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Make widget SMALLER #192

Open Comfunc opened 3 months ago

Comfunc commented 3 months ago

I know the widget can be made bigger, but I'd like the option to make it smaller.

I want to make it 1/3rd size, but 1/2 size may also be useful.

The reason is that on a big screen, the widget is over twice as big as it needs to be to show its text, so it unnecessarily overlays and spoils the photo image.

Comfunc commented 3 months ago

Sorry to be slow, but I've looked everywhere and can't see where or how I post a bounty on this?

rajdude commented 3 months ago

Yeah, the last time I asked Martin to fix something was like 4 or 5 years ago and I used bountysource dot com. That website is gone now. I also may want to post a bounty on an issue I just opened.

rajdude commented 3 months ago

I know the widget can be made bigger, but I'd like the option to make it smaller.

I want to make it 1/3rd size, but 1/2 size may also be useful.

The reason is that on a big screen, the widget is over twice as big as it needs to be to show its text, so it unnecessarily overlays and spoils the photo image.

By the way, I am not sure why you feel that the HUD widget is too big. I have a 85" TV which I use this app on (running on nVidia Shield). I disabled the clock (no need). Then I actually made the widget bigger (2x) since it was not showing the whole path of my photo, along with its name.

You are talking about the text on the lower left corner of the screen, correct?

I do not see any other widget while the slide-show is running. Just the photo is there on the whole TV screen (and the file name on the lower left, which I do want).

Comfunc commented 3 months ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking along these lines.

Basically, the current model of Android one-off payment software development, is broken. We need another model which is similarly based on the idea of massive numbers allowing a low payment, but the payment needs to be repeating yearly in order to allow support.

Or another model is that each major version is available for a one-off cost, but after, say 3 Android OS versions, it's behaviour is patchy or broken, and you need to pay for a new version. After all, if you're still using that app after 3 OS upgrades, it must be useful to you.

On Windows I use Directory Opus and Applian Capture Suite which run along these lines, and it seems quite reasonable. [sent from mobile]

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Yeah, the last time I asked Martin to fix something was like 4 or 5 years ago and I used bountysource dot com. That website is gone now. I also may want to post a bounty on an issue I just opened. BTW, since it has been 2 weeks and Martin has not replied to you, I am a little worried about this app. This is the ONLY app which has the features I want and use. I hope it stays alive.

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Comfunc commented 3 months ago

Yes, I'm talking about the text in the lower left corner of the screen.

The selection of information to display is complicated. Too much, and it's lost. Too little, and you are lost. That's why you removed the clock - it's not necessary (ie strictly necessary for YOUR purposes) so is a distraction.

The aspect ration of my photos is less wide than the aspect ratio of my screen. So I have a couple of totally reasonable black bars down the side of even landscape photos.

I want the widget to fit in this black bar. There's plenty of space and I don't want it plastered over the bottom of my photo. Those images represent many hours of careful work. They are not enhanced by having text written across them. And I only want to refer to that text occasionally, so it can be small and discrete.

Actually, I worked in software development for many decades. My approach was to give the user whatever trivial customisation options he wanted. The world out there is way bigger than you can ever imagine, so it's best to just give it the freedom to adapt in the best way it sees fit. It will eventually boil down to some kind of stable stasis, and probably in a more functional form than we could have imagined. [sent from mobile]

On Fri, 23 Aug 2024, 23:12 rajdude, @.***> wrote:

I know the widget can be made bigger, but I'd like the option to make it smaller.

I want to make it 1/3rd size, but 1/2 size may also be useful.

The reason is that on a big screen, the widget is over twice as big as it needs to be to show its text, so it unnecessarily overlays and spoils the photo image.

By the way, I am not sure why you feel that the HUD widget is too big. I have a 85" TV which I use this app on (running on nVidia Shield). I disabled the clock (no need). Then I actually made the widget bigger (2x) since it was not showing the whole path of my photo, along with its name.

You are talking about the text on the lower left corner of the screen, correct?

I do not see any other widget while the slide-show is running. Just the photo is there on the whole TV screen (and the file name on the lower left, which I do want).

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rajdude commented 3 months ago

Hmm.....I see your viewpoint. I do not have a solution, but I do have some suggestions...

  1. My photos are also not 16:9. They are all 4:3 aspect ratio so they are displayed on my TV as pillar boxed. But I just found a setting in this app, which zooms into the photo and then scrolls the photo up and down slowly. That fixes the pillar box photos problem (for me at least). The photo then fills the entire screen's width. But I hear you, you want the HUD (as Martin calls it) to be on the side, in those black bars and not intruding into your photos. If I were you, I would simply disable HUD. You CAN show that data if needed, by hitting the up arrow on the remote. I think on a touchscreen, a tap does it.
  2. I also work in IT, and I have noticed that --- what is very obvious to one person could be totally oblivious to others! LoL. That is why so many things which seem to be no brainer to a consumer are not implemented by a software developer. I know this is not a suggestion, but unfortunately, I deal with this every day :-) Maybe a software enhancement request is in order - make the HUD vertical on the left/right side! ;-) ?
Comfunc commented 2 months ago

Thanks for the suggestions!

  1. Perhaps I don't belong in this modern world anymore.
    • I've no problem with black bars at the sides of photos or movies. I just want it in it's orignal aspect ratio. After spending thousands of hours taking and curating high quality photos and images, I just want them displayed as is. Would you do the automatic cropping and zooming around thing with a Rembrandt? Actually, it's a great idea. If they put portholes in front of Guernica, then many more people could see it (altho they'd only see a bit of it at a time as the porthole moved forward).
  1. This is so true. I managed to preserve my 'normal person' mind even while becoming a software developer, so I could see why the users got so upset. As for the HUD, if I did it, I'd just make 4 fields corresponding to the 4 corners, which could be configured with any of about 4 bits of information, and which have a few formatting and sizing options. It's really only a single piece of code, with a placement option. There's no point in deciding anything specific, just let the user do what he wants, and at the end of the day it's only fractionally more work. The objection is "But what if the users puts the time in BOTH top corners?" and the answer is "I don't care".

:-)

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Hmm.....I see your viewpoint. I do not have a solution, but I do have some suggestions...

  1. My photos are also not 16:9. They are all 4:3 aspect ratio so they are displayed on my TV as pillar boxed. But I just found a setting in this app, which zooms into the photo and then scrolls the photo up and down slowly. That fixes the pillar box photos problem (for me at least). The photo then fills the entire screen's width. But I hear you, you want the HUD (as Martin calls it) to be on the side, in those black bars and not intruding into your photos. If I were you, I would simply disable HUD. You CAN show that data if needed, by hitting the up arrow on the remote. I think on a touchscreen, a tap does it.
  2. I also work in IT, and I have noticed that --- what is very obvious to one person could be totally oblivious to others! LoL. That is why so many things which seem to be no brainer to a consumer are not implemented by a software developer. I know this is not a suggestion, but unfortunately, I deal with this every day :-) Maybe a software enhancement request is in order - make the HUD vertical on the left/right side! ;-) ?

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