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@jove Thanks Cencheng. Actually we might need one or two real data example. With C.elegans data, both Fosdick/MNT pvalues are so low :(
seems like a good start to me!
for dMRI data, we could test independence of topology with vertex 3d location?
@jovo you mean you have relational dMRI data? Due to the context I assume in a paper, undirected and unweighted network (graph) would be most preferable.
i don't know what "relational dMRI data" means. i have undirected graphs. we can unweight them if you want.
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@jovo https://github.com/jovo you mean you have relational dMRI data? Due to the context I assume in a paper, undirected and unweighted network (graph) would be most preferable.
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for theoretical purpose and simulations, yes we should use undirected / unweighted graph;
but in real data we do not have to limit us to the assumptions :-)
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@jovo great! Can you please send me a link to such dMRI with relevant attributes?
@gkiar can tell you the best one to start with.
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@jovo https://github.com/jovo great! Can you please send me a link to such dMRI with relevant attributes?
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We're generally recommending the following voxelwise graphs: http://openconnecto.me/data/public/MR/m2g_v1_1_1/KKI2009/derivatives/bg/
Each node has an attribute called "spatial_id" which is a Morton Z-order representation of their physical coordinate in space. Depending on what language you're using, we've written a couple tools to help you turn these into (X,Y,Z) triples. These scripts can be found here (Python), and here (R).
@gkiar Thanks, I will take a look at it.
thanks!
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We're generally recommending the following voxelwise graphs: http://openconnecto.me/data/public/MR/m2g_v1_1_1/KKI2009/derivatives/bg/
Each node has an attribute called "spatial_id" which is a Morton Z-order representation of their physical coordinate in space. Depending on what language you're using, we've written a couple tools to help you turn these into (X,Y,Z) triples. These scripts can be found here (Python https://github.com/neurodata/ndgrutedb/blob/master/MR-OCP/mrcap/zindex.pyx#L86), and here (R https://github.com/neurodata/ndmg/blob/master/analysis/MortonXYZ.R).
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@jove @gkiar Triple (x,y,z) location is way too much correlated with network topology! No matter what scale and what statistics I use we get the least p-value.
that's great!
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Very cool!
Youjin,
that is great for jovo and greg, probably because so their tools did the right thing :-)
I have quite a number of real networks plus labels, that I used to try classifications on. I can send them for you to try different tests.
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Very cool!
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Youjin,
I tried all graph data I have, by testing between: Euclidean distance of the adjacency matrix vs distance of the labels (+1 to off-diagonal distances).
MGC equals the global correlation for all of them, which yields very significant p-values. So it may be too easy again...But I didn't try FH test, so maybe it worth a try.
Attached graph data are all in matlab format, but you can use the matlab.R package to get the data, or just copy paste the adjacency and the label from Matlab.
Best, Cencheng
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Cencheng Shen cshen6@jhu.edu wrote:
Youjin,
that is great for jovo and greg, probably because so their tools did the right thing :-)
I have quite a number of real networks plus labels, that I used to try classifications on. I can send them for you to try different tests.
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Very cool!
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probably all done except last adjacency one
@jovo above is what I think for the numerical section, where we shall systematically illustrate our advantage over Fosick-H test for network dependency. What do you think? Anything to add?