How to become a member ?

[mulle-nat]

Comment in this thread and you will be sent an invite to the mulle-objc organization. By default github will make you a private member. But only public members are useful to the project and will get an invite to the mulle-objc slack.

How to be come a public member

To become a public member, after becoming a regular member, visit https://github.com/orgs/mulle-objc/people. Look for your name in the first column, and in the third column change your security setting from private to public. Done!

If your email-address is not in your public github profile, send it by email to nat-github-slack@mulle-kybernetik.com. Your email address is needed for the Slack invite.

Official Github instructions how to become a public member.

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And here is a "how to" with more detail:

An email with the invitation will be sent by github. In the email their will be a link. Be sure to be logged into github before clicking the link. Then click the link. You should see something like this:

You can also periodically visit mulle-objc to see, if you got an invite. Then it should look like this:

where the button leads you to the invitation page.

Markers

The membership processing status can be seen from your posts markers:

Marker	Meaning
❤️	Member invite sent
🎉	Member invite resent
👍	Slack invite sent

Markers may not be visible on the mobile version of GitHub

If you expect an invite for membership or slack access, but haven't gotten one yet: just email me or post again in this thread.

[mxms0]

Interested :-)

[vtsingaras]

Me too.

[thecatalinstan]

I'm also very interested.

[jeethu]

I'm interested!

[mvasilkov]

Please inv, I'm very interested in Obj-C.

[jrc]

Let's #MakeObjCGreatAgain!

[g3ntleman]

What a great effort. Thought about similar things. Please invite me.

[apple4ever]

Super interested!

[hyunh90]

What a fantastic project! I would like to be a part of it!

With the emergence of Swift, people are acting weirdly and started to treat Objective-C as a soon-to-be-dead language or whatsoever, which is a complete nonsense! But, I cannot deny that since the release of Swift I wanted Apple to release Objective-C to public as well, as a cross-platform, just like Swift. I looked into Cocotron, GNUSTEP, but they were somewhat not satisfying, so I was doing some hobby project called objc2csharp. Now we have this wonderful project.

I am probably off the Apple platform rather sooner than later, but I don't really like anything else besides C and ObjC [...]

Indeed sir, indeed.

*) I know that they are mere re-implementation of Foundation and Cocoa.

[mulle-nat]

@ardiefox Lets make the best out of it. My feeling is that Cocotron and GNUStep are somewhat content with catching up with whatever Apple is doing and not doing anything more, but mulle-objc is a chance to shape the language ourselves.

[thecatalinstan]

@ardiefox, @mulle-nat I've been looking forward to the day when I would be able to do my web work with objective-c and have it deployed on Linux as well as OS X. I took care of the first part (through criollo and its preceding project) and I can't wait to be able to make the first one a reality as well.

I've also looked into Cocotron and GNUStep (and event went as far as trying Darling). This looks to me like the way forward.

I don't really like anything else besides C and ObjC

MakeObjCGreatAgain

[florianbuerger]

Oh that is interesting. Would love to be part of it.

[wprice]

Interested in joining as a member.

[psing008]

Would love to dive into Clang :)

[vtsingaras]

I don't see the slack invite. My email is vyronas@vtsingaras.me

[mulle-nat]

@vtsingaras

Checklist :)

Are you a member ? You must have gotten two invites via GitHub. Are you a public member ? See first link how to become one

Answer to both is NO, so no slack invite yet.

[vtsingaras]

vtsingaras commented 6 days ago Me too. <- I had commented. How do I become a member?

[mulle-nat]

I sent you an invite via GitHub, you should have gotten a mail or a notification. On the top right of your GitHub screen there is a bell-shaped icon. When you click on it, the invitation should be there amongst possibly other messages, I would assume. I can't make you a member myself. You have to accept the invite.

I canceled the invite and sent you a new one, just to make sure. It said:

You've invited Vyronas Tsingaras to mulle-objc Community! 
They'll be receiving an email shortly. 
They can also visit https://github.com/mulle-objc to accept the invitation. 

[vtsingaras]

Strange, I searched my emails for emails originated from GitHub and didn't have any fo mulle-objc. Anyway, now I saw the invite and have accepted it, thanks!

[mulle-nat]

Now you just have to become public :) HOWTO: become a public member

[vtsingaras]

Done :)

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Now you just have to become public :) HOWTO: become a public member https://help.github.com/articles/publicizing-or-hiding-organization-membership/

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[daniel-beard]

Please add me as well.

[3a4oT]

ready to explore

[josh64x2]

I'd love to join in the fun :)

[netbsduser]

I'd be very interested.

[serjepatoff]

Please add me too!

[clozinski]

I am interested in becoming a member, and in writing a Python interpreter in Mulle-Objc. https://blogory.org/mulle-objc

[mulle-nat]

I have the feeling, that the invites are sometimes not properly sent by github. So in addition to the heart, i will reply here and CC the outstanding requests in this thread like so:

Pending Invitations
@clozinski
@serjepatoff

[clozinski]

It was quite difficult to join the organizatoin. You want to add instructions at the top of this page. First post here, you got that part, then when invited go to https://github.com/mulle-objc click on the button on the right to join.

The Github instructions were terrile. I thought I had to go to my home page to join this oranization.

[mulle-nat]

I would like to put something directly on https://github.com/mulle-objc, but I think I can only list repositories there. I reworded the top blurb in this issue to make the process clearer hopefully. Is it better now ?

[clozinski]

I am still quite confused about how the process works.

I would say something like the following. To become a member, just post on this issue. I will send you an email invitation to both this organization, and to the slack channel. Just click on the buttons and you are done.

(Editor's note: Otherwise new people spend way way too much time clickign around trying to figure out what to do. If I were not motivaed, I would have given up earlier. )

[mulle-nat]

Yeah but that changes the semantics of the game. Because people are then just private. There is no real benefit of someone being a private mulle-objc member either for the member or the organization (at the moment).

People, who want to ask a question or discuss something quickly, can just put up a new issue here.

[clozinski]

Well that looks better. Here is what you want to add.

So becoming a member is a three stage process. First add a comment on this issue tracker.
If your email is visible on github, I will send you an email. Click on the button, and you become a private member. Then go to this web page https://github.com/orgs/mulle-objc/people Find your name in the first column, and in the second column change your security setting to public. I will then invite you to the slack user group.

For those who have done this on github before, not a problem, for the new user, what a pain. But I do want to make it easier for those who follow in my footsteps.

And the github docs say my photo is on the right. In fact it is on the left. Just makes me not trust the docs.
So do not mention them, just give the person the URL to the list of people. Saves much effort. The more a person has to click , the bigger chance of loosing them.

Hope that helps.

[mulle-nat]

I updated the blurb with your suggestions. I think it looks good now.

[mtecza]

I followed your Optimising Obj-C series many years ago, and too like Obj-C to live.

[mulle-nat]

Thx for joining. @mtecza If you want slack access you need to become a public member (see first post).

[slaughterj]

I have not programmed much in Objective C, but I really like the language and would hate to see it fade into obscurity with the advent of Swift. I'm glad a project like this exists.

[codeon-nat]

Thanks. Appreciate the sentiment!

[PythonLinks]

It is much deeper than just liking a language. There are two world views. Diametrically opposed. Static Binding and Dynamic Binding. Lisp, Python, and Objective-C support dynamic binding. C++, Swift, Java and GoLang are statically bound. Kind of hard to have abstraction with static binding. Only limited abstraction. Certainly no such thing as a list of various types of things.

The problem is that software is very trendy. Subject to fads. The prime example is Objective-C. If you know your history, the hot item first was C, then Objective-C (1984?), then C++, then Objective-C (2008?), and now Swift. So it is not based on the language, it is based on the fad.

So something like Mulle Objective-C fills a need. It is an important thing in the software ecosystem. In due course I do hope to use it, to write a parallel Python. Think Cooperating Sequential Processes, much like Erlang, but where the language is Python and not Erlang. With Mulle Objective-C a basic Python interpreter can be written in less than 5,000 lines of code. I just wish that I had the tme and money to do this right now.

[ghost]

Hook me up, I need to get back to coding in a sane language!

[mulle-nat]

You've come to the right place, probably 😃 ...

[hsnamr]

I never asked for Swift. All I ever wanted was Objective-C 3.0

MakeObjCGreatAgain

[jkoutavas]

Bring me to the next level, @mulle-nat :-)

[mulle-kybernetik-tv]

@jkoutavas thanks for becoming a public member, if you want a slack invite I need an email-address somehow.

[jkoutavas]

I sent you an email at the time I signed up. I’ll resend when I get back at my computer.

Sent from my iPhone

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@jkoutavas thanks for becoming a public member, if you want a slack invite I need an email-address somehow.

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[Belomi]

I quite like Objective-C and am interested in seeing where the language can go.

[bugravirgomercury]

I too want to be a part of it. I'll write a game with it even.

[mulle-nat]

A game written in mulle-objc would be very cool indeed.

[mulle-nat]

@bugravirgomercury if you want an invite for Slack send me an email to nat-github-slack@mulle-kybernetik.com

[alepi]

Hi, I am interested in porting mulle objc ecosystem to openbsd and I need some guidance for that. For example, openbsd makes its own patches to llvm and clang and I may need some help with how mulle-clang is changed compared to vanilla clang. Is the community the right place to ask this kind of questions? :-)