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Alternative wiki module for Moodle 2 (designed for use in teaching and learning)
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regression: missing statistics and analysis view of all activity in pages (and per student), compared to Moodle 19 version #15

Closed nadavkav closed 11 years ago

nadavkav commented 11 years ago

I was going throughout the UI and the PHP code and... It seems like the statistics and analysis view of all activity in pages (and per student) is missing from the Moodle 2+ version, compared to Moodle 19 version.

Is this true or am I missing it?

jason-platts commented 11 years ago

Are you referring to the 'Wiki reports' page (reportssummary.php)?

Similar functionality exists in the Moodle 2 version in the 'Participation by user' screen (participation.php).

nadavkav commented 11 years ago

Yes, I am referring to the 'Wiki reports' page (reportssummary.php) Which display : (1) Page Contributors Edits Comments First edit Last edit Words Links Intensity* (2) The Amazing!!! Timeline of edit activity by page (3) Activity by user - Name First edit Last edit Days Created pages Edited pages Edits Comments Total contributions

It can not be compared to the current: 'Participation by user' (participation.php) page. really. Any chance you are planning on implementing the same functionality?

sammarshallou commented 11 years ago

This decision was before Jason was involved, so I'll try to explain - although my memory is terrible so I might actually not be remembering this right...

Basically, sorry, but we decided to rethink this feature because while it was really cool (that may be a biased opinion because I did the software design for it), it was complicated and not actually useful for our teaching.

It's one of those features that was specified by working with an academic who had particular research interests, which kind of skewed what got developed...

Instead the Participation feature is designed to be consistent with the same features in OU blog and ForumNG, so it should be easy for teachers/students to understand and use and get the key information they need when they are trying to assess participation in the wiki (or a blog or a forum).

If you're interested in implementing a similar feature in future, I suggest this should be separate from the main ouwiki code. Instead it could be done as a block or something like that which could be added to the wiki page and then would provide links to show similar fancy presentations of the data (by looking at the ouwiki tables).

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jason-platts commented 11 years ago

As sam says, you might be able to develop a report that gets the information that you specifically need - either in Moodle or even just directly get data from DB.

There are no plans in our development roadmap to add any extra functionality to the participation screen I'm afraid.

nadavkav commented 11 years ago

Thank you both for the detailed explanation! And if i may... "it was really cool (that may be a biased opinion because I was using it)" :-)

Since we are also using the block configurable_reports, I guess that we will be implementing several custom SQL reports for our Teachers and Students that are very similar to the ones they had on Moodle 19 (Other wise, I am consider dead for pushing them into Moodle 2 from the "heavenly blessed" Moodle 19 the are currently using)

Thanks :-)