Incorrect Symbol for Ottava Bassa 8vb

Pinary-Pi commented 1 month ago

Issue type

Engraving bug (incorrect score rendering)

Description with steps to reproduce

Insert an ottava bassa line anywhere in your score.
De-select the "Show numbers only" checkbox under properties and style. The text on the ottava bassa line will be "8va" instead of the expected "8vb".

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What is the latest version of MuseScore Studio where this issue is present?

OS: Windows 11 Version 2009 or later, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore Studio version (64-bit): 4.4.2-242570931, revision: github-musescore-musescore-3130f97

Regression

Yes, this used to work in MuseScore 3.x and now is broken

Operating system

Windows 11

Additional context

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Pinary-Pi commented 1 month ago

Thought that this picture could be helpful too. It shows that it is using the "ottavaBassa" symbol.

Now, I am aware that 8va does mean an octave above or below depending on the context, but 8vb is soo much clearer and in practice I've personally never seen an 8va symbol mean play an octave lower on scores I've used. There should at least be the option to change it.

Dima-S-Jr commented 1 month ago

@Pinary-Pi, watch this comment, and that's it, I think your issue is closed. Your issue is a duplicate. I advise you to refer to the SMuFL where you can find out for yourself what is not really a bug.

Jojo-Schmitz commented 1 month ago

This isn't incorrect at all, the va is the Italian version of th, 8va == 8th and whether it is bassa or alta is seen by whether it is below or above the staff. And there is an option already to change to 8vb, if you really need it.

Pinary-Pi commented 1 month ago

@Pinary-Pi, watch this comment, and that's it, I think your issue is closed. Your issue is a duplicate. I advise you to refer to the SMuFL where you can find out for yourself what is not really a bug.

Oh thank you! I did not know where this was, so I appreciate the link to the list of ottava options. I also didn't realize this was a duplicate. I looked but I must've missed the other one, sorry about that.

Pinary-Pi commented 1 month ago

This isn't incorrect at all, the va is the Italian version of th, 8va == 8th and whether it is bassa or alta is seen by whether it is below or above the staff. And there is an option already to change to 8vb, if you really need it.

Italian doesn't really have a version of 'th' in the same way English does, but yes, I do know 8va = 8th and that it's technically not incorrect so I should've used a better word, sorry. I didn't realize there was an option to change it, but I believe I figured it out now. Thanks for letting me know! I think it should be at least easier to find it, however. Maybe in the form of a check box or something else?

I'll close this issue though because my issue seems to have been solved.

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