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Consider to delete iOS clients #96

Closed toby63 closed 4 years ago

toby63 commented 4 years ago

I have a friend who tried your app on iOS and his version was very outdated (1.2.4 according to the server).

So, while I can't check that myself:

  1. We can assume that App Store automatically installs the most recent version.
  2. I noticed that the versioning is very confusing, but the date is enough to see that its outdated:
App Version in App Store Date
Mumble 1.3.1 Sep 13, 2017
Mumblefy 1.3 27 Jun 2016

I suggest you to remove both apps from your website at least, and also consider removing your official app from the App Store (until an updated version is available).

I also don't see any call for help, maybe someone would take over the development of the app: https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble-iphoneos

davidebeatrici commented 4 years ago

The devil is keeping it hostage: 666 commits

Jokes aside, we definitely need an iOS developer if we want to keep the app alive.

@mkrautz is the original developer and, as you can see from the commits, the only one.

Unfortunately he's been very busy lately, basically since the last update for the app.

And yes, the version is very confusing: it refers to the application's version rather than the Mumble protocol's one.

In case it's not clear, Mumblefy is a third-party application. Replacing our official app with it would be totally fine... if it was open-source and didn't have a rating of 1.7 stars...

Kissaki commented 4 years ago

Age does not necessarily indicate obsoleteness or incompleteness. Our protocol did not change. The baseline is still the same.

Kissaki commented 4 years ago

a rating of 1.7 stars

Why do we recommend it when it has such a low rating? That can’t be good.

toby63 commented 4 years ago

Age does not necessarily indicate obsoleteness or incompleteness. Our protocol did not change. The baseline is still the same.

I will not discuss software security here once again, you should know better.

In case it's not clear, Mumblefy is a third-party application. Replacing our official app with it would be totally fine... if it was open-source and didn't have a rating of 1.7 stars...

It's clear and even if it would be open source, that wouldn't help as it's even older than your app.

we definitely need an iOS developer if we want to keep the app alive.

I opened an Issue (https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble-iphoneos/issues/129), maybe someone is interested.

Kissaki commented 4 years ago

a rating of 1.7 stars

Why do we recommend it when it has such a low rating? That can’t be good.

I think I misunderstood you? Because I don’t see 1.7 stars but 5 starts with 1 vote on Mumblefy. So what did you mean?

toby63 commented 4 years ago

I think I misunderstood you? Because I don’t see 1.7 stars but 5 starts with 1 vote on Mumblefy. So what did you mean?

I see 1.7 stars. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mumblefy/id858752232

Kissaki commented 4 years ago

When accessing it from our downloads page I get redirected from /us/ to /dk/…

Kissaki commented 4 years ago

Link fixed in fdff690c7482e3af9b6baa67061edd7a4078b20f

Link to Mumblefy removed in f7f7736216bd6f525c2e77464be0f2c7f3f78196

For now we will not remove our iOS client as long as we do not have anything better and no reports of blatant issues.

toby63 commented 4 years ago

For now we will not remove our iOS client as long as we do not have anything better and no reports of blatant issues.

I assume the ocb2 issue https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/4219 could be a problem there as well, to name just one example. And because of the "wrong" numbering of the iOS version, it can misslead users into believing it is recent and the date is just wrong.

toby63 commented 3 years ago

You should at least inform users that it is a really outdated version and that it does not even work correctly with newer servers, like my friend experienced.