Proposal: rename source files

[data-man]

Very interesting project, thank you!

Please rename: *.C -> *.cpp. *.H -> *.hpp.

These are non-standard extensions and incompatible with many case-sensitive tools!

[smunix]

Can you elaborate a little more? What tool are you having issues with? What do you use Hobbes for?

[data-man]

E.g. It's confusing.

What tool are you having issues with?

E.g. mcedit (Midnight Commander file manager) doesn't apply C++ syntax colouring to these file extensions.

What do you use Hobbes for?

Just discovered Hobbes and exploring the sources. :)

[smunix]

I'm not sure what the standard file extensions for C++ are. Looking at the link below, this is mostly a business organization question than a technical one, so I'm not sure what the added value would be to change this now: https://isocpp.org/wiki/faq/coding-standards#src-file-ext

Also, it looks like this is configurable with mc. It might as well be addressed there directly? https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/blob/c8649068d30ef02277ab897c2b131736d24937af/misc/filehighlight.ini#L37

[data-man]

Also, it looks like this is configurable with mc.

Are you suggesting adjusting all tools due to a single project? :) Ok, I can provide a much longer list. E.g. tokei:

Language	Files	Lines	Code	Comments	Blanks
C	112	48910	39660	2372	6878
C Header	121	39933	33361	2347	4225
CMake	2	151	124	2	25
Dockerfile	1	6	6	0	0
Happy	1	1046	883	0	163
Makefile	1	223	187	6	30
Nix	3	188	167	0	21
Python	2	1308	1231	49	28
ReStructuredText	19	2537	1576	0	961
Shell	3	46	27	6	13
Vim script	1	56	48	3	5
Markdown	8	1738	0	1344	394
C++	1	260	192	27	41
(Total)		1998	192	1371	435
Total	274	96142	77270	6129	12743

[smunix]

I never suggested changing all tools, no. I was merely suggesting a workaround for your use with mc, if you can afford to do so. I believe none of these filename extensions are uniformly superior to any other ones, and would like to see what value the proposal to change these files extensions adds to Hobbes. If you can articulate around that point, I'd be happy to see what we can do to improve the situation.

[data-man]

https://isocpp.org/wiki/faq/coding-standards#hdr-file-ext Q: What header-file-name convention is best? foo.H? foo.hh? foo.hpp? A: If you already have a convention, use it. If not, and if you don’t need your editor to distinguish between C and C++ files, simply use .h. Otherwise use whatever the editor wants, such as .H, .hh, or .hpp. We’ve tended to use either .h or .hpp for our C++ header files.

[smunix]

fwiw, other Hobbes users are on .H and .C and use different tools. It would be nice to know how crippling the current extensions (our de-facto standard) are for them, as well as the impact of changing these extensions.

[data-man]

It would be nice to know how crippling the current extensions (our de-facto standard) are for them

Just enable GH Discussions in this repo and ask them. :)

[smunix]

@data-man - I'm a little curious to hear about your impressions of Hobbes, how you intend to use it and how you landed on it? Would you mind sharing?

[data-man]

@smunix

your impressions of Hobbes

I have no impressions because Hobbes is incompatible with LLVM 13 (at least).

how you intend to use it

Learning LLVM API and using knowledge for C3 language. :)

[kthielen]

If all you want to do is learn the LLVM API, why don't you just work through their Kaleidoscope example? https://llvm.org/docs/tutorial/MyFirstLanguageFrontend/index.html

LLVM frequently makes breaking changes for little benefit (sometimes even causing performance regressions), so if you're happy being on the upgrade treadmill then just going right to the source there is your shortest path.

HTH.

[smunix]

I believe we can reasonably close this. Feel free to re-open if you're still interested in this.