Triller line adding neutral sign when it should not

henkdegroot commented 5 days ago

Issue type

Engraving bug (incorrect score rendering)

Description with steps to reproduce

Create a score, select the Timpani instrument, use a key like Eb Majeur.

Add some notes B-flat and E-flat Add a courtesy accidental to the notes (this is very common for timpani parts) Add a trill with line

A neutral accidental is now appering above the trill.

Repeat the same without using the courtesy accendital, and the trill is working as expected (without the neutral being added).

Note: First adding the trill (before adding the courtesy accidental) adds the trill without the neutral. However, the neutral appears again after closing/opening the score.

Another option could have been to make the neutral invisible, but it is really hard to select that. I found that after you disable the auoplacement, you can select the accidental and mark it is not visible. As long as you don't click/select the trill line, you can select the accidental and make it visible again. After you select the trill line again, you can no longer select the accidental. Enable/disable the autoplacement on the trill line, and then you can select the accidental again. Seems some odd logic is happening here.

Supporting files, videos and screenshots

Adding a MS file here. timpani-test-trill.mscz.zip

Just remove the .zip extension.

What is the latest version of MuseScore Studio where this issue is present?

4.4.3

Regression

No.

Operating system

Windows 11

Additional context

No response

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zacjansheski commented 3 days ago

Selecting the accidental certainly is not easy, but I am able to do it with cntrl/click So there is a pretty fast workaround here but certainly room for improvement (confirmed: not a regression)

DaddyLudwig commented 3 days ago

I've noticed this "accidental being added above the trill where there's a courtesy accidental on the note" thing happening with trills on all pitched instruments. And not just the trill lines either, but the standalone ornaments as well.

It's a bit annoying to be putting in a courtesy accidental that the composer wrote and then adding the trill ornament(most of the trills I've come across have been just the standalone tr on a single note) only to have to select the accidental above the trill and make it invisible.

henkdegroot commented 3 days ago

Selecting the accidental certainly is not easy, but I am able to do it with cntrl/click

Thank you for this tip, that works fine to select the accidental and hide it.

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