Closed edrushka closed 8 years ago
What system is used to create this email?
@ScottDowne is this thank you email generated through Stripe?
@edrushka Not Stripe, it's our own thing.
Adding @jbuck
So what is the existing data flow from (Stripe, Paypal) into "our own thing" that generates the thank you email?
@rkent I'll lay it out here:
charge.succeeded
event to SawmillTo make this better I think we should move all of the sawmill/lumberyard email webooks/rendering/sending directly into donate.mozilla.org . It'll make changes much easier.
@jbuck That sounds like a one-time process. How then does the user contact information from Stripe and Paypal populate a database that can be used for contact with donors later (using some combination of Salesforce and ET)?
How is the basket message triggered? Somehow the data has to get from Stripe/Paypal into basket. Since basket is a web service, something is sending it a web request. What is that something?
On 2/3/2016 3:27 PM, Jon Buckley wrote:
We send a newsletter subscription to ET via basket http://basket.readthedocs.org/en/latest/newsletter_api.html#news-subscribe
— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mozilla/donate.mozilla.org/issues/1293#issuecomment-179528543.
Is the underlying confusion here that rkent thinks that everyone who makes a donation will get signed up to a mailing list, when in fact the sign-up-to-a-mailing-list part is a separate, optional form managed by Exact Target?
Ah right, sorry. After the user makes the donation, they get redirected to https://donate.mozilla.org/thank-you/ where they can sign up for the newsletter via Basket
jbuck: We'd need a separate list for this one (people specifically interested in Thunderbird stuff). Will that be a problem?
Gerv
OK thanks, that clarifies things. I'm trying to understand all of the pieces, so that as we prepare text we understand what they will be used for.
@rkent you may find the PDF's in the last comment helpful: https://github.com/MozillaFoundation/2015-fundraising/issues/23#issuecomment-123630737
Note that these are from 2014, but from a user perspective, it's still more or less the same. I'd be happy to meet and walk you through this if it would be helpful.
That's not a valid link (or it is hidden from me). Could you try to find one that I can view, or email the PDF to me directly?
On 2/4/2016 10:10 AM, Erika Drushka wrote:
@rkent https://github.com/rkent you may find the PDF's in the last comment helpful: MozillaFoundation/2015-fundraising#23 (comment) https://github.com/MozillaFoundation/2015-fundraising/issues/23#issuecomment-123630737
Note that these are from 2014, but from a user perspective, it's still more or less the same. I'd be happy to meet and walk you through this if it would be helpful.
— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mozilla/donate.mozilla.org/issues/1293#issuecomment-179973810.
Sure thing. Just emailed to the address associated with your GH account. You can reach me at erikad@mozillafoundation.org if that didn't work (I couldn't find you in the Moz phone book).
FYI @rkent out-of-the box Stripe sends an automatic receipt to donors with the amount they donated -- but it was built primarily for carts / purchases. Stripe limits your ability to customize that email. We opted to build a separate flow in order to include legally required information about tax status; donor email for Qs etc.
So with your separate flow, does the donor also get the automatic receipt from Stripe or did you suppress that?
BTW I've used Fastspring for my own purposes as a payment processor and have been very satisfied with them, so I have a little experience myself here (but of course with a volume a couple of orders of magnitude lower).
On 2/4/2016 10:49 AM, Andrea Wood wrote:
FYI @rkent https://github.com/rkent out-of-the box Stripe sends an automatic receipt to donors with the amount they donated -- but it was built primarily for carts / purchases. Stripe limits your ability to customize that email. We opted to build a separate flow in order to include legally required information about tax status; donor email for Qs etc.
— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mozilla/donate.mozilla.org/issues/1293#issuecomment-179997268.
We disabled the automatic Stripe receipt
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:01 PM, R Kent James notifications@github.com wrote:
So with your separate flow, does the donor also get the automatic receipt from Stripe or did you suppress that?
BTW I've used Fastspring for my own purposes as a payment processor and have been very satisfied with them, so I have a little experience myself here (but of course with a volume a couple of orders of magnitude lower).
On 2/4/2016 10:49 AM, Andrea Wood wrote:
FYI @rkent https://github.com/rkent out-of-the box Stripe sends an automatic receipt to donors with the amount they donated -- but it was built primarily for carts / purchases. Stripe limits your ability to customize that email. We opted to build a separate flow in order to include legally required information about tax status; donor email for Qs etc.
— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub < https://github.com/mozilla/donate.mozilla.org/issues/1293#issuecomment-179997268 .
— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mozilla/donate.mozilla.org/issues/1293#issuecomment-180003149 .
Here is copy for the text:
Thunderbird is the leading open source cross-platform email and calendaring client, free for business and personal use. By donating you've helped ensure it stays that way and contributed towards future development. Every gift is so important. On behalf of all of us, thank you so much for your donation to Mozilla Thunderbird.
Also, changes from the Mozilla email: 1) From: The Thunderbird Team thunderbird-donate@mozilla.org 2) Subject: Thank you for your gift to Mozilla Thunderbird 3) donor FAQ link: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Donate 4) If you still need help .... address: thunderbird-donate@mozilla.org 5) TODO: How to cancel a recurring donation? Our team will not have the power to do this. 6) Text at bottom beginning "Contributions go to ..." needs to follow whatever language is agreed in issue #1322
:ok_hand: I think we're ready to hand this over to the dev, @rkent. Hopefully we can get something up on staging this heartbeat (by Feb 26). Thanks for getting all this copy together!
Suggest modify "By donating you've helped ensure it stays that way and contributed towards future development." to "By donating, you've contributed towards product development, and helped ensure Thunderbird stays free and open."
That results in a double-up on the words "open" and "free", when all put together.
Agree, the repetition may be substandard writing style. But I dislike the use of "that way" as a means of emphasis because it is somewhat confusing/non-specific, and the change does emphasize what seems to be important points. Doesn't seem to overbearing to me. But I defer to Kent.
How's this for a compromise:
Thunderbird is the leading open source cross-platform email and calendaring client. By donating, you've contributed towards product development, and helped ensure Thunderbird stays free and open. Every gift is so important. On behalf of all of us, thank you so much for your donation to Mozilla Thunderbird.
Sorry about the delay – I think the compromise reads fine.
Anyone know the status on this? Sounds like a dev was needed but it doesn't look like that ever happened?
Does this need me to do anything?
It seems like someone needs to make sure that the thank you email sent out when someone donates (via Stripe) matches what rkent says in his comment just above. jbuck seemed to suggest this mail was generated by Sawmill?
Yeah, this makes sense now.
@cadecairos is this something you can do? I'm not sure how @alicoding has the donation configured to be flagged for thunderbird or not, or how to send the webhhook in a way that sawmill can distinguish between two templates.
Thoughts?
People who make successful donations and provide their email address automatically receive a Thank You email receipt (image below). Please provide the copy you'd like in this email. cc @gerv @rkent