search

mungewell / zoom-zt2

Python script to install/remove effects from the Zoom G1Four pedal
MIT License
62 stars 11 forks source link

Patch FX-chain view by category #55

Open nomadbyte opened 1 year ago

nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

Not an issue, just sharing some findings.

Out of curiosity, I listed the G1 FOUR standard patches to show which types/categories of effects are being chained in a patch.

Interestingly, 35.PadGuitar stands out with its DYN:DYN:MOD:DLY:DLY double-delay chain. Also, a few patches insert some effects between AMP and CAB (e.g. 11.ZEP 1959, 40.Lead BGN and 49.Rhapsody, which otherwise chained together.

For the most part DRV or DYN are first modules in chain, then feeding into AMP:CAB but there is some variety with that.

I guess, G5n patches show even more variety in chaining (could it insert even looper modules?).

G1 FOUR
-------
 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:REV "10.MS HiGain"
 DRV:AMP:DYN:CAB:DLY "11.ZEP 1959"
 DYN:MOD:DRV:DLY:REV "12.DreamBox"
 MOD:AMP:CAB:DYN:REV "13.DZ DRIVE"
 DYN:DRV:MOD:DLY:REV "14.Skater DRV"
 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT "15.BGN Djent"
 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY "16.GrungeMuff"
 DYN:FLT:DRV:FLT:REV "17.RandyTrain"
 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY "18.Hot Tweed"
 MOD:DRV:DYN:DLY:REV "19.JS Boogie"
 DRV:DYN:DLY:REV:REV "20.JB Block"
 DYN:DRV:MOD:DYN:DLY "21.Corona Eye"
 MOD:DRV:DRV:DLY:REV "22.Gold Drv"
 DYN:DRV:MOD:DLY:REV "23.PantherWLK"
 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV "24.DeluxeTrem"
 DYN:DRV:MOD:DLY:REV "25.NV Clone"
 DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:REV "26.OctaveSolo"
 DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY "27.Barra"
 FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:REV "28.A Wah"
 DYN:DRV:MOD:MOD:DLY "29.C Harmony"
 DYN:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV "30.GlitterCln"
 DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:REV "31.Comp Phase"
 DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV "32.POP Chorus"
 DRV:MOD:DYN:DYN:REV "33.LushAcoust"
 DLY:DLY:REV:AMP:CAB "34.HeavenSent"
 DYN:DYN:MOD:DLY:DLY "35.PadGuitar"
 FLT:REV:AMP:CAB:DLY "36.Live Again"
 SFX:DYN:FLT:REV:REV "37.HotSpice"
 DYN:FLT:DRV:DLY:REV "38.RandomFLTR"
 DLY:SFX:DRV:REV:AMP "39.Bomb Basic"
 DRV:AMP:DYN:CAB:DLY "40.Lead BGN"
 DYN:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV "41.MatchClean"
 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV "42.ORG Glory"
 DRV:DLY:AMP:CAB:REV "43.Surf"
 DRV:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV "44.SummerHW"
 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY "45.MonkeyRCT"
 MOD:AMP:CAB:DYN:REV "46.Vibe Jimi"
 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:REV "47.MK1 LEAD"
 DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:REV "48.Eruption"
 DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:REV "49.Rhapsody"
nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

Here's the cat-view for G5n standard patches (added the column with a defined chain-length)

G5n allows up to 9 effects in the chain and supports expression pedal PDL and looper LP. Apparently, there are a few patches that make use of the looper module (e.g. 051.Loopertron, 119.MK1 LEAD).

Curiously, there are quite a few compact patches -- those that use no more than 5 effects in the chain; well, there are even 4-chains (with pedal).

G5n
---
 7 PDL:DRV:AMP:DYN:CAB:FLT:DLY:---:--- "001.Lead BGN"
 7 MOD:DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:PDL:---:--- "002.Phazed"
 7 FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:PDL:---:--- "003.UFO"
 7 DYN:DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "004.DreamWorld"
 7 DYN:MOD:DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:PDL:---:--- "005.The Brown"
 5 FLT:DRV:MOD:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "006.Funk Sauce"
 6 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "007.Hard Rock"
 6 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT:PDL:---:---:--- "008.GrungeFuzz"
 5 AMP:CAB:DYN:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "009.MS.Mudd"
 6 DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "010.OctaveSolo"
 6 DYN:PDL:DLY:REV:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "011.HeavenSent"
 8 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:DLY:DLY:--- "012.SL-Drive"
 6 DRV:DRV:PDL:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "013.TexasToasT"
 6 DYN:AMP:CAB:FLT:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "014.DjentDrive"
 6 DYN:PDL:AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:---:---:--- "015.FacialCln"
 5 AMP:FLT:DYN:CAB:PDL:---:---:---:--- "016.AxeAttack"
 6 DYN:FLT:REV:AMP:CAB:PDL:---:---:--- "017.Live Again"
 5 DRV:MOD:DYN:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "018.LushAcoust"
 6 DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:PDL:REV:---:---:--- "019.MuteBackin"
 6 MOD:FLT:DRV:DLY:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "020.MtlMonster"
 5 DRV:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "021.TS"
 7 DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "022.Barra"
 5 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:PDL:---:---:---:--- "023.BGN Djent"
 6 DYN:DRV:PDL:AMP:REV:CAB:---:---:--- "024.OrganBlues"
 6 DRV:DLY:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "025.Jimmy"
 5 DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "026.Carlos"
 6 DRV:DLY:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "027.Edgy"
 7 DYN:DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:REV:REV:---:--- "028.Rhapsody"
 7 DYN:DYN:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "029.LatinSolo"
 6 DYN:AMP:CAB:FLT:PDL:REV:---:---:--- "030.ZepDrive"
 8 DYN:MOD:DRV:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:PDL:--- "031.Eruption"
 6 DYN:AMP:CAB:PDL:REV:DLY:---:---:--- "032.Sweet Lead"
 5 DRV:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "033.RC Clean"
 4 DRV:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "034.Blues"
 4 AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "035.EarlyBrits"
 4 AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "036.Surf"
 4 DRV:DYN:FLT:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "037.TAcoustic"
 4 AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "038.UKxUS"
 4 AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "039.Brit Grit"
 4 AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "040.Hot Twin"
 5 DYN:PDL:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "041.Fuunnkk"
 4 PDL:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "042.Vibra Wah"
 6 DRV:DYN:AMP:CAB:PDL:REV:---:---:--- "043.EchoContrl"
 4 DRV:PDL:REV:---:---:---:---:---:--- "044.Rock Organ"
 8 DRV:CAB:PDL:MOD:DLY:DLY:REV:DYN:--- "045.ChuckWah"
 6 DYN:PDL:DLY:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "046.FD Wah"
 6 DYN:DYN:AMP:CAB:PDL:DLY:---:---:--- "047.Pedal Mod"
 5 DYN:MOD:PDL:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:--- "048.Crush PDL"
 6 MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "049.Johnny"
 5 DRV:DRV:MOD:DLY:PDL:---:---:---:--- "050.SuperSonic"
 7 DRV:DLY:MOD:DLY:LP :REV:PDL:---:--- "051.Loopertron"
 5 DRV:MOD:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "052.Gayageum"
 6 MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "053.Sighs"
 5 PDL:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "054.Jimi"
 5 DRV:DYN:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "055.CleanSlide"
 4 DRV:DYN:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "056.DirtySlide"
 5 AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "057.Confusion"
 6 MOD:DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "058.Smooth"
 6 DRV:AMP:DYN:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "059.Metal"
 4 DRV:FLT:FLT:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "060.Dobro"
 6 FLT:DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "061.AutoFunk"
 5 DRV:DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "062.ClnSlide2"
 4 AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "063.Talker"
 5 AMP:CAB:DRV:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "064.Sing"
 5 DRV:DRV:AMP:CAB:PDL:---:---:---:--- "065.Low Blow"
 5 AMP:CAB:REV:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "066.Elise"
 5 DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "067.Don"
 6 AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:DLY:PDL:---:---:--- "068.Birds"
 7 DRV:DYN:PDL:MOD:DLY:DLY:REV:---:--- "069.Chuck1"
 4 PDL:DRV:DRV:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "070.DirtyHairy"
 6 DYN:FLT:MOD:DLY:MOD:PDL:---:---:--- "071.Duck Tales"
 5 AMP:CAB:PDL:MOD:REV:---:---:---:--- "072.SpacFlange"
 5 PDL:FLT:DRV:MOD:REV:---:---:---:--- "073.Robot Talk"
 6 AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "074.Mr,Mud"
 8 DYN:DRV:DRV:DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY:PDL:--- "075.UltraDrive"
 5 DYN:DRV:PDL:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "076.MoonBeams"
 5 DRV:DRV:PDL:MOD:REV:---:---:---:--- "077.Schizo"
 6 DYN:DRV:MOD:MOD:DLY:PDL:---:---:--- "078.C Harmony"
 6 PDL:DRV:DYN:FLT:MOD:REV:---:---:--- "079.The Pulse"
 6 DYN:DRV:DRV:PDL:MOD:DLY:---:---:--- "080.ThePitcher"
 6 PDL:DRV:MOD:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "081.Euphoria"
 6 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "082.The Force"
 4 AMP:REV:CAB:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "083.TheVintage"
 5 FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:PDL:---:---:---:--- "084.A Wah"
 7 FLT:MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "085.Wactave"
 5 FLT:AMP:CAB:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "086.Steppin'"
 7 DYN:DRV:PDL:AMP:DYN:CAB:DLY:---:--- "087.BallzNFace"
 5 MOD:AMP:CAB:DYN:PDL:---:---:---:--- "088.OffThChain"
 6 AMP:PDL:FLT:CAB:REV:DLY:---:---:--- "089.GhostWaltz"
 5 PDL:AMP:MOD:DLY:CAB:---:---:---:--- "090.Sideways"
 5 DYN:REV:AMP:CAB:PDL:---:---:---:--- "091.Twin Basic"
 5 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:PDL:---:---:---:--- "092.S2T Basic"
 7 DYN:DLY:SFX:FLT:PDL:REV:AMP:---:--- "093.Bomb Basic"
 7 DYN:MOD:DRV:LP :AMP:DYN:PDL:---:--- "094.GlassLoops"
 7 AMP:FLT:DYN:CAB:MOD:DLY:PDL:---:--- "095.ShredFest"
 7 DYN:DYN:AMP:MOD:MOD:PDL:REV:---:--- "096.StringGt"
 7 DYN:FLT:AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:PDL:---:--- "097.Rezo Cln"
 6 DYN:MOD:DRV:SFX:DLY:PDL:---:---:--- "098.PsY;BoM;"
 7 DYN:DYN:FLT:DYN:MOD:REV:PDL:---:--- "099.NicoVoice"
 5 DYN:DRV:PDL:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "100.TripEcho"
 7 DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT:DYN:DLY:REV:---:--- "101.MuddyRock"
 6 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "102.GrungeMuff"
 6 DYN:DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "103.Comp Phase"
 5 PDL:AMP:CAB:DYN:REV:---:---:---:--- "104.SummerHW"
 5 PDL:DYN:DRV:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "105.DreamBox"
 6 PDL:DYN:DRV:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "106.NV Clone"
 7 DYN:FLT:DRV:REV:LP :REV:PDL:---:--- "107.Random LP"
 5 AMP:CAB:DYN:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:--- "108.MonkeyRCT"
 4 DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "109.POP CHORUS"
 5 AMP:CAB:MOD:DYN:SFX:---:---:---:--- "110.Industrial"
 8 ---:MOD:DRV:FLT:DYN:DLY:REV:---:--- "111.P-FunkLead"
 5 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "112.DeluxeGang"
 5 PDL:DRV:DRV:DYN:REV:---:---:---:--- "113.GRID SRV"
 4 MOD:DRV:DLY:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "114.BonyStone"
 4 FLT:AMP:CAB:DYN:---:---:---:---:--- "115.CornFLT"
 5 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "116.ORG Glory"
 6 ---:DRV:MOD:DYN:DLY:---:---:---:--- "117.Corona Eye"
 5 FLT:AMP:CAB:MOD:REV:---:---:---:--- "118.ExciteShop"
 7 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:REV:LP :PDL:---:--- "119.MK1 LEAD"
 7 ---:AMP:CAB:DYN:PDL:---:---:---:--- "120.BitCrusher"
 7 ---:AMP:DYN:CAB:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "121.ZEP 1959"
 5 DRV:LP :DLY:PDL:REV:---:---:---:--- "122.TS+BOOST"
 6 AMP:CAB:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "123.DZ DRIVE"
 5 AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:REV:---:---:---:--- "124.ParticleR"
nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

Cat-view chain for B3n patches (supports up to 7 effects in a chain).

Most of these patches begin with DYN module. (also many begin with FLT or MOD), then feeding into FLT or DRV. 12.RockDrive begins with double-DYN.

One patch 66.WarmUp uses rhythm effect module RHY. Most of the Bass patches are fairly compact -- 2-5 chains, a handful of 6-chains.

The longest is the 65.Trad Set with its 7-chain: DRV:DRV:FLT:MOD:MOD:MOD:DLY, double-drive and triple-modulation!!

B3n
---
 3 DYN:FLT:DRV:---:---:---:--- "01.Sans Clean"
 4 DYN:DRV:FLT:DYN:---:---:--- "02.Comp&Drv"
 3 DRV:DYN:FLT:---:---:---:--- "03.Slap Back"
 3 FLT:DYN:---:---:---:---:--- "04.A-Wah"
 3 DYN:FLT:DRV:---:---:---:--- "05.MX Clean"
 3 MOD:AMP:AMP:---:---:---:--- "06.+LoOctave"
 4 FLT:MOD:REV:DYN:---:---:--- "07.Harmonics"
 5 DYN:SFX:MOD:FLT:MOD:---:--- "08.MJ Synth"
 3 SFX:MOD:FLT:---:---:---:--- "09.JacoBass"
 6 MOD:MOD:DLY:AMP:CAB:DYN:--- "10.SUB BOOGIE"
 4 DYN:FLT:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "11.Wah+AG"
 5 DYN:DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:--- "12.RockDrive"
 4 FLT:DYN:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "13.Rock Slap"
 5 MOD:DRV:FLT:AMP:CAB:---:--- "14.+RthmGtr"
 5 DYN:FLT:DRV:DYN:AMP:---:--- "15.WahDist"
 5 DRV:REV:AMP:CAB:DYN:---:--- "16.PEACHY"
 3 AMP:CAB:SFX:---:---:---:--- "17.GREMLIN"
 5 SFX:MOD:REV:AMP:CAB:---:--- "18.TalkToMe"
 4 DYN:FLT:DYN:DYN:---:---:--- "19.Hard Comp"
 2 DRV:AMP:---:---:---:---:--- "20.ODB-Drive"
 4 DYN:FLT:MOD:FLT:---:---:--- "21.MM Clean"
 5 DYN:MOD:FLT:REV:SFX:---:--- "22.FunkySolo"
 4 DYN:MOD:FLT:DRV:---:---:--- "23.AVA Clean"
 3 FLT:SFX:DRV:---:---:---:--- "24.Larry Jet"
 4 DYN:DRV:FLT:DYN:---:---:--- "25.RockDist"
 5 DYN:DYN:DRV:SFX:MOD:---:--- "26.HysterSyn"
 5 DYN:FLT:FLT:MOD:REV:---:--- "27.Flamenco"
 4 FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "28.AMPG Set"
 4 DYN:SFX:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "29.BMAN Set"
 5 DYN:DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:---:--- "30.SMR400 Set"
 5 DYN:FLT:DLY:AMP:CAB:---:--- "31.AG750 Set"
 6 DYN:FLT:MOD:MOD:AMP:CAB:--- "32.TE400 Set"
 5 DRV:DYN:AMP:CAB:DYN:---:--- "33.DRIVNCLEAN"
 3 DYN:DRV:AMP:---:---:---:--- "34.RockBD"
 5 DYN:MOD:MOD:AMP:CAB:---:--- "35.HiFi Slap"
 4 FLT:AMP:CAB:DYN:---:---:--- "36.Funk Wah"
 3 DYN:FLT:DRV:---:---:---:--- "37.80s Live"
 3 DYN:FLT:---:---:---:---:--- "38.SlapBasic"
 3 AMP:DYN:CAB:---:---:---:--- "39.BOOM"
 3 REV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:--- "40.TubeAttack"
 2 DRV:AMP:---:---:---:---:--- "41.SA-Drive"
 3 FLT:DRV:DRV:---:---:---:--- "42.DarkCrunch"
 3 DRV:MOD:---:---:---:---:--- "43.Oct-Fuzz"
 3 DYN:DRV:AMP:---:---:---:--- "44.FatTube"
 3 DYN:MOD:FLT:---:---:---:--- "45.Octaver"
 6 DYN:FLT:FLT:MOD:DLY:REV:--- "46.Tapping"
 3 DYN:DRV:FLT:---:---:---:--- "47.Choppers"
 3 DYN:MOD:AMP:---:---:---:--- "48.Cho-Slap"
 5 DYN:DRV:FLT:DYN:MOD:---:--- "49.RockPhasar"
 5 DYN:SFX:MOD:MOD:FLT:---:--- "50.SynBass"
 3 SFX:MOD:AMP:---:---:---:--- "51.Funky SynB"
 3 FLT:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:--- "52.CryBaby"
 2 MOD:AMP:---:---:---:---:--- "53.CUREY"
 4 DYN:DRV:FLT:DLY:---:---:--- "54.CLmelody"
 3 MOD:MOD:FLT:---:---:---:--- "55.Flange Cho"
 3 MOD:REV:DLY:---:---:---:--- "56.ChoRevDly1"
 3 MOD:REV:DLY:---:---:---:--- "57.ChoRevDly2"
 5 DYN:MOD:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "58.Dream Pad"
 3 SFX:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:--- "59.Fretless"
 6 FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DYN:--- "60.STONY WAH"
 5 DYN:DRV:MOD:FLT:MOD:---:--- "61.LiveSet"
 6 DYN:FLT:FLT:MOD:MOD:DLY:--- "62.Slap Wah"
 6 DRV:AMP:DRV:MOD:MOD:DYN:--- "63.BlueB BOD"
 5 DRV:AMP:MOD:FLT:SFX:---:--- "64.NYC Muff"
 7 DRV:DRV:FLT:MOD:MOD:MOD:DLY "65.Trad Set"
 5 AMP:CAB:REV:LP :RHY:---:--- "66.WarmUp"
 5 MOD:FLT:DRV:DYN:REV:---:--- "67.SeqF Pad"
 4 DRV:DLY:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "68.Skyhaus"
 3 MOD:DYN:AMP:---:---:---:--- "69.DAZE"
 3 FLT:DRV:---:---:---:---:--- "70.FEAR"
 5 DLY:REV:DLY:FLT:DLY:---:--- "71.Gazr"
 3 SFX:FLT:DRV:---:---:---:--- "72.Arp"
 3 FLT:MOD:REV:---:---:---:--- "73.TxTremolo"
 4 DYN:SFX:DRV:REV:---:---:--- "74.TaurusBass"
 4 DYN:SFX:DLY:DRV:---:---:--- "75.Explosion"
nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

For comparison, the cat-chains for B1 FOUR (up to 5 effects).

Curiously, all the patches show the defined chain-length 5, even though some of the actual chains are shorter.

Some patches eponymous with B3n differ just in the absent trailing REV module (e.g. 15.Tapping vs. B3n 46.Tapping).

B1 FOUR
-------
 5 DYN:FLT:DRV:---:--- "10.Sans Clean"
 5 DYN:FLT:DRV:---:--- "11.MX Clean"
 5 DRV:DYN:FLT:---:--- "12.Slap Back"
 5 DYN:MOD:DLY:---:--- "13.GlamComp"
 5 DYN:FLT:DYN:DYN:--- "14.Hard Comp"
 5 DYN:FLT:FLT:MOD:DLY "15.Tapping"
 5 DYN:FLT:MOD:FLT:--- "16.MM Clean"
 5 SFX:MOD:FLT:---:--- "17.JacoBass"
 5 DYN:DRV:FLT:DLY:--- "18.CLmelody"
 5 DYN:MOD:FLT:AMP:--- "19.AnalogCho"
 5 DRV:AMP:---:---:--- "20.SA-Drive"
 5 FLT:DYN:AMP:CAB:--- "21.Rock Slap"
 5 DRV:AMP:DYN:---:--- "22.SqueakDRV"
 5 DRV:DYN:AMP:CAB:DYN "23.DRIVNCLEAN"
 5 DYN:DRV:AMP:DYN:--- "24.FatTube"
 5 FLT:DRV:DRV:---:--- "25.DarkCrunch"
 5 DYN:DRV:FLT:DYN:--- "26.Comp&Drv"
 5 DYN:FLT:DRV:DYN:AMP "27.WahDist"
 5 DRV:REV:AMP:CAB:DYN "28.PEACHY"
 5 FLT:DYN:DRV:---:--- "29.CrazyFuzz"
 5 FLT:DYN:---:---:--- "30.A-Wah"
 5 DYN:MOD:FLT:---:--- "31.Octaver"
 5 DYN:SFX:MOD:FLT:MOD "32.MJ Synth"
 5 SFX:MOD:REV:AMP:CAB "33.TalkToMe"
 5 MOD:MOD:DLY:AMP:CAB "34.SUB BOOGIE"
 5 DYN:SFX:AMP:CAB:DYN "35.Larry Jet"
 5 MOD:FLT:DRV:DYN:REV "36.SeqF Pad"
 5 DYN:MOD:FLT:REV:SFX "37.FunkySolo"
 5 DYN:SFX:MOD:MOD:FLT "38.SynBass"
 5 DYN:SFX:DLY:DRV:--- "39.Explosion"
 5 FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:--- "40.AMPG Set"
 5 DYN:SFX:AMP:CAB:--- "41.BMAN Set"
 5 FLT:AMP:CAB:---:--- "42.Motown"
 5 MOD:DLY:AMP:CAB:FLT "43.AC 370"
 5 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:--- "44.SMR400 Set"
 5 DYN:FLT:MOD:AMP:CAB "45.TE400 Set"
 5 DYN:FLT:DLY:AMP:CAB "46.AG750 Set"
 5 AMP:CAB:CAB:---:--- "47.SVT HalfST"
 5 DYN:DYN:AMP:CAB:--- "48.Mark802"
 5 DYN:AMP:DYN:CAB:FLT "49.EBSlap"
nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

I wonder if anyone has the A1/A1X FOUR standard patches? I'd be curious to classify those too.

mungewell commented 1 year ago

I have a GCE-3 and in theory could emulate the A1Four to save them off... however I am travelling for the next week. A simple script could grab the patches.

You could try asking @shooking

nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

... I have a GCE-3 and in theory could emulate the A1Four to save them off

Save them off where? Firmware or the Guitar Lab?

The GCE-3 fw contains only some Guitar patches (see below), apparently some rehash of G5n/G3n patches.

GCE-3
-----
 5 DRV:AMP:DYN:CAB:DLY:---:--- "001.Lead BGN"
 6 MOD:DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:--- "002.Phazed"
 6 FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:--- "003.UFO"
 6 DYN:DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:--- "004.DreamWorld"
 6 DYN:DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:REV:--- "005.The Brown"
 4 FLT:DRV:MOD:REV:---:---:--- "006.Funk Sauce"
 5 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:---:--- "007.Hard Rock"
 5 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT:---:--- "008.GrungeFuzz"
 4 AMP:CAB:DYN:REV:---:---:--- "009.MS.Mudd"
 5 DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "010.OctaveSolo"
 6 DYN:DLY:DLY:REV:AMP:CAB:--- "011.HeavenSent"
 6 DYN:DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:DLY:--- "012.SL-Drive"
 5 DRV:DRV:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "013.TexasToasT"
 5 DYN:AMP:CAB:FLT:REV:---:--- "014.DjentDrive"
 5 DYN:AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:---:--- "015.FacialCln"
 4 AMP:FLT:DYN:CAB:---:---:--- "016.AxeAttack"
 5 DYN:FLT:REV:AMP:CAB:---:--- "017.Live Again"
 4 DRV:MOD:DYN:REV:---:---:--- "018.LushAcoust"
 5 DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "019.MuteBackin"
 6 MOD:FLT:DRV:DLY:AMP:CAB:--- "020.MtlMonster"
 4 DRV:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "021.TS"
 6 DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:--- "022.Barra"
 4 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "023.BGN Djent"
 5 DRV:DLY:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "024.Jimmy"
 4 DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "025.Carlos"
 5 DRV:DLY:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "026.Edgy"
 5 DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:REV:---:--- "027.Rhapsody"
 6 DYN:DYN:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:--- "028.LatinSolo"
 5 DYN:AMP:CAB:FLT:REV:---:--- "029.ZepDrive"
 6 DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:--- "030.Eruption"
 5 DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:DLY:---:--- "031.Sweet Lead"
 4 DRV:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "032.RC Clean"
 4 DRV:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "033.Blues"
 3 AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "034.EarlyBrits"
 3 AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "035.Surf"
 3 DRV:DYN:FLT:---:---:---:--- "036.TAcoustic"
 3 AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "037.UKxUS"
 3 AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "038.Brit Grit"
 3 AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "039.Hot Twin"
 5 MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:---:--- "040.Johnny"
 4 DRV:DRV:MOD:DLY:---:---:--- "041.SuperSonic"
 6 DRV:DLY:MOD:DLY:LP :REV:--- "042.Loopertron"
 4 DRV:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "043.Gayageum"
 5 MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:---:--- "044.Sighs"
 4 AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "045.Jimi"
 3 DRV:DYN:REV:---:---:---:--- "046.CleanSlide"
 3 DRV:DYN:REV:---:---:---:--- "047.DirtySlide"
 4 AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "048.Confusion"
 5 MOD:DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "049.Smooth"
 5 DRV:AMP:DYN:CAB:REV:---:--- "050.Metal"
 3 DRV:FLT:FLT:---:---:---:--- "051.Dobro"
 5 FLT:DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "052.AutoFunk"
 5 DRV:DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:---:--- "053.ClnSlide2"
 4 AMP:CAB:DRV:REV:---:---:--- "054.Sing"
 4 DRV:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "055.Low Blow"
 4 AMP:CAB:REV:REV:---:---:--- "056.Elise"
 4 DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:--- "057.Don"
 5 AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:DLY:---:--- "058.Birds"
 5 DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "059.Chuck1"
 3 DRV:DRV:REV:---:---:---:--- "060.DirtyHairy"
 4 AMP:CAB:MOD:REV:---:---:--- "061.SpacFlange"
 4 FLT:DRV:MOD:REV:---:---:--- "062.Robot Talk"
 5 AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "063.Mr,Mud"
 7 DYN:DRV:DRV:DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY "064.UltraDrive"
 5 DYN:DRV:MOD:MOD:DLY:---:--- "065.C Harmony"
 5 DRV:DYN:FLT:MOD:REV:---:--- "066.The Pulse"
 5 DRV:MOD:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "067.Euphoria"
 5 AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:---:--- "068.The Force"
 6 FLT:MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:--- "069.Wactave"
 6 DYN:DRV:AMP:DYN:CAB:DLY:--- "070.BallzNFace"
 5 AMP:FLT:CAB:REV:DLY:---:--- "071.GhostWaltz"
 4 DYN:REV:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "072.Twin Basic"
 6 DYN:DYN:AMP:MOD:MOD:REV:--- "073.StringGt"
 6 DYN:FLT:AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:--- "074.Rezo Cln"
 5 DYN:MOD:DRV:SFX:DLY:---:--- "075.PsY;BoM;"
nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

Ok, figured it out. Below is the cat-view for A1 FOUR (supports up to 5 chained effects).

Here too, all patches explicitly set to 5-chain length, even though some chains are shorter.

Most of the patches begin with AGM (modeling effect) module or a filter FLT module. Last in chain is mostly reverb REV.

There's a triple-filtered 37.Vn N'sWah and triple-dyn-enveloped 24.AG HardCMP, a couple of double-modulated patches (e.g. 44.Tp Cosmic and 43.Tp Gagaku).

A1 FOUR
-------
 5 AGM:DYN:FLT:REV:--- "10.AG D-28"
 5 AGM:DYN:FLT:REV:--- "11.AG J-45"
 5 AGM:DYN:FLT:REV:--- "12.AG ECunplg"
 5 AGM:FLT:DLY:REV:--- "13.AG Blues"
 5 AGM:FLT:DLY:REV:--- "14.AG Country"
 5 AGM:DYN:FLT:REV:--- "15.AG S-Jumbo"
 5 AGM:DYN:DLY:REV:--- "16.AG Vintage"
 5 AGM:DYN:FLT:REV:--- "17.AG Singer"
 5 AGM:DYN:FLT:REV:--- "18.AG NYLON"
 5 AGM:FLT:DYN:REV:--- "19.AG Reso"
 5 AGM:DYN:MOD:REV:--- "20.AG Aerial"
 5 AGM:DYN:MOD:DLY:--- "21.AG SlowTR"
 5 AGM:MOD:MOD:DYN:REV "22.AG 12 Str"
 5 AGM:DYN:DLY:REV:--- "23.AG Delay"
 5 AGM:DYN:DYN:DYN:REV "24.AG HardCMP"
 5 DYN:AGM:MOD:REV:--- "25.AG 80s Cho"
 5 AGM:FLT:DRV:DLY:REV "26.AG Radio"
 5 AGM:DYN:MOD:REV:--- "27.AG Phase"
 5 AGM:MOD:DLY:DLY:REV "28.AG DlyVerb"
 5 AGM:DRV:MOD:MOD:REV "29.AG Looper"
 5 FLT:AMP:CAB:DLY:--- "30.Hm Juke"
 5 FLT:DYN:FLT:DLY:REV "31.Hm FuncHrp"
 5 FLT:FLT:MOD:DLY:DLY "32.Hm StevieW"
 5 FLT:DRV:MOD:DLY:--- "33.Hm Vintage"
 5 FLT:DYN:AMP:CAB:REV "34.Hm Modern"
 5 FLT:FLT:DLY:REV:--- "35.Vn LiveJam"
 5 FLT:MOD:MOD:DLY:REV "36.Vn Orchest"
 5 FLT:FLT:FLT:REV:--- "37.Vn N'sWah"
 5 FLT:DRV:DLY:REV:--- "38.EVn Acoust"
 5 DRV:MOD:DLY:REV:--- "39.EVn Dist"
 5 FLT:DYN:MOD:FLT:--- "40.Tp B.Bros"
 5 FLT:MOD:REV:---:--- "41.Tp T.Brass"
 5 FLT:FLT:DYN:REV:--- "42.Tp Breath"
 5 FLT:MOD:MOD:REV:--- "43.Tp Gagaku"
 5 FLT:DYN:MOD:MOD:DLY "44.Tp Cosmic"
 5 MOD:REV:FLT:---:--- "45.Sax San-B"
 5 FLT:DLY:REV:---:--- "46.Sax forAll"
 5 MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "47.Sax Glowl"
 5 MOD:DLY:FLT:---:--- "48.Sax MyLady"
 5 FLT:FLT:DLY:---:--- "49.Sax WF Wah"
shooking commented 1 year ago

I generate the JSON for Fx and patch via this program. https://github.com/shooking/ZoomPedalFun/blob/main/python/b1xfour001.py

As u said, the G5n can add a looper or rhythm- so far I model this as a skeleton zd2 - which seems to be how Zoom do it.

I seem to recall it is possible to get 7 fx in a g1xfour. I think sysex 44 gives max fx and patch bank layout. Recall fx have a slot width. Looks like 5 but is 7 wide.

nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

Here's the cat-view for G11 standard patches (can chain up to 10 effects, also supports IR), it's v2.00, (001-240 is v1.00):

What's peculiar is that the patches reference IR modules (category:0x1b=27). I could not locate any .ZD2 files with such category id, yet that's how it's being referenced; perhaps it's a surrogate id, while the actual fx module is generated and inserted in real-time. Some example IR effect ids: 0x1b000055, 0x1b000021, 0x1b000011, 43 in total.

For G11 in particular, there's an official doc which lists all modules used per patch E_G11v2_PatchMemoryList.pdf, it also shows the IR modules and settings but does not reference these to files.

Apparently, one could even chain multiple IR modules, e.g. 249.MS RoomMic. Usually, the IR module follows an AMP but could follow DLY and other modules.

G11 v2.00
---------
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :FLT:REV:---:---:--- "241.KRAMPUS"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :REV:MOD:PDL:---:---:--- "242.POLLEX"
  6 AMP:IR :MOD:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "243.REDLOOM"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "244.VELVET"
  7 DRV:PDL:MOD:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "245.DLXTremolo"
  7 DRV:PDL:AMP:CAB:DYN:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "246.OctFuzz"
  6 PDL:DRV:MOD:AMP:IR :REV:---:---:---:--- "247.ORG Crunch"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :MOD:DLY:PDL:---:---:--- "248.Unchain"
  7 DYN:AMP:IR :IR :DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "249.MS RoomMic"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "250.MudBlues"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:DLY:IR :FLT:---:---:--- "251.PugetPsy"
  7 PDL:DRV:FLT:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "252.MasterDRV"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "253.MassiveDZ"
  8 PDL:DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "254.XtasyDRV"
  8 DYN:DRV:FLT:AMP:IR :FLT:MOD:PDL:---:--- "255.Djent7"
  8 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :FLT:MOD:REV:PDL:---:--- "256.RectoPan"
  9 DYN:FLT:DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "257.TransAC"
  7 PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:REV:---:---:--- "258.MATCH Cln"
  8 DYN:DYN:AMP:IR :DYN:DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "259.CntryCLN"
  8 DYN:MOD:MOD:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:REV:---:--- "260.WorshipAMB"
  7 DYN:AMP:CAB:FLT:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "261.PanOHalen"
  6 MOD:AMP:CAB:DYN:PDL:DLY:---:---:---:--- "262.The 'Cuda"
  6 DYN:DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT:---:---:---:--- "263.Exit Light"
  7 DYN:DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:PDL:REV:---:---:--- "264.FlyHigh"
  6 DYN:DYN:DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:--- "265.SOS Bottle"
  8 DYN:DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:DLY:DLY:REV:---:--- "266.RunRunRun"
  7 DYN:AMP:CAB:FLT:PDL:REV:REV:---:---:--- "267.SultanOJaz"
  8 DYN:DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:PDL:DLY:REV:---:--- "268.RedFrames"
  6 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:IR :MOD:---:---:---:--- "269.PlainCrazy"
  6 PDL:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "270.TheTower"
  5 DRV:AMP:FLT:FLT:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "271.Blisters"
  7 DRV:AMP:CAB:MOD:MOD:PDL:REV:---:---:--- "272.IfYouWanna"
  5 DRV:AMP:FLT:PDL:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "273.YouSoGotIt"
  6 DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "274.TheOne"
  5 DRV:AMP:FLT:REV:PDL:---:---:---:---:--- "275.Odd Brew"
  6 DRV:DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:REV:---:---:---:--- "276.SonicRokit"
  7 DYN:DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:---:---:--- "277.WildTrain"
  7 PDL:DRV:DYN:AMP:CAB:DYN:FLT:---:---:--- "278.StukByJira"
  6 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT:PDL:---:---:---:--- "279.StukMoshin"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:FLT:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "280.Scopicane"
  8 DYN:DRV:MOD:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:REV:---:--- "281.Pops CLN"
  8 DYN:DRV:MOD:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:REV:---:--- "282.Pops DRV"
  6 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "283.Pops LEAD"
  8 DYN:DYN:AMP:IR :MOD:PDL:DLY:REV:---:--- "284.Pops PAD"
  8 DYN:AMP:IR :DYN:PDL:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "285.Fusion CLN"
  8 DYN:DYN:AMP:IR :PDL:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "286.Fusion DRV"
  6 DYN:AMP:IR :MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "287.FusionLEAD"
  7 AMP:CAB:PDL:DLY:DLY:REV:REV:---:---:--- "288.Fusion AMB"
  8 DYN:AMP:IR :PDL:REV:DLY:DLY:REV:---:--- "289.Blues CLN"
  8 DYN:PDL:DRV:REV:AMP:IR :REV:REV:---:--- "290.Blues DRV"
  8 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:REV:---:--- "291.Blues LEAD"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "292.Blues FUZZ"
  8 DYN:MOD:MOD:AMP:IR :MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "293.Prog.M CLN"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :PDL:FLT:DLY:---:---:--- "294.Prog.M DRV"
  8 DYN:DRV:FLT:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:MOD:---:--- "295.Prog.M DBL"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "296.Prog.M LD"
  7 PDL:DYN:DRV:DLY:AMP:IR :REV:---:---:--- "297.Rockabilly"
  6 PDL:DRV:AMP:DLY:IR :REV:---:---:---:--- "298.EU Boogie"
  6 DYN:REV:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:---:---:---:--- "299.60's"
  7 DYN:DRV:PDL:MOD:AMP:IR :REV:---:---:--- "300.HazyFuzz"
  7 DYN:AMP:IR :FLT:DYN:PDL:REV:---:---:--- "301.Jazz CLN"
  8 DYN:DYN:MOD:AMP:CAB:DYN:PDL:REV:---:--- "302.70'sRhythm"
  7 DYN:DYN:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "303.Sparky"
  8 DYN:FLT:MOD:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "304.FunkyWah"
  7 DYN:DRV:PDL:MOD:DLY:AMP:IR :---:---:--- "305.Alt.HW"
  8 DYN:AMP:CAB:MOD:MOD:PDL:DLY:REV:---:--- "306.SwVibClean"
  8 DYN:DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:PDL:---:--- "307.DC.Crunch"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:DRV:AMP:IR :REV:---:---:--- "308.MudFuzz"
  7 DYN:IR :DLY:REV:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "309.AMB PAD"
  6 DYN:MOD:AMP:DLY:IR :PDL:---:---:---:--- "310.MoonSnow"
  7 DRV:AMP:FLT:CAB:DYN:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "311.Sequencer"
  8 DYN:AMP:MOD:CAB:PDL:SFX:DLY:REV:---:--- "312.Polyor"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:PDL:REV:---:---:--- "313.Red Hot"
  8 DYN:DRV:DLY:AMP:IR :DYN:REV:PDL:---:--- "314.UK Combo"
  8 DYN:PDL:DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:DLY:REV:---:--- "315.NYC Blue"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:PDL:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "316.TXS Blues"
  8 DYN:PDL:MOD:AMP:IR :MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "317.PunchLine"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :FLT:DLY:PDL:---:---:--- "318.PLX-DST"
  6 DYN:PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:---:---:---:--- "319.ExtraLD"
  7 DRV:DYN:FLT:DYN:AMP:IR :PDL:---:---:--- "320.ThickRiff"
  7 PDL:DYN:AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "321.PulseDelay"
  6 DYN:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "322.HW Dotted"
  7 DYN:MOD:DLY:AMP:IR :REV:PDL:---:---:--- "323.Andromeda"
  7 PDL:DYN:DYN:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:--- "324.1959Crunch"
  7 MOD:AMP:IR :DYN:PDL:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "325.Swellvibe"
  6 DYN:PDL:AMP:DYN:DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "326.ArpMachine"
  8 AMP:DYN:MOD:CAB:PDL:DLY:REV:REV:---:--- "327.UK Clean"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:MOD:AMP:IR :REV:---:---:--- "328.StayWavy"
  6 PDL:DRV:AMP:IR :DLY:REV:---:---:---:--- "329.Gig800"
  8 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:DLY:REV:---:--- "330.45 Clean"
  7 PDL:DYN:AMP:IR :MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "331.R&B Clean"
  6 PDL:DYN:AMP:IR :DYN:REV:---:---:---:--- "332.FD Clean"
  8 DYN:FLT:DRV:AMP:IR :MOD:MOD:REV:---:--- "333.Endorphin"
  6 DYN:AMP:IR :MOD:REV:PDL:---:---:---:--- "334.OctDown"
  7 DYN:DRV:AMP:IR :PDL:DLY:REV:---:---:--- "335.FuzzyTail"
 10 DYN:DYN:FLT:DRV:CAB:MOD:DLY:PDL:REV:--- "336.DarkMatter"
  8 DYN:DYN:AMP:CAB:PDL:MOD:DLY:REV:---:--- "337.ICE Clean"
  8 PDL:SFX:MOD:AMP:MOD:DLY:CAB:REV:---:--- "338.SciFiSyn"
  7 DYN:DRV:MOD:PDL:REV:AMP:CAB:---:---:--- "339.Memories"
  7 SFX:AMP:IR :DLY:DLY:REV:PDL:---:---:--- "340.BOMBER!!!"
  5 DRV:AMP:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "341.SVT Drive"
  6 DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "342.Fat B-MAN"
  6 DYN:AMP:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "343.SVT Clean"
  5 DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "344.Natural AG"
  6 DYN:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "345.SMR Slap"
  6 FLT:AMP:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "346.Warm AC370"
  6 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "347.Sunny DRV"
  6 DYN:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "348.EBH Slap"
  5 DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "349.Mark Tone"
  6 DYN:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "350.Classic TE"
  6 DRV:AMP:CAB:DYN:---:---:---:---:---:--- "351.Flip Tone"
  6 MOD:AMP:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "352.Poly Combo"
  7 DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "353.Portrait"
  5 DRV:AMP:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "354.Liverpool"
  6 AMP:CAB:DRV:FLT:---:---:---:---:---:--- "355.GZR Wah"
  6 SFX:AMP:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "356.LarryJet"
  6 DYN:MOD:FLT:MOD:FLT:---:---:---:---:--- "357.MM Clean"
  6 DYN:DRV:MOD:MOD:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "358.ModernJazz"
  7 DRV:FLT:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "359.BootFunk"
  5 SFX:MOD:DRV:DYN:---:---:---:---:---:--- "360.Wonderful"
  6 AMP:DYN:REV:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "361.Pop Clean"
  5 DRV:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "362.Pop Drive"
  5 DRV:DYN:FLT:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:--- "363.80' Studio"
  5 DRV:DYN:AMP:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "364.Slap 42"
  6 FLT:DYN:FLT:AMP:---:---:---:---:---:--- "365.M's Milk"
  6 DRV:FLT:FLT:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:--- "366.Blue Stone"
  6 DYN:DRV:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "367.RockSlap"
  6 DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "368.ProgBass"
  5 DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "369.The Ox Rox"
  5 MOD:AMP:IR :REV:---:---:---:---:---:--- "370.Synchroniz"
  6 DRV:DRV:MOD:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:--- "371.Heartbreak"
  6 DRV:AMP:IR :---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "372.RoundAB"
  5 DYN:DRV:DRV:AMP:---:---:---:---:---:--- "373.3 Finger"
  6 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "374.Wrathchild"
  5 AMP:CAB:DRV:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "375.EdgyBalls"
  6 DYN:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "376.Djent Bass"
  5 SFX:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "377.FunkyVoice"
  5 SFX:MOD:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "378.Synth Bass"
  6 DYN:SFX:REV:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "379.Low Devil"
  6 DYN:SFX:DRV:REV:---:---:---:---:---:--- "380.FM Bass"
  6 DYN:SFX:FLT:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "381.Chamelon"
  6 DYN:SFX:FLT:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "382.JustBeatIt"
  6 DYN:DRV:SFX:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "383.Raw Synth"
  6 DYN:SFX:MOD:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "384.MOOGYFONIC"
  6 DYN:AMP:FLT:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:--- "385.NYC Slap"
  6 DYN:AMP:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "386.Sweet SVT"
  7 DYN:AMP:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "387.DirtyOGB15"
  6 DYN:DRV:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "388.DISTORT ME"
  6 FLT:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "389.US Punk"
  6 DRV:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "390.RockDrive"
  6 AMP:DRV:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "391.DirtyDist"
  7 AMP:CAB:DRV:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "392.Race Car"
  7 DYN:MOD:FLT:DRV:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "393.FuzzyLead"
  7 DYN:DRV:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "394.Fuzzynator"
  7 DYN:MOD:FLT:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "395.Octavious"
  7 DYN:MOD:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "396.Octaflange"
  6 DRV:MOD:FLT:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "397.Octaver"
  7 MOD:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "398.OctChorus"
  6 DYN:MOD:DRV:REV:---:---:---:---:---:--- "399.OctVerb"
  5 DRV:DRV:AMP:CAB:---:---:---:---:---:--- "400.ReggaeSub"
  7 DYN:DRV:SFX:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "401.Fretless"
  6 DYN:DRV:FLT:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:--- "402.FilterThis"
  7 DYN:DRV:FLT:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "403.WahsMyFuzz"
  6 DRV:FLT:DYN:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "404.FunnyFunk"
  6 DYN:DRV:FLT:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:--- "405.WawaFriend"
  6 FLT:DYN:DRV:AMP:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "406.Wah Solo"
  7 DYN:MOD:FLT:REV:SFX:---:---:---:---:--- "407.FunkySolo"
  7 SFX:MOD:REV:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "408.Jet Bomber"
  6 AMP:CAB:MOD:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "409.CureLike"
  6 MOD:MOD:DLY:FLT:---:---:---:---:---:--- "410.SlapDtune"
  7 FLT:DRV:MOD:REV:---:---:---:---:---:--- "411.HotMonkey"
  7 AMP:CAB:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "412.StarshipTr"
  6 DYN:DRV:MOD:DRV:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "413.WesternMOV"
  7 DYN:MOD:DRV:FLT:---:---:---:---:---:--- "414.SawFuzzing"
  7 DYN:MOD:DRV:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "415.MagnumGuy"
  7 DYN:DRV:MOD:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "416.BlackHawk"
  7 DYN:MOD:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:--- "417.MoStrings"
  7 DYN:PDL:DRV:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "418.Metheneish"
  6 DYN:SFX:MOD:FLT:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "419.Minotaurio"
  6 DYN:SFX:FLT:FLT:---:---:---:---:---:--- "420.BubblSynth"
  7 DRV:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "421.HarmChords"
  6 DYN:DRV:MOD:DLY:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "422.Tapping"
  7 DLY:REV:DYN:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "423.Solo Bass"
  7 DYN:FLT:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "424.SpaceDelay"
  6 DYN:MOD:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:--- "425.Dramabass"
  7 DYN:MOD:FLT:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "426.Lowismo"
  5 DYN:MOD:DLY:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "427.Copy Glass"
  7 DYN:MOD:DLY:MOD:---:---:---:---:---:--- "428.OUTAWORLD"
  6 DYN:MOD:PDL:DRV:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "429.SwellUpper"
  7 DYN:MOD:MOD:MOD:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "430.Lunarchoir"
  6 DYN:AMP:MOD:FLT:DLY:---:---:---:---:--- "431.PlayThe4"
  7 DYN:DYN:MOD:FLT:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "432.Got Swells"
  6 DYN:DRV:REV:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "433.PiezoUpRig"
  6 DYN:DRV:DLY:---:---:---:---:---:---:--- "434.Soloist"
  6 DYN:AMP:CAB:REV:---:---:---:---:---:--- "435.SalsaBassQ"
  6 DYN:MOD:DRV:MOD:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "436.Uborchestr"
  6 DYN:MOD:DRV:FLT:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "437.BowOrch"
  6 DYN:DRV:MOD:FLT:REV:---:---:---:---:--- "438.BowUpright"
  6 DYN:MOD:FLT:DRV:MOD:---:---:---:---:--- "439.Marscoding"
  6 DYN:MOD:FLT:AMP:MOD:---:---:---:---:--- "440.MYOWNCOMPS"

There were a couple of crazily long chains in v1.00:

 10 DYN:MOD:MOD:AMP:IR :DYN:MOD:MOD:DLY:REV "057.Prog.M CLN"
 10 DYN:DYN:AMP:CAB:MOD:DYN:MOD:DLY:REV:PDL "065.SwVibClean"
 10 DYN:DYN:FLT:DRV:AMP:CAB:MOD:DLY:PDL:REV "100.DarkMatter"
nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

Here's a list of most frequently used effects across the standard G5n patches (all 125), sorted by category then descending by usage count. G5n denotes that it's a G5n variant (G1 FOUR often has its specific 1U/3S variant) .

G5n
---
    51 DYN "0x01000040.ZNR"
    17 DYN "0x01000010.Comp"
    13 DYN "0x01000020.RackComp"
G5n  7 FLT "0x02000053.Gt GEQ 7"
     5 FLT "0x02000010.AutoWah"
     5 FLT "0x02000040.SeqFLTR"
    16 DRV "0x03000010.TS Drive"
    10 DRV "0x03000040.GoldDrive"
     9 DRV "0x03000030.RC Boost"
     8 DRV "0x03000020.EP Stomp"
     7 DRV "0x030000c0.Aco.Sim"
     5 DRV "0x03000090.TB MK1.5"
G5n 28 AMP "0x04000020.FD TWNR"
G5n 19 AMP "0x04000010.MS 800"
G5n 14 AMP "0x04000050.XtasyBlue"
G5n 12 AMP "0x04000030.UK 30A"
    29 CAB "0x05000010.MS4x12"
    19 CAB "0x05000020.FD2x12"
    17 CAB "0x05000050.BGN4x12"
     8 CAB "0x05000030.UK2x12"
    10 MOD "0x06000040.Phaser"
     7 MOD "0x06000020.Chorus"
     6 MOD "0x06000030.StereoCho"
    20 DLY "0x08000030.TapeEcho"
G5n 17 DLY "0x08000010.Delay"
G5n 14 DLY "0x08000020.AnalogDly"
G5n  7 DLY "0x08000040.ReverseDL"
     5 DLY "0x08000050.ModDelay"
    19 REV "0x09000050.Spring"
    18 REV "0x09000030.Hall"
    16 REV "0x09000040.HD Hall"
    12 REV "0x09000060.FD Spring"
    11 REV "0x09000070.Plate"
     9 REV "0x09000020.Room"
     8 REV "0x09000010.Air"
    81 PDL "0x0b000010.PDL Vol"
     6 PDL "0x0b000020.BlackWah"
     5 PDL "0x0b000050.PDL Pitch"

Unsurprisingly, the most used effect module is ZNR (not counting the Volume pedal). Two runner ups are AMP "0x04000020.FD TWNR" (Fender Twin Reverb kind) and CAB "0x05000010.MS4x12" (Marshall 1960 A-type cabinet kind).

The most used DRV "0x03000010.TS Drive" (Tube Screamer kind) and "0x03000040.GoldDrive" (Gold Overdrive kind).

The second most used AMP "0x04000010.MS 800" (Marshall JCM800 2203 kind),

The second most used CAB "0x05000020.FD2x12" (Fender '65 Twin Reverb cabinet kind), followed by "0x05000050.BGN4x12" (Bogner Ecstasy cabinet kind).

In modulation category MOD "0x06000040.Phaser" is most used.

Not much surprise with delays -- DLY "0x08000030.TapeEcho" is a favorite, followed by "0x08000010.Delay" and "0x08000020.AnalogDly", which probably should have been combined and be the most used instead.

In reverbs (the most populated group in this ranking), the leadership is less obvious, generally, Spring and Hall are the most used.

No effect in SFX category was popular enough across the standard patches to make it over 5 count-cutoff.

All this does not mean that the other effects are not good, it just shows the preferences of the Zoom patch designers or marketers of the G5n. Also, this maybe skewed by initial availability of the effect modules, some of which at the G5n launch were not yet fully ported from ZDL format of the preceding models.

These findings transpose to G1 FOUR to some extent (as it has much fewer patches in general).

nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

The most frequently used effects across the B3n standard patches (75).

Similarly, B3n denotes the B3n variant (as opposed to respective B1 FOUR variant).

B3n
---
    14 DYN "0x01000040.ZNR"
    13 DYN "0x01800020.LMT-76"
    12 DYN "0x01800060.DYN Comp"
     6 DYN "0x01800010.BlackOpt"
     6 DYN "0x01800030.160 Comp"
     5 DYN "0x01800050.MB Comp"
     9 FLT "0x020000b0.Exciter"
     8 FLT "0x02800070.BassPEQ"
B3n  7 FLT "0x02800050.BassGEQ"
     7 FLT "0x02800080.Splitter"
     5 FLT "0x02800020.Z Tron"
B3n  6 DRV "0x03800020.D.I Plus"
     5 DRV "0x030000d0.NYC Muff"
B3n 10 AMP "0x04800020.BMAN100"
B3n  9 AMP "0x04800030.SMR400"
B3n  8 AMP "0x04800040.AG 750"
B3n  5 AMP "0x04800010.AMPG SVT"
     6 CAB "0x05800010.SVT8x10"
     6 CAB "0x05800020.FD-B4x12"
    12 MOD "0x06800050.Ba Octave"
     9 MOD "0x06800020.BassStCho"
     6 MOD "0x06800060.Ba Detune"
     5 MOD "0x06000040.Phaser"
     8 DLY "0x08000010.Delay"
B3n  6 DLY "0x08000020.AnalogDly"
     5 REV "0x09000040.HD Hall"

The preferences are harder to define in case of the Bass patches. Four most frequently used effect modules are:

Only two drives narrowly made it to the list: DRV "0x03800020.D.I Plus" (MXR M80 Bass D.I.+ kind) and "0x030000d0.NYC Muff" (Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi kind).

In addition to BMAN100, a few more AMPs are almost as equally "popular" "0x04800030.SMR400" (SWR SM-400 kind) and "0x04800040.AG 750" (Aguilar DB 750 kind). Surprisingly, SVT is less frequently referenced.

Out of cabinets, only two made it to the list: CAB "0x05800010.SVT8x10" (Ampeg SVT-810E kind) and `"0x05800020.FD-B4x12" (Fender Bassman 100 kind).

In modulation category, Bass Octave and Stereo Chorus are the most used.

Finally, Delay and HD Hall reverb are the most used.

These findings transpose mostly onto B1 FOUR patches (these make frequent use of FLT 0x020000b0.Exciter)

nomadbyte commented 1 year ago

Finally, in Acoustic set of A1 FOUR patches it's harder to spot the preferences, as the number of patches is much smaller (40) and about half of them are MDL-specific (acoustic guitar model), so the counts are much smaller.

11 DYN "0x01000020.RackComp"
 6 DYN "0x01000080.OptComp"
 6 FLT "0x02400040.Bone EQ"
 5 FLT "0x02000071.ParaEQx2"
 5 FLT "0x02a00166.Hm Bullet"
 5 FLT "0x02a00380.Tp GEQ"
 5 MOD "0x06a01001.PolyOctDw"
 8 DLY "0x08000021.AnalogDly"
 8 DLY "0x08400000.Ac TpEcho"
 4 DLY "0x08000011.Delay"
14 REV "0x09000070.Plate"
 6 REV "0x09a01000.DryPlate"
 5 REV "0x09000020.Room"
 4 REV "0x09000030.Hall"

Two most frequently used effects are REV "0x09000070.Plate" (Plate Reverb) and DYN "0x01000020.RackComp" (Rack Compressor).

In filter category it's EQ effects, FLT "0x02400040.Bone EQ".

Most used modulation is MOD "0x06a01001.PolyOctDw" (Octave down).

Delays are obviously "popular" (Delay/AnalogDly) and also DLY "0x08400000.Ac TpEcho" (Acoustic TapeEcho). Combined, the delays would be the most used.

Out of reverbs it's Plate and REV "0x09a01000.DryPlate".

Of course, such ranking says nothing about the actual models, which are the "beef" of the acoustic patches. Well, hopefully it says something about the "sauce".