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[Paladin] Vindication (Procs) #2247

Open netherspite opened 6 years ago

netherspite commented 6 years ago

Issue by CCjudgement
Wednesday Feb 03, 2016 at 23:14 GMT
Originally opened as https://github.com/ccshiro/cc-buglist/issues/2247


This bug report has already been confirmed however it was never assigned to anyone and i fear it was overlooked (its vital to pally PVE) https://github.com/ccshiro/cc-buglist/issues/479

@ccshiroccshiro added bug and removed needs research labels on May 30, 2015

@ccshiroccshiro closed this on May 30, 2015

On retail TBC all raiding ret paladins would spec 1/3 into vindication because although most bosses were immune, the immune "hit" of vindication (where the text immune would pop up) would proc Judgement of Wisdom mana restoration chance on hit.

it would be treated as an attack, this would mean any abilities and items which are based on attacks such as Seal of Command, Seal of Righteousness, Hand of Justice and Romulo's Poison Vial should also proc off vindication which are controlled by the 0.5 second internal cd which each of these possess to ensure they dont proc off white swings which are causing vindication to occur and in turn may proc these effects as a of the swing.

Trying to find as much evidence as i can that the trigger is a physical attack and the effect creates a magic effect. Trigger(Physical): http://db.valkyrie-wow.org/?spell=26021 http://wotlk.openwow.com/?spell=26016 http://www.wowhead.com/spell=26016/vindication

Effect(Magic): http://db.valkyrie-wow.org/?spell=26018 http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=26017 http://www.wowhead.com/spell=26017/vindication

Trying to find as much evidence as i can that Vindication procced on hit effects.

Discussion about Vindication proccing JoW/JoL: http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=18459/vindication

Discussion about Vindication proccing JoW/JoL: http://forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-381210.html

Discussion about Vindication proccing JoW/JoL: http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forums.wowmania.fr/index.php%3Fpage%3DThread%26threadID%3D19155&prev=search

Discussion about Vindication proccing JoW/JoL: http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.rage-inside.fr/2013/06/retribution-paladin-theorycrafting.html&prev=search

Discussion about Vindication proccing JoW/JoL: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/621811-Vindication-talent-on-bosses

Paladin Raiding with Vindication (watch how many JoW procs occur and how fast (Icon on SCT)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyooXkH6mT8

https://github.com/ccshiro/cc-buglist/issues/479

netherspite commented 6 years ago

Comment by Shanghi
Saturday Feb 06, 2016 at 01:15 GMT


Normally when something is marked as a bug and closed then it was fixed. I guess there's always the chance something went wrong or it got broken again though. Would you be able to test it? I would but I'm just a mere druid that avoids all the heroic invitations!

netherspite commented 6 years ago

Comment by loganbunny
Monday Feb 08, 2016 at 04:49 GMT


Would like to touch back on this since submitting it, as Vindication stated, it's pretty crucial for ret PvE. Even with it there are fights where it's very possible to go OOM, and even on retail I often would go OOM, but the extra judgement of wisdom procs from Vindication would still go a long way.

(Also in retail Void Reaver was susceptible to Vindication for a while but Blizzard patched it after a bit.)

netherspite commented 6 years ago

Comment by loganbunny
Monday Feb 08, 2016 at 04:52 GMT


Also if it was fixed, sorry for the spam. ^^ Good work Shiro&Nim&Team keep it up and keep grinding out those bugs!