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ARRL-DIGI missing Grid header #599

Closed n4af closed 2 years ago

n4af commented 2 years ago

There is a display problem in cabrillo:

START-OF-LOG: 3.0 CREATED-BY: TR4W v.4.111.1 CALLSIGN: UR7QM CONTEST: ARRL-DIGI

QSO: 14000 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76\Ѓ HA1RB JN8

There is no such problem in cabrillo formed in WSJT-X:

START-OF-LOG:3.0 LOCATION: KN76QT CONTEST: ARRL DIGI CALLSIGN: UR7QM

QSO: 14075 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76 HA1RB JN86

ny4i commented 2 years ago

I saw that once but could not reproduce it with the debugger. I’ll check again.

Tom

Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771

On May 15, 2022, at 5:57 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

 There is a display problem in cabrillo:

START-OF-LOG: 3.0 CREATED-BY: TR4W v.4.111.1 CALLSIGN: UR7QM CONTEST: ARRL-DIGI

QSO: 14000 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76\Ѓ HA1RB JN8

There is no such problem in cabrillo formed in WSJT-X:

START-OF-LOG:3.0 LOCATION: KN76QT CONTEST: ARRL DIGI CALLSIGN: UR7QM

QSO: 14075 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76 HA1RB JN86

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n4af commented 2 years ago

I have written to ARRL to see what it should be. I could not find a CBR header example for this contest.

On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 8:29 AM Tom Schaefer @.***> wrote:

I saw that once but could not reproduce it with the debugger. I’ll check again.

Tom

Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771

On May 15, 2022, at 5:57 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

 There is a display problem in cabrillo:

START-OF-LOG: 3.0 CREATED-BY: TR4W v.4.111.1 CALLSIGN: UR7QM CONTEST: ARRL-DIGI

QSO: 14000 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76\Ѓ HA1RB JN8

There is no such problem in cabrillo formed in WSJT-X:

START-OF-LOG:3.0 LOCATION: KN76QT CONTEST: ARRL DIGI CALLSIGN: UR7QM

QSO: 14075 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76 HA1RB JN86

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ny4i commented 2 years ago

I think I asked when I created it but using this as a guide, https://wwrof.org/cabrillo/cabrillo-v3-header/ , ARRL-DIGI is right.

Also, WSJT-X is using location wrong. It should be GRID-LOCATOR: text

Locator is for section or other info.

Tom

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On May 15, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

 I have written to ARRL to see what it should be. I could not find a CBR header example for this contest.

On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 8:29 AM Tom Schaefer @.***> wrote:

I saw that once but could not reproduce it with the debugger. I’ll check again.

Tom

Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771

On May 15, 2022, at 5:57 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

 There is a display problem in cabrillo:

START-OF-LOG: 3.0 CREATED-BY: TR4W v.4.111.1 CALLSIGN: UR7QM CONTEST: ARRL-DIGI

QSO: 14000 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76\Ѓ HA1RB JN8

There is no such problem in cabrillo formed in WSJT-X:

START-OF-LOG:3.0 LOCATION: KN76QT CONTEST: ARRL DIGI CALLSIGN: UR7QM

QSO: 14075 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76 HA1RB JN86

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ny4i commented 2 years ago

I can fix these today.

Tom

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On May 15, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

 I have written to ARRL to see what it should be. I could not find a CBR header example for this contest.

On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 8:29 AM Tom Schaefer @.***> wrote:

I saw that once but could not reproduce it with the debugger. I’ll check again.

Tom

Principal Solutions Architect Better Software Solutions, Inc. 727-437-2771

On May 15, 2022, at 5:57 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

 There is a display problem in cabrillo:

START-OF-LOG: 3.0 CREATED-BY: TR4W v.4.111.1 CALLSIGN: UR7QM CONTEST: ARRL-DIGI

QSO: 14000 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76\Ѓ HA1RB JN8

There is no such problem in cabrillo formed in WSJT-X:

START-OF-LOG:3.0 LOCATION: KN76QT CONTEST: ARRL DIGI CALLSIGN: UR7QM

QSO: 14075 DG 2022-05-15 0516 UR7QM KN76 HA1RB JN86

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ny4i commented 2 years ago

I added GRID-LOCATOR plus I found an issue in the MYExchange and HIS Exchange section. There was an array used for CABRILLO_MYEX that really should have been zeroed out before each contact is written. I have seen random errors where there will be some garbage characters after the exchange. This all depended what was in memory which explains why I would see it on and off.

n4af commented 2 years ago

The ARRL Log submission page uses some of the information provided in the upload questionnaire to determine entry category, which is independent of the information in the Cabrillo header. Categories for the most part are selected on the uploader webpage.

The CONTEST: header as ARRL-DIGI is correct.

LOCATION: should be the ARRL/RAC Section (or DX for Non US/Canadian stations). If a grid is in this field upon upload, it is replaced with the section or DX that is provided by the participant in the upload questionnaire page.

However, If a grid location is to be entered the header, it should be in the GRID-LOCATOR: field, not LOCATION: This often

The station’s sent 6 digit grid should be included in each QSO line, which would be used for scoring:

QSO: 50 DG 2022-06-07 1818 N7KSI CN86MN KD7UO CN87XJ

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

73,

Paul Bourque, N1SFE

Contest Program Manager

ny4i commented 2 years ago

I am going to email Paul if you are ok. I do not believe we get the 6 digit grid from WSJT-X so I do not know how we could ever log that.

Tom

On May 16, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

The ARRL Log submission page uses some of the information provided in the upload questionnaire to determine entry category, which is independent of the information in the Cabrillo header. Categories for the most part are selected on the uploader webpage.

The CONTEST: header as ARRL-DIGI is correct.

LOCATION: should be the ARRL/RAC Section (or DX for Non US/Canadian stations). If a grid is in this field upon upload, it is replaced with the section or DX that is provided by the participant in the upload questionnaire page.

However, If a grid location is to be entered the header, it should be in the GRID-LOCATOR: field, not LOCATION: This often

The station’s sent 6 digit grid should be included in each QSO line, which would be used for scoring:

QSO: 50 DG 2022-06-07 1818 N7KSI CN86MN KD7UO CN87XJ

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

73,

Paul Bourque, N1SFE

Contest Program Manager

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n4af commented 2 years ago

RR73,hSent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Tom Schaefer @.> Date: 5/16/22 10:17 (GMT-05:00) To: n4af/TR4W @.> Cc: Howie Hoyt @.>, State change @.> Subject: Re: [n4af/TR4W] ARRL-DIGI missing Grid header (Issue #599)

I am going to email Paul if you are ok. I do not believe we get the 6 digit grid from WSJT-X so I do not know how we could ever log that.

Tom

On May 16, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

The ARRL Log submission page uses some of the information provided in the upload questionnaire to determine entry category, which is independent of the information in the Cabrillo header. Categories for the most part are selected on the uploader webpage.

The CONTEST: header as ARRL-DIGI is correct.

LOCATION: should be the ARRL/RAC Section (or DX for Non US/Canadian stations). If a grid is in this field upon upload, it is replaced with the section or DX that is provided by the participant in the upload questionnaire page.

However, If a grid location is to be entered the header, it should be in the GRID-LOCATOR: field, not LOCATION: This often

The station’s sent 6 digit grid should be included in each QSO line, which would be used for scoring:

QSO: 50 DG 2022-06-07 1818 N7KSI CN86MN KD7UO CN87XJ

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

73,

Paul Bourque, N1SFE

Contest Program Manager

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ny4i commented 2 years ago

4 digit grids it is.

From Paul N1SFE,

Good morning,

You are correct, the exchange for the contest is a FOUR digit grid. I was thinking about the other distance scored events ARRL has, where we use 6 digit grids. My example was taken from a 222 and Up log, which uses 6 digit grids. In the ARRL Log uploader page, we request a 6 digit grid for the club competition scoring, but in the log entries themselves, we require four digit grids in the Digital Contest.

Let me know if there’s anything else you need clarification on.

73, Paul Bourque, N1SFE Contest Program Manager

On May 16, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Thomas Schaefer @.***> wrote:

This is lifted directly from the rules so my guess is Paul was operating from memory.

Exchange: Send 4-digit Maidenhead grid-square locator (www.arrl.org/grid-squares http://www.arrl.org/grid-squares).

This is a typical FT8 contest contact:

CQing Station: CQ TEST N1SFE FN31

Answering Station: N1SFE W9SZ EN50

CQer: W9SZ N1SFE R FN31

Answer: N1SFE W9SZ RR73 CQer: W9SZ N1SFE 73 (or any appropriate acknowledge message)

On May 16, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Howie Hoyt @. @.>> wrote:

The ARRL Log submission page uses some of the information provided in the upload questionnaire to determine entry category, which is independent of the information in the Cabrillo header. Categories for the most part are selected on the uploader webpage.

The CONTEST: header as ARRL-DIGI is correct.

LOCATION: should be the ARRL/RAC Section (or DX for Non US/Canadian stations). If a grid is in this field upon upload, it is replaced with the section or DX that is provided by the participant in the upload questionnaire page.

However, If a grid location is to be entered the header, it should be in the GRID-LOCATOR: field, not LOCATION: This often

The station’s sent 6 digit grid should be included in each QSO line, which would be used for scoring:

QSO: 50 DG 2022-06-07 1818 N7KSI CN86MN KD7UO CN87XJ

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

73,

Paul Bourque, N1SFE

Contest Program Manager

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ny4i commented 1 year ago

This is lifted directly from the rules so my guess is Paul was operating from memory.

Exchange: Send 4-digit Maidenhead grid-square locator (www.arrl.org/grid-squares).

This is a typical FT8 contest contact:

CQing Station: CQ TEST N1SFE FN31

Answering Station: N1SFE W9SZ EN50

CQer: W9SZ N1SFE R FN31

Answer: N1SFE W9SZ RR73 CQer: W9SZ N1SFE 73 (or any appropriate acknowledge message)

On May 16, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Howie Hoyt @.***> wrote:

The ARRL Log submission page uses some of the information provided in the upload questionnaire to determine entry category, which is independent of the information in the Cabrillo header. Categories for the most part are selected on the uploader webpage.

The CONTEST: header as ARRL-DIGI is correct.

LOCATION: should be the ARRL/RAC Section (or DX for Non US/Canadian stations). If a grid is in this field upon upload, it is replaced with the section or DX that is provided by the participant in the upload questionnaire page.

However, If a grid location is to be entered the header, it should be in the GRID-LOCATOR: field, not LOCATION: This often

The station’s sent 6 digit grid should be included in each QSO line, which would be used for scoring:

QSO: 50 DG 2022-06-07 1818 N7KSI CN86MN KD7UO CN87XJ

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

73,

Paul Bourque, N1SFE

Contest Program Manager

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