Can F13- F24 as modify keys ?

[ifnk]

like this ! `import re from xkeysnail.transform import *

define_multipurpose_modmap( {Key.CAPSLOCK: [Key.ESC, Key.F14]} )

define_keymap(None, {

K("F13"): K("esc"),

    K("F14-l"): K("right"),
    K("F14-k"): K("up"),
    K("F14-h"): K("left"),
    K("F14-j"): K("down"),
    K("F14-p"): K("page_up"),
    K("F14-u"): K("home"),
    K("F14-o"): K("end"),

})`

[rbreaves]

You can do those keys, but be aware that some DEs do not like working with F keys above F12, specifically XFCE.

As a result I have had to use other keys such as a backslash to do what I needed done. The XFCE limitation was likely due more to the DE's ability to bind to those keys, the OS itself, according to xbindkeys could still sense and pass the F keys (as their media key value XF86Tools = F13, but as far as using it for certain keybindings in the actual DE.. that was not possible for whatever reason - but admittingly Alt-Tab is a very tricky one to remap in general.)

define_keymap(None,{
    # Basic App hotkey functions
    K("RC-Q"): K("Alt-F4"),
    K("RC-H"): K("Alt-F9"),
    # Cmd Tab - App Switching Default
    K("RC-Tab"): K("RC-F13"),                     # Default not-xfce4
    K("RC-Shift-Tab"): K("RC-Shift-F13"),         # Default not-xfce4
    K("RC-Grave"): K("M-F6"),                     # Default not-xfce4
    K("RC-Shift-Grave"): K("M-Shift-F6"),         # Default not-xfce4
    # K("RC-Tab"): K("RC-backslash"),               # xfce4
    # K("RC-Shift-Tab"): K("RC-Shift-backslash"),   # xfce4
    # K("RC-Grave"): K("RC-Shift-backslash"),       # xfce4

[iterating]

The only allowed modifier keys are Ctrl, Alt, Shift, and Super(Meta). F13 to F18 can be mapped as normal keys, as well as F21-23, SCALE DASHBOARD CALC, PROG2-4, phone, finance, shop, sport, and chat.

Alt tab and ctrl-f13 can flip windows.

[rbreaves]

Hmmm well my assumption is that they’d work, but perhaps xkeysnail might need those F keys to be added to a modifier key array now that I think about it.

[iterating]

Would window managers be able to use these new modifier keys?

[rbreaves]

Would window managers be able to use these new modifier keys?

Revising, I am not certain, but I wouldn’t expect xfce to. Also Mate on ARM may have difficulties from what RedBear has recently been reporting to me. The arm issue may be an issue w/ xkbcomp related files not covering/supporting the same keyboard layout as most distros. That’s what I suspect any ways, could be wrong on the reason.

It’s also very dependent on the DE, Budgie hard coded Alt-Tab to only use expected modifiers on Windows Switching, except for Ctrl & yet other parts of the DE I think could bind to any combo.

Note: redbear reports issues to me via my Kinto.sh project which uses xkeysnail.

[iterating]

Yes, it would helpful to have dedicated modifier keys for certain actions. It could open up the possibility of a OS wide Vim like experience of computing.

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Hmmm well my assumption is that they’d work, but perhaps xkeysnail might need those F keys to be added to a modifier key array now that I think about it.

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[joshgoebel]

xkeysnail might need those F keys to be added to a modifier key array now that I think about it.

It would indeed [need them added to the Modifier class] to use them as modifiers in keymap combos...

Yes, it would helpful to have dedicated modifier keys for certain actions.

Can you provide a few specific example of "certain actions"?

[joshgoebel]

Yes, it would helpful to have dedicated modifier

@iterating My fork now allows adding new modifiers (from the keymappers perspective) - though it may still come down to whether the software you're using will properly support those keys or not. For example Fn can now be used as a modifier (for keyboards that support it... and I'm using a new Hyper modifier for all my WM key combos - though I did have to use xmodmap to tell X about the new modifier and assign it to the virtual mod3 key...

https://github.com/joshgoebel/keyszer