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scout/dog unit #257

Closed simionpadawan closed 10 years ago

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i have made the body for it but i dont know how the head should look its totaly not finished

dogscout2 dogscout

(src: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/78028658/1/dogscout?h=69c38c)

n3wm1nd commented 12 years ago

still missing a bit of a "head" element... but still awesome :D

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i know but i still have to add that + a gun on the back dont know if i will use the tail or the body

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

did some more today :D dunno what do do with the front probably a weapon or something.

seedship commented 12 years ago

Made with blender?

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

Wings 3D nothing else atm

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i need to know what faction it is gonna join before i texture it hehe

seedship commented 12 years ago

TLL? Do you use http://springfiles.com/spring/tools/upspring-texture-pack-v2 or default with Upspring? Do you texture by modifying UV map in image editor like me?

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i do UV maps with paint or photoshop

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i used default first thx for giving me a link

seedship commented 12 years ago

You do it like me! I thought Upspring might have some faster way. I only found 2nd version while I was looking to download Upspring after I lost original link from Spring's website.

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

:D bla what did u already make? and i am gonna texture this soon nice idea tll would fit i think!

seedship commented 12 years ago

I wasn't very productive because I was having problems learning to stop playing an FPS game. I'm not even sure any model I make will work ingame. TBH, at first, I was worried that you already had V2 and every modeller had it and giving you link would make me look new, though I am new at modelling. The only textured (I have many untextured) model I have is core t4 energy storage. https://github.com/Bla1/Stuff/downloads How do you make UV maps with wings? I bet its better than my select all edges and mark for cut.

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

click on ur object and uv mapping there is a tut here http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=13034

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

here is my web thats all my work http://www.modelers.webs.com/

seedship commented 12 years ago

Hm, I never did the 'flip UVs' or 'Recalculate Vertex Normals 3DO Style'. I also never defined the model radius and height, but that is because I don't know how big model will be ingame.

seedship commented 12 years ago

I don't think flip UVs applies to my case... What is good value for recalculate Vertex Normals 3do style? Is default good?

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

I cant find the Tll icons i think default is good but i dont really know yet

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i made some textures but i really need icons http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/78028658/1/dogscout?h=69c38c

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

Can anybody help me to find icons for TLL?

seedship commented 12 years ago

Are you having problems with extraction? Do you use linux or windows? If you have access to a linux machine, I think it's file browser can extract .7z. I don't know how to unzip with windows. If you can extract, then I think it was in the folder with common textures for both Talon & The Lost Legacy

nixtux commented 12 years ago

Icons? You mean logos. If so look in /unittexture/tatex

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

yea logos but i cant find any from tll in the map and lost legacy? i cant even find that one.....

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

Please help me i want to get going texturing! :D

seedship commented 12 years ago

why are only 3 tll logos I see in .tga format? I see TLL logos in UpSpring TexturePack v2.7z/Talon&TLL_Textures.zip/UnitTextures/TAtex/race32Dk00.BMP --or-- UpSpring TexturePack v2.7z/Talon&TLL_Textures.zip/UnitTextures/TAtex/race32Lt00.BMP --or-- UpSpring TexturePack v2.7z/Talon&TLL_Textures.zip/UnitTextures/TAtex/raceLogoGouraud00.BMP

nixtux commented 12 years ago

These are the same logos just in tga format for team color which is broken. That's why tll logos are pink

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

Got it thx :D

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

and the pic is blue is this a ingame bug?

nixtux commented 12 years ago

We tried doing this with original bmp but failed http://springrts.com/wiki/Units:Textures

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

?? but i dont see a problem?

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

well i got this atm i hope u guys like it but i dont know about the texture with the legs.... http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/78028658/1/dogscout?h=69c38c

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

the legs further aren't textured yet

seedship commented 12 years ago

If you're texturing in .s3o format, I recommend fill bucketting the blue to white in logo, and make the area teamcolor in 2nd part of texture. If your texturing in .3do format, I don't know how to make the area teamcolor, though you should still do it. For consistency reasons, many players want TLL units to have teamcolor logos like arm and core, instead of blue ones. Thats why a dev tried to change things and make them pink by accident.

nix, if I used only textures from original cavedog texture pack, will my models be okay, or will I have to give you all textures I modified or something? Or am I okay because I am modeling in .s3o? (Why do we keep a big list of all the textures in game files?)

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

I am done now i need some help i am texturing in bmp i dont really know how to use upsirng i need somebody for the movement animation etc tough + stats

seedship commented 12 years ago

In Upspring, go to Texture Mapping=>Show s3o texture builder. If your using texture 2 (which is first tab, and one you see right after opening), then browse for reflection (which is above) and illumination (which is below). Then use space on bottom to define output location (make sure is in .dds format, you have to add file extension). Then click build texture 2.

Then click texture 1, and browse for the texture with the colors of the model (RGB texture, which is above). Then browse for texture 2, the teamcolor, which is below. Then use space on bottom to define output location (make sure is in .dds format, you have to add file extension). Then click build texture 1.

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i need to retexture it so i cant do that right now i have a dds plugin so im k with that but whats with 2 textures i dont unterstand bla?

seedship commented 12 years ago

2nd texture is for how reflective some parts of unit are and what parts glow. Its optional, so your okay if you don't make it, only first texture with RGB channel and teamcolor are mandatory. I noticed I made a typo, for last sentence in my above comment, I meant 'Then click build texture 1'. I changed it above now.

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

i remapped the UV now have to make textures again :P

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

doing that tommorow :D

seedship commented 12 years ago

Remapped UV? Just out of curiosity, why?

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

well i had made a multiple texture model of it so i needed to put it all in one texture file wich took me a lot of work and the UVmapping of wings 3D isnt so good so i had to do it on my own :(

seedship commented 12 years ago

How do you UV map on your own? I would like to do that, as wings 3D's uv mapper sux. Where could I get a tutorial?

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

yea i UV map on my own. really that would be nice :D what format for the model would u need? for a tutorial lets see http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=13034 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2_-AYeXuI

seedship commented 12 years ago

Hm, wings unwraps one of my models in a strange way. http://cloud.github.com/downloads/Bla1/Stuff/needhelp.png The square and four shapes around it are not square, so I cannot drag and drop an image onto them. Do you know what I did wrong (if I made a stupid mistake, that makes sense because I'm an amateur modeler), or have any idea to straighten them?

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

lets see u are selecting the faces u can just select the whole model/cube and press uvmap and do it that way. is it just a normal cube or are there any atachments to it?

seedship commented 12 years ago

Hm, only thing about cube that can't be seen with picture is that bottom has been hollowed with .hole.

seedship commented 12 years ago

Here is link to model (with only that strange cube UV mapped) http://cloud.github.com/downloads/Bla1/Stuff/t4armmstor-help.wings

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

can,t u give me a downloadeble link? so i can download the model to see whats wrong?

seedship commented 12 years ago

huh? above link doesn't work? I have it in my github. https://github.com/Bla1/Stuff/downloads just click t4armmstor-help.wings (first one down)

simionpadawan commented 12 years ago

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