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Grace notes should be treated as their own notes and not just a child to a parent note. #18484

Open caden8822 opened 1 year ago

caden8822 commented 1 year ago

Your idea

Grace notes currently can only receive their own articulation/ornaments, pitch, and can only be placed sequentially. This is problematic when you want different pitches played at the same time inside a grace note. If grace notes were made to be independent, things like having Ottava Alta and chords could be applied inside grace notes as well.

Problem to be solved

MuseScore could support notation like this:

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DaddyLudwig commented 1 year ago

You can do grace note chords. If you do either Shift + note or Alt + interval on a grace note, you will get a grace note chord. It works just the same way as turning a single regular note into a chord.

oktophonie commented 1 year ago

This is definitely coming, don't worry :) (chords are already possible as described)

caden8822 commented 1 year ago

You can do grace note chords. If you do either Shift + note or Alt + interval on a grace note, you will get a grace note chord. It works just the same way as turning a single regular note into a chord.

I couldn't find any support on those! I guess I wouldn't have found anything explicitly searching for inputting grace note chords though. Thank you so much!

caden8822 commented 1 year ago

This is definitely coming, don't worry :) (chords are already possible as described)

Awesome! Thank you!

bluebear94 commented 1 year ago

It’s also not currently possible to have lyrics on grace notes as in this example (using LilyPond):

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Jojo-Schmitz commented 4 months ago

The Lyrics part came up long ago in https://musescore.org/en/node/44411

wizofaus commented 1 month ago

Will this include ability to enter grace note pitches via keyboard/MIDI keyboard? The current behaviour when you select a grace note and try to change its pitch via the keyboard or MIDI input is very odd.

Ability to change notes between grace notes and standard notes would also be pretty handy, e.g. if you originally notate a complex run metrically then decide it's overly fussy and grace notes would be more appropriate.

oktophonie commented 1 month ago

Obviously.