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Move technical discussion to other forum #7

Open ilblackdragon opened 4 years ago

ilblackdragon commented 4 years ago

As NEAR starts evolving into community governed network starting with this more technical questions around Phase 2, I think it's important to figure out an accessible medium.

I find discussions in github in PRs somewhat limiting (and especially they are limiting for non developers, who are usually don't have a github account). And discussions in Telegram ends up been non permanent and hard to make decisions.

There are two options to move:

Commonwealth has benefit of the ability to integrate to the chain itself, but it seemed like Discourse has plugins for various stuff as well.

Feel free to react with 👍 for Discourse, 💯 or 🎉 for Commonwealth, 🔢 or 🚀 to stay on Github.

gaia commented 4 years ago

hmmm these are the only available reactions to me image

evgenykuzyakov commented 4 years ago

🔢

kucharskim commented 4 years ago

I'm like @gaia, only few icons to chose from no 1234 icon nor 100. I know only github and email, would need to look into those other tools.

ilblackdragon commented 4 years ago

@gaia @kucharskim updated with alternatives. Github is a bit weird what it shows I guess when typing.

mattlockyer commented 4 years ago

:+1: Discourse is well known for being great for long form discussion. :rocket: GH issues are also ok, but I feel somewhat less inclusive of "non-developers".

gaia commented 4 years ago

so we are supposed to make a new comment to include our reply? ilya, do you have those icons in the drop down menu?

mattlockyer commented 4 years ago

I'm confused. and I like GH better than Discord.

I believe we're debating Discourse (forums) not Discord.

NAKsir-melody commented 4 years ago

Discourse LGTM.

Mike-LunaNova commented 4 years ago

Thank you for initiating this useful discussion.

To stay focused on your precise options:

The Github feature of being able to quote seems powerful whereas, as far as I can tell Commonwealth seems to be able to index the discussions which is useful. The ability for Commonwealth to integrate to the chain itself,could be very powerful for debates and voting at some point. That is not to say that Discourse plugins may not be able to fulfill this requirement.

I think the most important aspect is the participation we as a community have and the discipline we adopt in using whichever forum. It may be appropriate to have forum moderator(s). However I see that Discourse seem to offer an automatic trust system which may obviate this.

A number have, understandably, confused discourse with discord. This is an option for aspects of community communication, but from experience seems to be very chat-focused meaning that any debate can be interrupted and indeed at times hard to find.

In conclusion both seem suitable to me. However the difficulty even in this thread for people to be able to reliably convey their preference must be addressed.

A final thought - the question must relate to ANY conversation being held by the community about aspects of NEAR and as such is not just limited to technical aspects.

auxelarry commented 4 years ago

Discourse

insideNIMA commented 4 years ago

Discord and Discourse can co-exists. It's best to move long form valuable conversations to Discourse/forum.

Both are also compatible with sourcecred.io 🚀

crasskitty commented 4 years ago

I would like to point out that some community members are already on portal.near.org which is running on Tribe: