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DIN SPEC 15800 General Device Type Format (GDTF) and My Virtual Rig (MVR) File Format description DIN SPEC 15801
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MVR: Fixture filters #50

Closed LxLasso closed 1 year ago

LxLasso commented 3 years ago

Filters added to conventional fixtures are an important aspect to theatrical lighting design. It should be possible to list a number of filters added to each fixture. This includes frost filters.

moritzstaffel commented 3 years ago

This is possible with the CIE Color of a fixture defined in MVR. The listing of the filters is possible with the GDTF.

The support for a frost filter is a good idea.

LxLasso commented 3 years ago

We could bake filters into a CIE Color in the MVR, but noone on the receiving end could reverse engineer which the filters were. Putting the filters in the GDTF seems odd, this would create a new unique GDTF file for any combination of filters in the design.

What is needed is a way of combining a GDTF file with a list of accessories, such as filters, gobos, shutter parameters etc. This all exists in CSV file exports from lighting design softwares today.

Unless the intention is to actually have unique GDTF files for every fixture, but I'm guessing not since other per-instance information such as DMX patch has been left out.

moritzstaffel commented 3 years ago

We could bake filters into a CIE Color in the MVR, but noone on the receiving end could reverse engineer which the filters were. Putting the filters in the GDTF seems odd, this would create a new unique GDTF file for any combination of filters in the design. You are right here. I think we need to do a similar thing like we did for the connector. So define a list of the most common used filters as string, and then add them as a flag to the fixture. As this is different per fixture, I think the property for this should be really in MVR.

LxLasso commented 3 years ago

define a list of the most common used filters

That's bound to end up with every filter that exists. Rosco, LEE and Apollo together are around 2000 filters. Would you ultimately not end up having to replicate all existing filters in all fixtures?

I would add a collection of filter names to the MVR:

  ..
  <Color>..</Color>
  <Filters>
    <Filter>R344</Filter>
    <Filter>R119</Filter>
  </Filters>
</Fixture>

(And similarly for gobos, which would be even harder to narrow down to commonly used ones.)

moritzstaffel commented 1 year ago

This is part of MVR 1.5 and GDTF 1.2