translations?

[renarena]

@DonnKey, i found aesop player and i think its really great! BUT... i need it for nonenglish speaking users. Is there an ability to internationalize aesopPlayer/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml ? I would be glad to provide german translations. I this it is especially important for spoken texts like:

    <string name="audio_prompt_slower">Slower</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_faster">Faster</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_louder">Louder</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_softer">Softer</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_normal">Normal</string>

    <string name="audio_prompt_slower">langsamer</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_faster">schneller</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_louder">lauter</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_softer">leiser</string>
    <string name="audio_prompt_normal">normal</string>

As i have no knowledge about android programming i dont know how to change it/compile it by myself.

[DonnKey]

The translations are kept in a separate file that can be updated without programming, although I've never done that and don't know the procedure. Homer Player has at least French, but no-one has stepped forward to do any for Aesop - there would be a lot of overlap, and they use identical methods for storing the translations. Translations are not usually done by the program author, or maybe for one other language. I tried to update Polish translations that @msimonides had started, but I don't actually know Polish. I'm sure there are some significant errors in the Polish. I'd have no hope of doing German.

Marcin may have more knowledge of how to do this, since I had the impression that there were several languages supported. If there is a German translation for Homer, maybe the author of that translation could help with Aesop?

DonnKey

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 3:48 AM rena @.***> wrote:

@DonnKey https://github.com/DonnKey, i found aesop player and i think its really great! BUT... i need it for nonenglish speaking users. Is there an ability to internationalize aesopPlayer/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml ? I would be glad to provide german translations. I this it is especially important for spoken texts like: Slower Faster Louder Softer Normal

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[msimonides]

@DonnKey, adding a new language is just a matter of adding a strings.xml file in a values-<locale> folder. But if you want to make it really easy for users to translate the app, in their browser, without fiddling with XML, you could use one of the many services for collaborative translation. I am aware of two that have a free plan for small projects but I haven't used any of them myself yet: https://crowdin.com and https://localazy.com

I didn't set this up for Homer Player because the main user only interacts with the "start" and "stop" buttons. Settings are used by the more tech-savvy user configuring the device. But I see how this is different for Aesop.

@renarena, this is github for Homer Player project upon which Aesop Player is built. They are distinct projects. I don't mind the issue being filed here and you already got in touch with the author of Aesop, so all is good. Feel free to communicate here further. However, I will close this issue in a few days because I don't consider translations a priority for Homer at the moment.

[DonnKey]

@msimonides: I won't claim GitHub expertise to be sure, but I was unable to find an "Issues" section for the Aesop fork, just in the main (Homer) fork. Thus we might be stuck with what actually happened. You can close the issue when you wish.

@renarena: I'm not currently able to look into those translation tools, but if you want to experiment, I'd be willing to add translation files that were sent to me. As Marcin notes, there are only a few words that the non-expert user would need translated, and as far as I know partial translations work fine (it just falls back to the default language if there isn't a translation). (You've identified the most important ones, since Start and Stop are color-coded as well.)

DonnKey

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 8:56 AM Marcin Simonides @.***> wrote:

@DonnKey https://github.com/DonnKey, adding a new language is just a matter of adding a strings.xml file in a values- folder https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/localization#creating-alternatives . But if you want to make it really easy for users to translate the app, in their browser, without fiddling with XML, you could use one of the many services for collaborative translation. I am aware of two that have a free plan for small projects but I haven't used any of them myself yet: https://crowdin.com and https://localazy.com

I didn't set this up for Homer Player because the main user only interacts with the "start" and "stop" buttons. Settings are used by the more tech-savvy user configuring the device. But I see how this is different for Aesop.

@renarena https://github.com/renarena, this is github for Homer Player project upon which Aesop Player is built. They are distinct projects. I don't mind the issue being filed here and you already got in touch with the author of Aesop, so all is good. Feel free to communicate here further. However, I will close this issue in a few days because I don't consider translations a priority for Homer at the moment.

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[renarena]

@DonnKey: The most important words are the 5 lines i translated in my first post. The ones spoken to the user. And maybe the word "paused" which is "pausiert" or simply "Pause" I can change the words in xml, but i dont know how to compile an .apk from it.

[DonnKey]

It may take me a few days to get to it, but if you can provide the xml file, I can do the rest without too much trouble. (I'm in the middle of something messy right now.) (Either mail or a pull request would be fine, as long as it's in the right format: the same as the English and Polish versions. If you want credit for it, a PR would be better.)

DonnKey

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:54 AM rena @.***> wrote:

@DonnKey https://github.com/DonnKey: The most important words are the 5 lines i translated in my first post. The ones spoken to the user. And maybe the word "paused" which is "pausiert" or simply "Pause" I can change the words in xml, but i dont know how to compile an .apk from it.

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[renarena]

Created an pull request - I hope i have done it correct. I would be glad if aesop player could be available in fdroid or from @IzziSoft also. See https://github.com/msimonides/homerplayer/issues/20

[DonnKey]

I don't see a PR for either Homer or Aesop. Be sure to do it for Aesop for this request.

It's unlikely that I'll find the time or energy to deal with the issues in

20 for Aesop, at least without a more compelling reason than I've heard.

DonnKey

On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 8:45 AM rena @.***> wrote:

Created an pull request - I hope i have done it correct. I would be glad if aesop player could be available in fdroid or from @IzziSoft also. See #20 https://github.com/msimonides/homerplayer/issues/20

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[renarena]

https://github.com/renarena/aesopPlayer/pulls

Dont know why its not showing up here.

[msimonides]

I won't claim GitHub expertise to be sure, but I was unable to find an "Issues" section for the Aesop fork, just in the main (Homer) fork.

@DonnKey, you can enable "Issues" in repository settings in github: https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/enabling-features-for-your-repository/disabling-issues

I see there's a pull-request for Aesop, so I'm closing this issue.

[renarena]

Maybe you can use the translation for homer too?

[DonnKey]

I see the PR now (properly set up). Something changed to make it visible. I'm not sure what, although it MIGHT have been enabling "Issues" (grasping at straws, possibly).

I won't get to it immediately, but fairly soon. I'll have to "rediscover" the build process and update Android Studio, among other things. Hopefully Google hasn't done anything to complicate things.

Much of the translation would apply to Homer, but there are a few instances where the "string name" has changed, and of course there are all the additional strings in Aesop that might want to be removed for Homer.

Donn

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 9:59 AM rena @.***> wrote:

Maybe you can use the translation for homer too?

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[DonnKey]

Sigh... I got the version with the German translation built, and it looks fine locally. However, I can't put it in the store -- see this website: https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/target-sdk It fails on upload. I have no idea how much trouble moving to API 30 will be, since it now is November and that is required. I updated GitHub, and put the .apk as a release if you want to do it that way.

Donn

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:35 AM Donn Terry @.***> wrote:

I see the PR now (properly set up). Something changed to make it visible. I'm not sure what, although it MIGHT have been enabling "Issues" (grasping at straws, possibly).

I won't get to it immediately, but fairly soon. I'll have to "rediscover" the build process and update Android Studio, among other things. Hopefully Google hasn't done anything to complicate things.

Much of the translation would apply to Homer, but there are a few instances where the "string name" has changed, and of course there are all the additional strings in Aesop that might want to be removed for Homer.

Donn

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 9:59 AM rena @.***> wrote:

Maybe you can use the translation for homer too?

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