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More usable default drum kit voicing #23331

Closed Koopa1018 closed 1 week ago

Koopa1018 commented 1 week ago

Your idea

Would greatly appreciate if, when writing drum parts, kick+snare defaulted to sharing a voice, and hi-hat defaulted to a separate voice.

Problem to be solved

The short answer is, the current default voice arrangement makes common drum parts a pain to write, because it violates the note-writing logic present in the rest of MuseScore.

The long answer is: Consider this basic backbeat. image Observe that the kick and snare alternate beats, while the hi-hat runs over top in a continuous stream of 8th notes. Most other drum patterns are simple variations of this one.

My experience of trying to write this with the common pattern is usually as follows:

Compare that to the workflow for writing melodic lines:

And when I use a modified drumset where kick and snare share a voice and hi-hat has its own voice:

(buut now you've gone and added two extra drum kit instruments, so now I have to maintain three drumset files instead of one.)

Prior art

Afraid I don't remember how Finale did it. It's been a hot minute since I last used that.

Additional context

I am aware that what I'm asking for may not produce technically-correct drum parts, but @Tantacrul knows what putting technical correctness over usability did to Dorico 😈

zacjansheski commented 1 week ago

We have a plan for improving this experience. I'm going to close this because it is not the right direction for us.

For your information: "Hands up, feet down" is the most common way to notate. "All in one voice" is the second most common. "Cymbals up, drums down" is least common.

In other words, it would be better to put everything in one voice than do what you are suggesting.

We should make it easier to use all three and switch between them, since they are all accepted methods, but using "Hands up and feet down" as the default makes the most sense.

Koopa1018 commented 6 days ago

Yeah...I figured you might say that. Hoped you would at least take note of the experience I was having, though. (Incidentally, is there a place to submit UX complaints? I didn't see an option for it in the New Issue menu, so I figured this was the next best thing.)

zacjansheski commented 5 days ago

To be clear, your experience is noted, but changing the default voicing isn't the way forward.

Feel free to share thoughts and discuss on the General Discussion forums https://musescore.org/en/forum/11 or Discord