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在中国Google自动跳转 / Google Auto Jump in China #158

Open huangshaomingS001 opened 1 year ago

huangshaomingS001 commented 1 year ago

Google.com强制跳转Google.cn/m

Google.com forces a jump to Google.cn/m

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wkrp commented 1 year ago

Can you say more about what this means?

Is it a recent change? Before the redirect to google.cn/m started happening, what happened when you tried to access google.com?

Can you tell us what ISP this is on? I see a "VPN" badge in the toolbar; are you already using some circumvention system?

From what I know, google.com is usually blocked in China by DNS injection, or by TCP reset injection, or by TCP timeout. Recent examples from OONI: TCP timeout, DNS injection. Are you saying that for you, google.com was not blocked by the GFW, but the Google server at google.com caused a redirect to google.cn/m?

huangshaomingS001 commented 1 year ago

你能详细说说这意味着什么吗?

是最近的变化吗?在重定向google.cn/m 开始开发之前,当您尝试访问google.com时发生了什么?

你能告诉我们这是在哪个 ISP 上吗?我在工具栏中看到一个“VPN”徽章;你已经在使用一些规避系统了吗?

据我所知,google.com在中国经常被DNS注册、TCP重新注册或TCP超时阻止。OONI最近的例子:TCP超时DNS注册。 ,但 google.com 的谷歌服务器导向致重定向 google.cn/m?

一开始尝试访问google.com时跳转HK,最近安卓手机端慢慢开始直接跳转Google.cn/m了有时候会直接超时 目前中国不挂规避系统是无法访问的,挂了私人代理会跳转CN/M,其他代理部分会跳转到CN/M部分代理访问Google.com则正常。目前来看我的推测可能是中国防火墙在重点IP数据包后面增加了一个重定向,或者是防火墙已经能够轻微探测数据包 【我的谷歌翻译貌似也开始被感染了】


At first try to visit google.com when jumping HK, recently the Android phone side slowly began to jump directly to Google.cn/m sometimes will directly timeout At present, China does not hang circumvention system is unable to access, hanging a private agent will jump CN/M, other agents will jump to CN/M part of the agent to access Google.com is normal. My speculation so far is that the Chinese firewall may have added a redirect after the key IP packet, or the firewall has been able to slightly detect the packet [My Google Translate seems to be infected too]

Keritial commented 1 year ago

试试看 https://www.google.com/ncrncr 指的是 no country redirect

Try https://www.google.com/ncr ? ncr stands for no country redirect.

Keritial commented 1 year ago

我感觉不像是 中国防火墙在重点IP数据包后面增加了一个重定向 ,而是 Google 认为你在中国,然后把你送到了 google.cn ,然而国内的地址并不提供服务。与 一开始尝试访问google.com时跳转HK 说的情况类似,只不过地区换了。

I don't feel like "the Chinese firewall may have added a redirect after the key IP packet", but rather that Google thinks you're in China and sends you to google.cn, yet the domestic address isn't served. It's similar to "At first try to visit google.com when jumping HK" when trying to access google.com at first, only the region is changed.

martin5lee98 commented 1 year ago

This is interesting. As we know google.com is supposed to redirect to google.com.hk in China. According to your description, this is happening under 2 conditions: you are using a IP address that makes Google assume you are from China; and that you are using Chrome on Android.

Can you answer the following questions:

  1. When did you start to see this change?
  2. Have you tried other browsers on Android, such as Firefox?
  3. Have you tried cleaning cookies and cache in Chrome? Does it continue to happen?
  4. Are you entering google.com in the Chrome address bar, or are you using the search function in Chrome? Is it google.com or www.google.com?
huangshaomingS001 commented 1 year ago

这是有趣的。正如我们所知,google.com 应该重定向到中国的 google.com.hk。根据您的描述,这是在两种情况下发生的:您使用的 IP 地址让 Google 认为您来自中国;并且您在 Android 上使用 Chrome。

你能回答以下问题吗:

  1. 你什么时候开始看到这种变化的?
  2. 您是否尝试过 Android 上的其他浏览器,例如 Firefox?
  3. 您是否尝试过清理 Chrome 中的 cookie 和缓存?它会继续发生吗?
  4. 您是在 Chrome 地址栏中输入 google.com,还是在使用 Chrome 中的搜索功能?是 google.com 还是www.google.com

1最近没有发生,目前症状好像消失了 2其他浏览器也进行尝试都会跳转CN/M 3恩没有清理过 4google.com


  1. Not recently, the symptoms seem to have disappeared
  2. Other browsers also try will jump CN/M
  3. Not cleaned up
  4. google.com
zzy2008 commented 1 year ago

我遇到过同样的问题,它只是有时会发生。

I've had the same problem, it just happens sometimes.

suykjay commented 1 year ago

我遇到过同样的问题,它只是有时会发生。

I've had the same problem, it just happens sometimes.

访问一次 google.com/ncr 后就不会再跳转至.hk或者.cn,不过图片搜索仍然会跳转。

After visiting google.com/ncr once, you will not be redirected to .hk or .cn, but image search will still be redirected.

BladPit commented 1 year ago

我遇到过同样的问题,它只是有时会发生。 I've had the same problem, it just happens sometimes.

访问一次 google.com/ncr 后就不会再跳转至.hk或者.cn,不过图片搜索仍然会跳转。

After visiting google.com/ncr once, you will not be redirected to .hk or .cn, but image search will still be redirected.

我刚才也在Android手机上遇到这个问题,挂了clash后用了edge浏览器和系统自带浏览器,使用google.com和www.google.com都会跳转Google.cn/m,导致无法使用。但是用google.com.hk就正常能打开。 另外我试了PC上,是正常可以访问的,好像问题只在Android手机上才会发生。使用上面提到的/ncr后缀后,问题就消失了,然后直接用google.com也能正常访问了

不知道是Google自动跳转cn导致的(照理说已经走了国外的节点,不应该判断我的地址为大陆),还是墙的重定向导致的,好像都不太合理

I just encountered this problem on my Android phone, after hanging the clash, I used the edge browser and the system's own browser, using google.com and www.google.com will jump to Google.cn/m, so it can not be used. But with google.com.hk, it can open normally. Also I tried on PC, it is normally accessible, it seems that the problem only happens on Android phones. After using the above mentioned /ncr suffix, the problem disappeared, and then directly using google.com can also be accessed normally

I don't know if it is caused by Google automatically jumping cn (as a rule, it has already gone to foreign nodes, should not judge my address for the mainland), or the redirection of the wall, it seems not too reasonable

Keritial commented 1 year ago

我遇到过同样的问题,它只是有时会发生。 I've had the same problem, it just happens sometimes.

访问一次 google.com/ncr 后就不会再跳转至.hk或者.cn,不过图片搜索仍然会跳转。 After visiting google.com/ncr once, you will not be redirected to .hk or .cn, but image search will still be redirected.

我刚才也在Android手机上遇到这个问题,挂了clash后用了edge浏览器和系统自带浏览器,使用google.com和www.google.com都会跳转Google.cn/m,导致无法使用。但是用google.com.hk就正常能打开。 另外我试了PC上,是正常可以访问的,好像问题只在Android手机上才会发生。使用上面提到的/ncr后缀后,问题就消失了,然后直接用google.com也能正常访问了

不知道是Google自动跳转cn导致的(照理说已经走了国外的节点,不应该判断我的地址为大陆),还是墙的重定向导致的,好像都不太合理

Google 不止能通过 IP 来确认位置。曾经 Google 搜索推测我的位置是中国广东省(虽然我并不在这个地方),Google 账号页面我的设备位置曾经也写过中国:

F9C59CAB-16F1-4C62-9A2A-AA7881A1E890

总不可能是我能直连 Google 吧?

不大可能(或者说就是不可能)是 GFW 跳转的。如果真是 GFW 的话,会直接阻断。


Google can not only confirm the location by IP. Once Google search presumed my location to be Guangdong Province, China (although I am not in this place), and the Google account page for my device location once said China:

It can't be that I can connect directly to Google, can it?

It's unlikely (or just impossible) that it's a GFW jump. If it was a GFW, it would be blocked directly.

suykjay commented 1 year ago

我遇到过同样的问题,它只是有时会发生。 I've had the same problem, it just happens sometimes.

访问一次 google.com/ncr 后就不会再跳转至.hk或者.cn,不过图片搜索仍然会跳转。 After visiting google.com/ncr once, you will not be redirected to .hk or .cn, but image search will still be redirected.

我刚才也在Android手机上遇到这个问题,挂了clash后用了edge浏览器和系统自带浏览器,使用google.com和www.google.com都会跳转Google.cn/m,导致无法使用。但是用google.com.hk就正常能打开。 另外我试了PC上,是正常可以访问的,好像问题只在Android手机上才会发生。使用上面提到的/ncr后缀后,问题就消失了,然后直接用google.com也能正常访问了 不知道是Google自动跳转cn导致的(照理说已经走了国外的节点,不应该判断我的地址为大陆),还是墙的重定向导致的,好像都不太合理

Google 不止能通过 IP 来确认位置。曾经 Google 搜索推测我的位置是中国广东省(虽然我并不在这个地方),Google 账号页面我的设备位置曾经也写过中国:

F9C59CAB-16F1-4C62-9A2A-AA7881A1E890

总不可能是我能直连 Google 吧?

不大可能(或者说就是不可能)是 GFW 跳转的。如果真是 GFW 的话,会直接阻断。

我通过webarchive观察了一下,google.cn/m这个域名,在2022年8月的时候还在正常跳转至.hk/m,但是在2022年11月,就出现了404错误,所以这应该是因为谷歌中国年久失修而出现的问题。 谷歌ip定位到中国这个问题,一直都有,挺玄学的。一般只和你使用的代理服务有关系。或者真的是直连(phantomsocks)。

I observed through webarchive, google.cn/m the domain, in August 2022 when it was still jumping normally to .hk/m, but in November 2022, there was a 404 error, so this should be because Google China years and years and years of problems. Google ip locate to China this problem, there has always been, quite metaphysical. Usually only related to the proxy service you use. Or really a direct connection (phantomsocks).

marisafreeman commented 1 year ago

我测试过了,这是代理问题,挂clash和v2ray之类的就不会出现了,我挂普通的vpn就会跳转到google.cn/m 或者google.com.hk 记住不要挂香港的节点,否则也会出现同样的问题

I've tested it, it's a proxy problem, it doesn't happen if you use clash or v2ray or something like that, but if I use a normal vpn, it'll redirect me to google.cn/m or google.com.hk. Remember, don't use a Hong Kong node, or you'll get the same problem.

whuwangyong commented 7 months ago

试试看 https://www.google.com/ncrncr 指的是 no country redirect

Try https://www.google.com/ncr ? ncr stands for no country redirect.

浏览器确实可以这么做,但是google play app依然无法使用。奇怪的是相册和YouTube不受影响

The browser does do this, but the google play app still doesn't work. Oddly enough albums and YouTube are not affected!

rammiah commented 6 months ago

试试看 https://www.google.com/ncrncr 指的是 no country redirectTry https://www.google.com/ncr ? ncr stands for no country redirect.

浏览器确实可以这么做,但是google play app依然无法使用。奇怪的是相册和YouTube不受影响

The browser does do this, but the google play app still doesn't work. Oddly enough albums and YouTube are not affected!

老问题了,把googleapis.cn也加到代理名单里,还有两个cdn域名

Old problem, add googleapis.cn to the proxy list, as well as two cdn domains

  - DOMAIN-SUFFIX,googleapis.cn,play-store
  - DOMAIN-SUFFIX,xn--ngstr-lra8j.com,play-store
  - DOMAIN-SUFFIX,xn--ngstr-cn-8za9o.com,play-store
freeqd commented 3 weeks ago

还有其他解决方案吗?现在要gemini。必须不能跳转到hk,否则gemini拒绝服务

Is there any other solution? Now to gemini. Must not jump to hk , otherwise gemini denies service