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Trying and Unable to use Positional Audio in a Source game with Radmin #4905

Closed Biozeminade closed 3 years ago

Biozeminade commented 3 years ago

Self-explanatory. Am currently trying to host a Mumble server to try positional audio for L4D2 only for the positional audio to not work at all despite all of the settings checked to "on". Same goes for my friend on his end. I am hosting the murmur server by using a Radmin network for easier online connectivity on both of our ends.

In addition, some of the plugins for certain games that I have installed like CS:S and DOD:S aren't even appearing... qfOTLgpj86

Can somebody please help us out and tell us what we're doing wrong and how we can get this working (and also to get the other plugins to appear)?

Krzmbrzl commented 3 years ago

I assume you are on Windows?

Which version of Mumble are you using (on the client-side)? And where did you get that version from?

Note that the server is not really involved in positional audio. This is a client-side feature.

Biozeminade commented 3 years ago

I assume you are on Windows?

Which version of Mumble are you using (on the client-side)? And where did you get that version from?

Note that the server is not really involved in positional audio. This is a client-side feature.

I'm using 1.3.4 on Windows 10. I initially had 1.3.3 from here: https://www.mumble.com/mumble-download.php although upon installation, it prompted me saying an update was available which I ended up downloading.

davidebeatrici commented 3 years ago

Plugins for CS:S and DOD:S are not supposed to appear: they are deprecated in favor of the Link plugin, as Source Engine provides integration for it.

Unfortunately Left 4 Dead uses an older branch of the engine which doesn't provide said integration. Mumble 1.4.0 provides a completely new plugin which currently works with both L4D and L4D2.

Krzmbrzl commented 3 years ago

You can get a snapshot version of the upcoming 1.4.0 release from https://www.mumble.info/downloads/#development-snapshots

Kissaki commented 3 years ago

So to clarify: With it turned on, on your start and connect to a server Mumble should show that it linked with the Link plugin, and then it should work.

davidebeatrici commented 3 years ago

For games that have integration for the Link plugin, otherwise it should show that it's linked with the Source Engine one.

Biozeminade commented 3 years ago

Well right now I'm trying another game with a friend. Specifically Garry's Mod (retail) and it's still not working. Both me and my friend have the newest snapshot installed AND the checkbox for Positional Audio is set to 'on'. (also the mumble chat says "Source engine: garrysmod linked")

Krzmbrzl commented 3 years ago

What is the version of the server that you are using?

Biozeminade commented 3 years ago

What is the version of the server that you are using?

If you mean Murmur, it's the latest revision (based off of the latest Mumble 1.4 snapshot: [Murmur-1.4.0_2021-04-03_ge0d0056_snapshot.x64]).

But if you mean Garry's Mod, it's the latest revision on the (x86-64) branch: [2021-04-02].

Krzmbrzl commented 3 years ago

Just for fun, did you try out a different server yet? Just choose one from the public server list and connect to that to see if it is working.

@davidebeatrici could it be that the Source Engine plugin is currently broken (for these games)?

Sannz commented 3 years ago

I have tried it for the left 4 dead 2 game and on different servers (latest 1.4 snapsnot / current / online hosted) on the latest snapsnot of mumble (1.4.0 ~ 2021-04-03 ~ ge0d0056 ~ snapshot). The results appears to be the same. The message that mumble got linked never appears in this case, but looking how the size of ram usage and also that it completely freeze the game in that time frame makes it seems it is trying to get the data. (periodically after a certain amount of seconds)

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And to make sure the hitches were caused by mumble, after closing mumble the game runs normally without any freezes.

Krzmbrzl commented 3 years ago

Hm to me it appears as if the plugin is broken and simply fails to fetch the respective data.

@davidebeatrici

davidebeatrici commented 3 years ago

I'm unable to test Link with Garry's Mod because I don't own the game, but I confirm that the dedicated Left 4 Dead plugin works fine.

@Sannz Looks like a memory leak, however it cannot be caused by the plugin because it only reads the process' memory. If you have Mumble's overlay enabled I would try to disable it, there's a high chance it causes issues because it's injected into the process.

Sannz commented 3 years ago

@davidebeatrici You are correct, did another run without the overlay and the freezes are gone. Looking at the task manager however still showed the RAM usage is periodically increasing and then decreasing. Disabling the Source Engine plugin ceases this behavior.

Kissaki commented 3 years ago

If Mumble says it linked that’s what you want. Note that the server context may be different depending on the game and how you connect to it. E.g. if you self-host locally and connect to 127.0.0.1 then that is a different server address than your friend using a remote local address a.b.c.d. If the game uses that as the context then you will not be in the same context.

I own garry's mod and could test.

I didn't quite get what you changed that it did not link anymore? Anyway, that's not what you want. So if you can go back to where it linked.

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