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Research and Buy IKEA Standing Desk? #26

Open nelsonic opened 4 years ago

nelsonic commented 4 years ago

Lately I have been suffering from too much sitting down.
I spend around 12 hours at my desk each day and it's been causing me pain. I won't bore you with details, but if you're interested, read: startstanding.org/sitting-back-pain I've had a make shift standing desk in the past and I've benefitted from the experience. TL;DR: I'm buying a standing desk which I plan to use while I am writing code.

@home we are going to need to buy/make 20+ desks for the main co-working room. I fully intend to design these from scratch and make them on our laser cutter and Open Source it. We also need a couple of desks for the Studio; I intend to put the IKEA sit/stand desk in the studio.

A search for the keywords "standing desk" on IKEA (UK) returns the following top results: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/search/products/?q=standing%20desk

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SKARSTA Desk sit/stand, white, 120x70 cm https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/skarsta-desk-sit-stand-white-s59324818/ image

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It uses a hand crank to adjust height: image

I think if this was my only desk, using a hand crank would get old very quickly! But since I'm lucky enough to have two desks I expect to leave the standing desk in a permanent standing position.

There is actually nothing "New" about the SKARSTA Desk. This review is from 2015:

ikea-skarsta-review https://youtu.be/62hi92hMjjU ... Review after two weeks of use: https://youtu.be/sV1R4If_KhY

Scott Stack added a couple of motors, a PSU and some basic switches to his SKARSTA to motorise it: image https://youtu.be/pKyYEM-dN2o

So in addition to having a relatively cheap standing desk option, we could also produce a much better video on how to retrofit/mod/ikeahack it with a motor and some electronics. 💡

It costs €199 in PT which (for once) is cheaper than the UK!! (€199 = £173 at the time of writing) https://www.ikea.com/pt/pt/p/skarsta-secretaria-sentado-em-pe-branco-s59324818/

ikea-skarsta-pt-price

Includes free shipping/delivery. 😮

Thinking of placing the order today. @iteles any thoughts/objections to this?

nelsonic commented 4 years ago

Motorising instructions: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/23/motorizing-an-ikea-skarsta-table

iteles commented 4 years ago

I've never seen any Ikea products with free delivery but absolutely, we need to get started on this soon so let's get it done 😊 Please come speak to me and we'll get you set up with MB Way (so you can make purchases with the right bank cards online)!

nelsonic commented 4 years ago

@iteles Sounds good. Thanks! 👍

iteles commented 4 years ago

The final price would be this, including delivery (because the desk is too big for the free delivery options): image

nelsonic commented 4 years ago

🤦‍♂

Thanks for checking the checkout price. 👍 Annoying that the desk is no longer in stock in Braga ... 😞

nelsonic commented 4 years ago

@iteles as much as it pains me to "over-spend" on this, 💸 I feel that the health benefits of a standing desk definitely outweigh the cost. 🤔

My intention with this repo is to create my own standing desk design from scratch. 👷 I could just bite the bullet and design/make a prototype now ... 💭

iteles commented 4 years ago

I would suggest that there are other way higher priorities for your time this week than making the standing desk prototype and if you give me the go-ahead, I'll get it bought and delivered for Monday/Tuesday

iteles commented 4 years ago

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nelsonic commented 4 years ago

@iteles agreed. Please place the order. thanks. 👍

nelsonic commented 4 years ago

I've been using the IKEA SKARSTA sit/stand Desk for 3 months and it's been good. 👍

Two things I've noted

  1. The 120 x 70 cm desk area is generous for a single computer setup, but not for multi-PC.
  2. The desk has zero integrated cable management or under-desk storage so everything is on top of my desk and it can feel cluttered!

I often have 3 PCs on my desk (Macbook Pro, Windows Laptop and Linux Laptop) for testing things and it can feel cluttered. Yes, I know about VMWare/Parallels/VirtualBox and running different OSes in virtualised containers I have done that before and it's "ok" ... I just prefer running my systems on native hardware and I have the hardware on-hand. I'm lucky that I've been able to get jobs in the past that mean I can afford to have 3 PCs. Also, the Windows PC is a refurbished Lenovo x230 laptop that cost $250 on eBay and the Linux laptop was $130, so I don't feel like I'm being extravagant by having multiple machines. After all, I use these computers to make money and

I wish I had spent the extra money to buy the L-shaped desk so that I could have more working space while I have multiple machines + paper notebook, etc. on the desk ... https://www.ikea.com/pt/en/p/bekant-left-hand-corner-table-top-white-stained-oak-veneer-40366276/ image

But I'm not going to spend €119 (+€35 for delivery!) for the L-shaped table top now because it would make the desk €350 which I feel is extortionate for a desk! (even if I'm lucky enough to be able to afford it ... it's still insane!)

So I'm going to have to come up with a "hack" to (a) get more desk/storage space and (b) integrate cable management so it doesn't feel so cluttered

nelsonic commented 3 years ago

RODULF desk is new this year: https://www.ikea.com/pt/en/p/rodulf-desk-sit-stand-grey-white-s99326170/ image

nelsonic commented 3 years ago

Just the RODULF structure is €229: https://www.ikea.com/pt/pt/p/rodulf-estrut-inf-sentado-de-pe-p-tampo-branco-60464290/ image

However, suuuuper annoyingly, the 140x80cm desk dimensions mean that there's only one option for desk!! https://www.ikea.com/pt/en/search/products/?q=140x80 image

Not a fan of a dark grey desk ... 💭 Would much prefer white or wood. 🪵

nelsonic commented 1 year ago

Ouch ... 20% inflation Price Hike! 🤦‍♂️ Wish I'd got it when it was first announced. 🙄 image

Similar price gouge on the underframe / structure: https://www.ikea.com/pt/en/p/rodulf-underframe-sit-stand-f-table-top-white-60464290/ image

Currently in the whole country, there's only 1 for sale on OLX: https://www.olx.pt/d/ads/q-ikea-RODULF/ image

https://www.olx.pt/d/anuncio/estrutura-rodulf-ikea-IDHc5TD.html image

Braga of all places! image

Inquiry sent to seller. ✉️ ⏳ 🤞 (100% getting it if still available)

Just the Table top is 80: https://www.ikea.com/pt/en/p/rodulf-table-top-grey-50464304/ image

So there's no "penalty" for buying the frame and top separately.

I would probably get the Bamboo table top instead of this grey [cheap-looking/feeling] one: https://www.ikea.com/pt/en/p/anfallare-table-top-bamboo-00465141/ image

Yes, the dept is less at 65cm but that's actually a good thing for space-saving. 💭

nelsonic commented 1 year ago

I've sent the seller of the [second-hand] RODULF frame https://github.com/nelsonic/standing-desk/issues/26#issuecomment-1336027726 3 messages. Offering to pay cash and collect it at his convenience:

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No answer so far. ⏳

I'm obvs a fan of not wasting natural resources on stuff if possible, but really not holding my breath on this ... 🤷‍♂️