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While in part-view, it is impossible to listen to the part while hearing the rest of the score (play part only checkbox) #18867

Open oMrSmith opened 1 year ago

oMrSmith commented 1 year ago

Issue type

General playback bug

Bug description

In MU3 there is a checkbox in the mixer, called "play part only". It can be unchecked in order to listen to the part in context of the rest of the score.

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I consider this a very basic and significant feature, which has been left out in MU4.

Steps to reproduce

Try to listen to a part in part-view while still hearing the rest of the score.

Screenshots/Screen recordings

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MuseScore Version

OS: Windows 10 Version 2009 or later, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 4.1.1-232120504, revision: github-musescore-musescore-e4d1ddf

Regression

Yes, this used to work in MuseScore 3.x and is now impossible.

Operating system

Windows 10

Additional context

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MarcSabatella commented 1 year ago

This is part of the discussion in https://github.com/orgs/musescore/discussions/15945; probably best to continue there.

oMrSmith commented 1 year ago

Even if this specific case is somewhat related to the discussion, I find it a good idea to have it open as a sperate issue, which could be linked. The team shall descide though...

scorster commented 9 months ago

Lots of requests and astonishment regarding the omission of Play Part Only:

There's a significant .org discussion containing MANY requests that development include MS3.x's Play Parts Only toggle in MuseScore 4.

Here's a post of mine from within that discussion.

Play Part Only behavior in MuseScore 3.6

MuseScore 3.6.2's Play Part Only button is located prominently at the top of the Mixer, it's checked by default, and disabled when the user is in normal score view.

Play Part Only is enabled when the user views any Part. Checking the Play Part Only box is equivalent to soloing the Part. When unchecked we hear the Part with the score playing according to the Mixer settings.

I'd prefer unchecked as the default state for Play Part Only.

Use cases and suggestions:

Use case 1:

I share a score with a student with the assignment to read from the Part while playing along in MuseScore 3.6. Since most of my students use MuseScore strictly for playing along they're unfamiliar with the various windows, panels and controls. Not surprisingly, in unfamiliar territory they have trouble opening the Mixer and unchecking the button. Having Play Part Only unchecked by default would surely advance the use of MuseScore in education by providing an automatic play-along environment in Part view.)

Currently MuseScore 4.2 has no option for reading from the part while hearing the score, so inherently it is less educationally friendly than MuseScore 3.

Use case 2:

For my style of editing I almost always want to hear the Part in context of the overall mix.

Suggestion:

Ultimately "Solo this Part" might be a better name for the feature.

Thanks to oMrSmith for initiating this Github request!

Please bring it back!

If Part Part only is indeed equivalent to toggling the solo state of the track then it's surprising this hasn't been fixed now, more than a year after the release of MuseScore 4. And equally surprising that it was omitted at all.

scorster

DocBobB commented 9 months ago

I know this is being discussed as part of the thread about hearing invisible staves, but I want to emphasize the difference. I need to view a part while the whole score is playing for 2 reasons…. One is to check the scoring of that part without distraction, and, more importantly, to play along as a means of learning a part for rehearsal. I hate to have to revert to 3.6 but since saved scores aren’t backwards compatible I think I have to.

MarcSabatella commented 9 months ago

You can already have the functionality, you just do it by hiding staves instead of instruments. But indeed, better alternatives are in development.

DocBobB commented 9 months ago

Thanks Marc.   I have 30 staves. I would have to hide 29 of them, and it is sloooow.  Hopefully soon it’ll function without needing a workaround.

Great work on MS 4 by the way.  I attend a monthly composers’ workshop and it’s getting respect there!

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