proposals now
16:26:25 <plowsof11> [Create Educational Content in Spanish](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-
proposals/-/merge_requests/366)
16:27:39 <monerobull[m]1> Hm
16:28:11 <plowsof11> lovera has edited the proposal after each request by the community / attended all the
prior meetings. it now contains the transparency section which discloses the 5 videos from cake / no youtube
monetisation or other will be on the community videos. donators can see the full picture now
16:28:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> 👀 im late
16:28:56 <monerobull[m]1> Looks like it has community support and the guy incorporated all request people had
16:30:31 <anhdres[m]> I commented in the isssue, I don't see a problem with Lovera proposal, his videos are
usually very clear and he's knowledgeable. There is not an excess of spanish material, really. I'll leave it
to the community to step up and fund it, but the CCS should be approved IMHO.
16:30:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lovera @btclovera:matrix.org: thank you for the transparency
16:30:53 <plowsof11> time to merge this one then?
16:31:27 <Siren[m]> Honestly it's better outreach than the movie
16:31:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> I vote yes
16:31:42 <monerobull[m]1> I vote yes
16:31:46 <Siren[m]> also better price/value, so I'm gonna say yes too
16:31:46 <Stnby[m]> And a whole 15XMR less
16:32:03 <Stnby[m]> Absoultely good deal
16:32:20 <plowsof11> yes
16:32:26 <monerobull[m]1> 15?
16:32:49 <ofrnxmr[m]> Movie is 25k* usd 150xmr or so
16:32:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> So 140xmr less
16:32:56 <Stnby[m]> Ohh right
16:33:22 <Stnby[m]> Well then even better
16:33:31 <Stnby[m]> * even better deal
16:33:31 <plowsof11> Lovera wil be merged asap thanks for votes and patience
16:33:44 <plowsof11> [Help an independent film featuring Monero get to the Oscars™!
16:33:44 <plowsof11> ](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/371)
16:34:01 <monerobull[m]1> Only if we get a community version
16:34:02 <Siren[m]> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
16:34:16 <anhdres[m]> I think we should be able to watch the film to judge the amount and kind of Monero
exposure
16:34:26 <Stnby[m]> > <@plowsof:matrix.org> [Help an independent film featuring Monero get to the Oscars™!
16:34:26 <Stnby[m]> > ](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/371)
16:34:26 <Stnby[m]> Sell your kidneys if you want 150XMR. Not worth even if the movie is CC
16:34:30 <monerobull[m]1> That NEEDS to be clarified before we can even fund it based on the CCS rules
16:34:40 <Stnby[m]> Absolutely NO
16:34:42 <Siren[m]> I don't care about any awards, it needs to be free and open
16:35:06 <Stnby[m]> He does not deserve a cent more than Lovera @btclovera:matrix.org
16:35:47 <plowsof11> so we can see 15% of the movie (public) which i read is planned . the license issue is
still lingering , but the proposer is shifting toward applying the liense to "only the marketing material"
16:36:09 <Siren[m]> and if it cannot be open and he cares more about qualifying for awards, he should go find
funding somewhere else
16:36:10 <Stnby[m]> Not worth 150XMR anyway
16:36:19 <Stnby[m]> A single youtube video is longer lmao
16:36:25 <Siren[m]> I also think that it's not worth 150 XMR
16:36:49 <monerobull[m]1> plowsof11: Only the marketing material? So this is a marketing proposal again all of
a sudden
16:37:02 <Stnby[m]> Just a fat NO
16:37:16 <plowsof11> yes thats the new pivot
16:37:29 <ofrnxmr[m]> No
16:37:30 * Siren[m] uploaded an image: (877KiB) <
https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/kernal.eu/siQWTVzkMcYpVxTiueuvTBbH/image.png >
16:37:39 <Stnby[m]> No one cares about his bizantine M coin 1sec shot
16:37:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> I vote hard no
16:37:52 <plowsof11> the proposers comment to summarise where they are at now
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/371#note_20542
16:37:52 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: not good enough to find out about Monero
16:38:21 <Siren[m]> but maybe for learning about byzatine empire and drugs
16:38:58 <ofrnxmr[m]> jwinterm @jwinterm:libera.chat: jwinterm @jwinterm:magicgrants.org:
16:39:09 <monerobull[m]1> I could have _maybe_ considered if it was to "support the art"
16:39:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> The ccs is not for the movie, but for the marketing to get to the Oscars
16:39:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> So I wont vote for you, since that wasnt what was discussed
16:39:23 <plowsof11> if we take a look at the bitcoin miami proposal - one of the core team fluffypony had
issue with 'dash hosting a strip club party' so this seems to be important how monero is perceived
16:39:32 <monerobull[m]1> But as just a marketing thing its basically worthless
16:39:46 <Stnby[m]> monerobull[m]1: You should make a proposal for 150 XMR we can cover every single sqm of
Lithuania in Monero ads
16:39:56 <ofrnxmr[m]> Marketing a movie that we cant watch until after commitiing a donation? No
16:39:57 <Siren[m]> I honestly find it problematic that he didn't ask the dead child's family for consent
16:40:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Might as well sponsor Netflix
16:40:06 <jwinterm[m]> I vote that it is ok to go to funding if marketing materials are permissively licensed
16:40:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> Ill contact Netflix and see if they want us to donate to their TV show
16:40:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> jwinterm @jwinterm:magicgrants.org: thank you for update 👍
16:40:50 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: and he's dodging this question too
16:40:55 <monerobull[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: "This scene sponsored by the Monero community"
16:41:05 <ofrnxmr[m]> Yeah, saying "thats his problem "
16:41:11 <Stnby[m]> DRM sponsored by Monero CCS
16:41:11 <anhdres[m]> We need to see the film, that's my opinion. Maybe it's great. But we cannot make a
decision based on words alone.
16:41:19 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hard no.
16:41:23 <plowsof11> have you not seen it anhdres?
16:41:29 <anhdres[m]> nope
16:41:31 <jwinterm[m]> anhdres[m]: I think this is also reasonable request
16:41:34 <jwinterm[m]> I have seen it
16:41:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> anhdres @anhdres:matrix.org: you must pay to view
16:41:40 <anhdres[m]> I thought it wasn't available
16:41:41 <Stnby[m]> Can someone drop a link to the movie?
16:41:49 <plowsof11> ehhh its a spanish film, you'd be the first person on the list
16:41:50 <jwinterm[m]> geonic shared it with me privately
16:41:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: And delete after viewing
16:42:09 <Stnby[m]> It has to be on the proposal page
16:42:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> But it cant be, or voids the point of the ccs
16:42:21 <plowsof11> anhdres you can contact geonoic for a link
16:42:23 <anhdres[m]> will check, I had no idea it was possible to watch it
16:42:30 <Siren[m]> it's an invalid proposal
16:42:31 <anhdres[m]> will do
16:42:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof11: Nah, thats sus
16:42:58 <Stnby[m]> How many dislikes does it have to collect to be closed?
16:43:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> 100
16:43:18 <anhdres[m]> in another life I went to film school haha
16:43:26 <plowsof11> geonic* currently it was breaking the rules, but now its shifted into "marketing
materials"
16:43:40 <Siren[m]> it's also mega weird that he's already done with the movie and will release regardless,
he's only here for marketing but provides little to no value for us
16:43:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> (Sarcasm. We all know they will merge this)
16:43:40 <plowsof11> xD
16:43:54 <ofrnxmr[m]> I wont ask for a copy.
16:43:57 <Stnby[m]> plowsof11: When did we spend 150XMR on 1 second marketing?
16:44:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> If I cannot come to the ccs and VIEW it, I can only vote no
16:44:40 <monerobull[m]1> I swear to God if the gf pays to this
16:44:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> So, no
16:44:40 <Siren[m]> you know that you can get a monero themed hot air balloon for 150 xmr right???
16:44:40 <Siren[m]> what the fuck
16:44:40 <Siren[m]> nobody even watches the end credits
16:44:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> You can get Netflix placement for cheaper
16:44:42 <ofrnxmr[m]> And actual name dropping
16:44:56 <Stnby[m]> Can I open a proposal where I ask for CCS to buy me a hot air baloon. We will give it away
to the hot air baloon company in Vilnius
16:44:56 <Siren[m]> yes that was much better marketing
16:44:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Can watch Netflix trailers too
16:45:13 <Stnby[m]> Stnby[m]: With a big ass getmonero ad
16:45:19 <Siren[m]> because the netflix show said something in the lines of "in Monero. It is untraceable
currency."
16:45:26 <monerobull[m]1> ofrnxmr[m]: With a explanation instead of portraied like a physical coin
16:45:32 <Siren[m]> YES
16:45:33 <ofrnxmr[m]> Stnby[m]: No
16:45:37 <Rucknium[m]> Zcash funded a skydiver
16:45:38 <ofrnxmr[m]> Were doing sgp's yacht next
16:45:50 <monerobull[m]1> Rucknium[m]: Ok but that was cool
16:45:56 <monerobull[m]1> Like their hit song, ZCash anthem
16:46:11 <monerobull[m]1> WHICH IS PERMISSIVELY LICENSED CAN YOU BELIEVE IT
16:46:11 <Stnby[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Those dont cost 150XMR
16:46:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Go big or go home
16:46:50 <plowsof11> if this 'situation' is not remedied then it feels like we're in a deadlock / no consensus
with possibly 'rules being broken' - i would then ask core to decide if necessary (like the bitcoin miami
proposal) 😟
16:47:11 <Stnby[m]> Hot air baloon costs 30-70k Eur + VAT. Whos into it?
16:47:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> Uh
16:47:15 <Rucknium[m]> https://grants.zfnd.org/proposals/1830470619-proposal-to-fund-zcash-skydives
16:47:21 <anhdres[m]> I'm still trying to get any of the argentinean fintech that sell crypto for fiat and
stuff like that to accept Monero
16:47:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> There is 1?2 yes votes from "not my friends"
16:47:28 <ofrnxmr[m]> And the rest from friends and alts
16:47:40 <Stnby[m]> Stnby[m]: https://ballooning.lt/reklama-ant-oro-baliono/
16:47:42 <anhdres[m]> then the second step is to post guerilla posters and stuff
16:48:07 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lets reopen Lebanon cxs
16:48:09 <anhdres[m]> but otherwise makes no sense because it's kinda annoying yo buy monero here, unless pure
p2p
16:48:13 <monerobull[m]1> anhdres[m]: I can provide those
16:48:16 <jwinterm[m]> 570 xmr on chinese marketing on one forum https://forum.getmonero.org/22/completed-
tasks/87757/funding-for-a-monero-subforum-on-the-largest-chinese-btc-forum-8btc
16:48:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Monero doesnt win an Oscar. Geonic does
16:48:38 <monerobull[m]1> jwinterm[m]: How much was xmr worth back then
16:48:49 <Siren[m]> I think he'll win a lawsuit from the family before oscars
16:48:53 <sgp[m]> Rucknium[m]: Honestly $3300 is a good value if the videos actually look cool
16:48:55 <jwinterm[m]> monerobull[m]1: I think that was $25k?
16:48:57 <Siren[m]> * I think he'll be awarded a lawsuit from the family before oscars
16:49:15 <jwinterm[m]> 170.000 chinese Yuan, around 570 XMR
16:49:18 <monerobull[m]1> The Chinese thing probably got more xmr adoption than this
16:49:38 <jwinterm[m]> monerobull[m]1: it was a total scam, I think this is a lot more value tbh
16:49:42 <Siren[m]> sgp: off-topic but has your team looked into Maxima Lithuania cards yet?
16:50:00 <plowsof11> ok with 10 minutes left, we have a new ccs proposal posted today
16:50:06 <Siren[m]> * Maxima Lithuania (geradovana.lt) cards yet?
16:50:08 <monerobull[m]1> Throwing in failed proposals as a reason to fund this is not the great move you
think it is
16:50:27 <sgp[m]> Siren[m]: We probably can't add unless they have a real API. People don't like when we plug
in stuff they they don't know about. Bad for partnerships long term :(
16:50:40 <plowsof11> selsta (part-time) 3 months dev work https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-
proposals/-/merge_requests/372
16:50:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> jwinterm[m]: We arent doing scams anymore
16:50:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Not even small ones
16:50:47 <jwinterm[m]> monero on a sail boat sail https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/87627/get-a-
massive-monero-logo-on-a-sail-in-the-bermuda-one-two-yacht-race
16:50:53 <ofrnxmr[m]> Selsta to funding
16:50:55 <jwinterm[m]> appears to have been funded?
16:51:04 <ajs_[m]> selsta +1
16:51:04 <monerobull[m]1> monerobull[m]1: jwinterm @jwinterm:magicgrants.org:
16:51:08 <ofrnxmr[m]> jwinterm @jwinterm:magicgrants.org: monero isnt even mentioned in the movie
16:51:11 <monerobull[m]1> Selsta +1
16:51:12 <plowsof11> +1 for selsta
16:51:27 <ofrnxmr[m]> Move to funding right away
16:51:33 <jwinterm[m]> monerobull[m]1: I am just pointing out there have been "marketing" things funded in
past
16:51:35 <monerobull[m]1> Let's set a record from proposal to merge kek
16:51:37 <Rucknium[m]> +1 for selsta
16:51:54 <monerobull[m]1> jwinterm[m]: And they all turned out like shit
16:52:05 <selsta> <3
16:52:09 <jwinterm[m]> so did lots of other CCS things lol
16:52:09 <sgp[m]> +1 selsta
16:52:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> jwinterm @jwinterm:magicgrants.org: new year, new standards
16:52:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> I havent seen the movie and wont beg or share my address to see it. If it cant be
shared, it cant be voted on
16:53:06 <plowsof11> we have another open proposal - comit swaps improvement - 6 thumbs up 4 down - but the
sentiment in all the meetings has been to close
16:53:21 <ofrnxmr[m]> Does he expect everyone to contact him directly? Thats not how ccs works
16:53:28 <monerobull[m]1> I have an announcement to make before we leave. First ever Monerochan merch more
elaborate than a mug or t-shirt: https://monerosupplies.com/product/monerochan-standee/
16:53:43 <plowsof11> leito has asked if they should close the proposal https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-
project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/355#note_20532
16:53:49 <nioc> <ofrnxmr[m]> monero isnt even mentioned in the movie <<>> not a fact
16:54:09 <plowsof11> monero is mentioned 14 times in the movie
16:54:13 <monerobull[m]1> That doesn't count
16:54:14 <plowsof11> (i did not count)
16:54:21 <Siren[m]> monero isn't mentioned in any of the dialogues
16:54:34 <Siren[m]> but in songs playing in the strip club, correct me if I'm wrong
16:54:42 <nioc> you are wrong
16:54:45 <Stnby[m]> monerobull[m]1: expensive :(
16:54:47 <Siren[m]> and you only could pay attention to that because you know what monero is
16:54:51 <monerobull[m]1> Siren[m]: While Booba and cocaine
16:55:10 <Siren[m]> nioc: and your correction is? where is it in the dialogue?
16:55:10 <jwinterm[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: I'm not sure I 100% agree that he needs to show the movie to fundraise for
marketing. In the vast majority of CCS the applicant has nothing to show at the proposal stage, and things are
delivered as milestones, right?
16:55:16 <jwinterm[m]> I think he should, but not sure it's totally necessary
16:55:49 <nioc> Siren[m]: when the coin was first shown
16:55:54 <monerobull[m]1> No company pays for ads this way
16:55:58 <nioc> have you seen the movie?
16:56:02 <monerobull[m]1> With the ad already done but they can't see it
16:56:03 <Siren[m]> nioc: does he say "Monero"?
16:56:13 <monerobull[m]1> No
16:56:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> nioc: A background song isnt a mention
16:56:18 <Stnby[m]> nioc: can you post it, I have not seen it
16:56:22 <ofrnxmr[m]> Its not in a script
16:56:22 <plowsof11> nioc which character says Monero? did i miss it?
16:56:25 <nioc> as I recall yes, Have you seen the movie?
16:56:39 <Stnby[m]> hes asking for XMR to view it which is against the rules
16:56:46 <Siren[m]> nioc, send me it for free
16:57:00 <nioc> I can't
16:57:04 <Siren[m]> prove it
16:57:06 <nioc> link is gone
16:57:17 <Stnby[m]> proposal should be gone too
16:57:40 <Siren[m]> cyrptobro movie I swear
16:57:46 <Siren[m]> s/cyrptobro/cryptobro/
16:57:50 <nioc> Siren[m]: you are declaring things about something that you haven't see, that is my only point
16:58:09 <nioc> plowsof11 probably has a better memory
16:58:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Everybody want Elon to "say" Monero.
16:58:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Has tweeted things like "is it fungible though?" Much larger audience and more direct
than the movie
16:58:34 <monerobull[m]1> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Everybody want Elon to "say" Monero.
16:58:34 <monerobull[m]1> >
16:58:34 <monerobull[m]1> > Has tweeted things like "is it fungible though?" Much larger audience and more
direct than the movie
16:58:34 <monerobull[m]1> Elon tweeted "CryptoNote"
16:58:35 <ofrnxmr[m]> Why memory?
16:58:47 <ofrnxmr[m]> monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: also the fungible line
16:59:12 <sgp[m]> I think all points have been made on this CCS proposals and core needs to decide what to do
with it
16:59:14 <plowsof11> nioc im struggling to remember anyone actually saying the term monero (other than the
song) i would hope to be corrected if wrong, but my memory cant remember that
16:59:21 <sgp[m]> s/proposals/proposal/
16:59:40 <hinto[m]> <plowsof11> "leito has asked if they should..." <- i agree with close for now, re-open a
more organized ccs after showing work
16:59:41 <Siren[m]> nioc: Yes I have not seen it and I will not pay for it but the director himself says that
it's not in dialogue https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/371#note_20475
16:59:49 <plowsof11> thanks hinto
16:59:56 <Siren[m]> also plowsof and monerobull and others saw it
17:00:04 <Siren[m]> and they did not hear monero in a dialogue
17:00:13 <Siren[m]> I trust them, yes
17:00:41 <Stnby[m]> 150XMR for a single word, would still be lmao
17:00:42 <Siren[m]> If you're saying that you heard it, you should post a timestamp or a clip
17:00:46 <monerobull[m]1> I have a question and want your opinion before i embarrass myself with a ccs
proposal
17:00:46 <plowsof11> now im scared if ive been misleading everyone , but i genuinely did not hear it
17:00:47 <Siren[m]> otherwise I don't believe you
17:01:11 <Stnby[m]> Just close lol
17:01:17 <Stnby[m]> * close lol, its a scam
17:01:25 <Siren[m]> if even the people whose ears are conditioned to heard the word "monero" missed it, nobody
will fucking notice it
17:01:39 <nioc> Siren[m]: thx, must be the voices in my head
17:01:57 <plowsof11> the movie itself is high "oscar quality" (yes, i read the oscar rules ( from top to
bottom))
17:02:07 <Stnby[m]> doubt it
17:02:39 <Stnby[m]> what oscar will he get if it will end up on the 1337x.to the second it gets merged
17:02:42 <plowsof11> they have a requirement for the type of camera/film used and it meets the specs etc for a
short live action film
17:03:04 <nioc> so is selsta merged yet?
17:03:20 <selsta> nioc: i just opened it lol
17:04:09 <plowsof11> seems we've just went over time , thank you all for attending , AOB? there is an events
meeting in #monero-events:monero.social in 2 hours
17:04:12 <nioc> I just upvoted, can be merged now
17:04:37 <plowsof11> oh wait, i was trying to resolve a ccs proposal with 0.2xmr in limbo
17:04:48 <plowsof11> we need to say that it is abandonned first https://github.com/plowsof/ccs-wip-
list/issues/2
17:04:53 <plowsof11> thats all
17:04:59 <ofrnxmr[m]> Donate to alpharabius
17:05:08 <monerobull[m]1> Kek
17:05:14 <hinto[m]> checking once again: has plowsof gotten paid yet?
17:05:39 <ofrnxmr[m]> We need confirmation plowsof
17:05:40 <plowsof11> not ready for moneys, i have alot of testing for jberman to do, and lacking in site work
17:05:46 <MSvB[m]> Good meeting everyone and great moderation plowsof @plowsof:libera.chat, dankon.
17:05:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> We need CONFIRMSTION, not excuses
17:05:56 <dimmed6843[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-
proposals/-/merge_requests/371#note_20542
17:05:56 <dimmed6843[m]> This is bad ROI. Does our target audience even care about Oscars?
17:06:04 <Siren[m]> no, we don't care
17:06:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> How many payments have you had?
17:06:30 <plowsof11> i have also not resolved anything yet, 1 payment , i have no problems
17:06:46 <ofrnxmr[m]> Your term is 3 months
17:06:50 <ofrnxmr[m]> That only leaves a few days :P
17:06:52 <nioc> the CCS is just motivation for plowsof11 he is not actually getting paid
17:07:10 <Siren[m]> plowsof ccs is expiring?
17:07:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^^^^^^^
17:07:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> Id believe it
17:07:30 <plowsof11> no hours roll over after each period is claimed , so the beatings shall be renewed
17:07:31 <monerobull[m]1> Carrot on a stick
17:08:00 <plowsof11> <3
17:08:03 <monerobull[m]1> Can we discuss the German translation
17:08:10 <monerobull[m]1> Merge it
17:08:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> Lets
17:08:20 <ofrnxmr[m]> Agreed. Merge
17:08:29 <plowsof11> yes ercicione will merge as soon as he gains access to the weblate
17:08:29 <Stnby[m]> Merge!
17:08:39 <monerobull[m]1> And donate funds to GF if we don't hear from the guy within a year
17:08:41 <blankpage[m]> <monerobull[m]1> "I have a question and want..." <- What was this?
17:08:58 <plowsof11> i do not want to perhaps waste time discussing the next steps until "its closed" i do not
like to deal with fantasy
17:09:06 <monerobull[m]1> Translation is done, sitting only partially reviewed on weblate
17:09:33 <Siren[m]> plowsof11: I just low how translations were essentially dead because nobody realized the
translation coordinator was AFK
17:09:35 <plowsof11> per your feedback monerobull and another (if they wish to name themsleve) it will be
merged
17:09:38 <Siren[m]> s/low/love/
17:09:50 <plowsof11> so thank you for pushing it forward after a year
17:09:58 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: meanwhile someone was raging at me for asking if I can submit a PR for some
langs
17:10:39 <Stnby[m]> Can we elect some lang coordinator some time in the future?
17:10:44 <monerobull[m]1> I've spent like 3 hours reviewing it and while it's not perfect, we can just merge
it, better than leaving the video subtitles on YouTube the way they are right now
17:10:47 <plowsof11> the german translation can be found in these issues, ive attempted to pick the issues
that we can resolve together https://github.com/plowsof/ccs-wip-list/issues
17:11:01 <monerobull[m]1> They are only German for 2 minutes and the go to English
17:11:01 <Siren[m]> Stnby[m]: can we simply not have one?
17:11:10 <Siren[m]> let weblate or some shit merge based on votes
17:11:31 <plowsof11> (realistically)
17:11:39 <plowsof11> ercicione has a language coordinator in training called michaelizer but this is yet to be
confirmed, there is a 'history' there im not fully aware of
17:11:39 <Siren[m]> as those lang coordinators don't care nor help with anything
17:11:40 <Siren[m]> other than locking themselves out
17:11:45 <ofrnxmr[m]> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: what is the point of 6 months vs 3 months if it can be
extended arbitrarily
17:12:04 <ofrnxmr[m]> Claim your milestones and open a new ccs.
17:12:06 <Siren[m]> how in the hell didn't ercicione notice that other one being AFK for so long?
17:12:07 <Stnby[m]> voting would not work, If I translated something in Lithuanian. I am the only one in this
chat :DDD
17:12:13 <ofrnxmr[m]> If you want to do it for free, lower your price..
17:12:26 <plowsof11> my own failings have extended it, ive promised hours on testing/site (my gui
contirbutions are ok though)
17:12:50 <Siren[m]> Siren[m]: thanks to them you will not have turkish/lithuanian/azerbaijani translations
17:12:52 <plowsof11> soon(tm)
17:13:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Low closes out his ccs after the months are up
17:13:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> Koe*
17:13:12 <ofrnxmr[m]> And opens a new one
17:13:31 <ofrnxmr[m]> What youre doing is just getting screwed into the 6 month deal. Unacceptable
17:13:50 <plowsof11> motivation to pull myself out of it, when i have worked the hours promised sir
17:14:14 <blankpage[m]> Research like Koe's always has less concrete deliverables, so it makes sense to do it
on X months basis
17:14:16 <Siren[m]> plowsof11: not really https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-
proposals/-/merge_requests/348#what
17:14:24 <plowsof11> i have been busy trying to get a custom fee of 420.69 xmr on testnet for example
17:14:40 <Siren[m]> they need to pay you
17:14:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> ^^^^
17:15:40 <Siren[m]> plowsof11: that's not in your proposal
17:15:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> Consensus says pay plowsof regardless of what HE thinks
17:15:44 <Siren[m]> ask them for payment
17:15:55 <ofrnxmr[m]> ofrnxmr[m]: Opposite of mj
17:16:10 <plowsof11> thank you for the support, i would feel comfortable to get something resolved and finish
off a few things asap
17:16:11 <plowsof11> lol
17:17:19 <Siren[m]> plowsof11: if it's not about coordinating or providing feedback, please don't wait
17:18:23 <plowsof11> i ave learned all the memes in -community also
17:18:59 <monerobull[m]1> I doubt that
17:19:12 <monerobull[m]1> ALL the memes?
17:19:16 <Stnby[m]> Core release the funds to plowsof please. Thanks sars.
17:19:24 <ofrnxmr[m]> luigi1111:
17:19:36 <ofrnxmr[m]> I second Stnby: statement. Release the funds
17:19:40 <monerobull[m]1> Plowsof just doesn't want to redeem
17:19:59 <Stnby[m]> Maybe he is threatened by them, you never know
17:20:22 <Siren[m]> I would like to submit a proposal (150 XMR) for conducting the monero sleep experiment on
plowsof. We will keep him awake for the duration of the proposal.
17:20:23 <ofrnxmr[m]> Who is he proving himself to? Not us.
17:20:52 <Lovera[m]> Thanks guys for your comments! A little be later to the meeting sorry! Hi everyone
17:20:57 <ofrnxmr[m]> We all (I think) agree that he should be paid
17:21:02 <selsta> +1
17:21:08 <ceetee[m]> +1
17:21:10 <plowsof11> lovera your proposal will be merged asap
17:21:48 <Lovera[m]> plowsof11: Actually I’m reading all comments ! Thank you for your support
17:24:26 <eudaimon36[m]> +1 most certainly
17:26:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> Hinto, stnby, selsta, eudaimon, Ceetee, siren and myself:
17:26:48 <ofrnxmr[m]> pay plowsof
17:27:17 <plowsof11> 5 of my alts would say that
17:27:25 <eudaimon36[m]> lol
17:27:40 <ofrnxmr[m]> golden0: can you chime in
17:27:54 <plowsof11> how isnt he banned
17:28:04 <nioc> I have already conducted a successful sleep experiment on plowsof11 resulting in an improved
version
17:28:09 <ofrnxmr[m]> Because he was nice
17:28:10 <ofrnxmr[m]> He never left DM either
17:28:16 <ofrnxmr[m]> OMG why
17:28:27 <plowsof11> he harassed us via PM
17:28:28 <plowsof11> lol
17:28:49 <plowsof11> can not forgive the emotional trauma he has caused me
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